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A fact from Ichikawa Danjūrō I appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 4 January 2007. The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that Ichikawa Danjūrō I (pictured) was killed onstage by a fellow Kabuki actor?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2007/January.

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...that the United Teachers of New Orleans was the first desegregated teachers' union in Louisiana, and the first to win a collective bargaining agreement in the state without the protection of a state employee collective bargaining law? -- (selfnom) Tim1965 03:52, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I realize I suggest a great many kabuki articles, and this one has a great many redlinks. Nevertheless, in terms of short, pithy, interesting facts, this guy's got them up the wazoo. He was the pioneer of the aragoto style which has come to stereotypically represent all of kabuki; he wrote several of the most popular and famous plays of all time and starred in the premieres; he was the first kabuki actor to take a haiku-name (haimyō), and the first to portray Fudō onstage. Sorry for taking up so much space. Please feel free to let me know, and remove all of this if it's not appropriate. LordAmeth 01:35, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - It's a great fact, if only more actors....! I thought your not saying if it was an accident was a cunning ploy to send people rushing to the article to find out - so I did, but you don't say. Is the answer known? Johnbod 02:47, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry. I missed your question. The answer to what? LordAmeth 20:11, 3 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

the answer to whether it was an accidental killing. Where are these guys when you need them? like on the set of Clerks II.Gabenowicki 06:04, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Murdered

Why? Rmhermen 02:02, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I was also a bit baffled by the abrupt conclusion. Venicemenace 03:13, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Stating in a single sentence that the subject of an article was killed, and then saying nothing more on the subject is bad. Saying it on the front page is, as John Cleese might say, far too silly. JDS2005 04:23, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that, guys. My source contains no more information about why he was killed. Here's the quote from the source: "He is stabbed the 19th of this month by the actor Ikushima Hanroku on the stage of the Ichimuraza and dies a violent death." LordAmeth 08:35, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Damn. Sounds like we need to find a second source. JDS2005 09:38, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

At the very least that source deserves a citation (unless it's the "Japan Encyclopedia" already there in which case the ambiguous tense is strange). Collabi 10:15, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

You're right; I hadn't noticed that. "Stabbed... dies..." is strange tense usage. Well, the Japan Encylopedia lists very little about him; I used that only to confirm his dates and his haimyo. I know of another book or two I can take a look at, but I'm not planning to go to the library until next week sometime... LordAmeth 13:13, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

comments, questions, suggestions

references? in-line sources? any source(s) other than Japan Encyclopedia? --Mdukas (talk) 13:57, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]