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to illustrate an article discussing the book in question

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. It is therefore fair use if it is only used on Hindu Temples - What Happened to Them. That was how the image was used. Therefore all edits spuriously tagging this page and the relevant book page are vandalism.Baka man 16:45, 3 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2C0F:F930:0:3:0:0:0:221 (talk) 16:53, 25 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Claim vs. Assert

This page uses the word "claim" for the authors' assertions. Claims are normally made upon something of value, e.g. land or mineral rights; using the word insinuates that the authors stand to gain something from that assertion. A word like "state" or "assert" would be less pejorative and judgmental, in keeping with the Wikipedia's standards. Sooku (talk) 07:54, 5 April 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Temple list from Hindu Temples: What Happened to Them

This is the famous temple list of destroyed temples from the book Hindu Temples - What Happened to Them. Source is online at many websites [1] and many others.

It would be a useful addition to the article. If others agree, I will add to the article.

copywritten content removed

Sorry, this article should cover what reliable sources say about the book; it should in no way reproduce the content of the book. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 00:51, 26 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

References

Open (Indian magazine) ,ThePrint these are articles and the books by Ashok Pant and Maanoj Rakhit. These are independent and third party.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 09:17, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Please explain why are you adding them? what are they reference for? Are Opinion editorials, blogs, considered reliable sources? --Walrus Ji (talk) 09:20, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Open (Indian magazine) is a coverstory by Abhinav Prakash Singh who teaches economics at Shri Ram College of Commerce, University of Delhi.They cover the subject.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 09:35, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, here are the citations I found in this revision:

Alyssa Ayres; Philip Oldenburg (2005). India Briefing: Takeoff at Last?. M.E. Sharpe. pp. 127–. ISBN 978-0-7656-1593-0. Retrieved 29 December 2020.
"Where Did the Temples Go?". Abhinav Prakash Singh. Open (Indian magazine). 15 November 2019. Retrieved 29 December 2020.
"There are 3 claims to Ayodhya — law, memory & faith. It's not a simple Hindu-Muslim dispute". Hilal Ahmed. ThePrint. 14 October 2019. Retrieved 29 December 2020.
Ashok Pant (31 August 2012). The Truth of Babri Mosque. iUniverse. pp. 260–. ISBN 978-1-4759-4290-3. Retrieved 29 December 2020.
Alyssa Ayres; Philip Oldenburg (2005). India Briefing: Takeoff at Last?. M.E. Sharpe. pp. 127–. ISBN 978-0-7656-1593-0. Retrieved 29 December 2020.
Maanoj Rakhit (2003). Arise Arjun: Awaken my Hindu Nation. Maanoj Rakhit मानोज रखित. pp. 38–. ISBN 978-81-89746-01-8. Retrieved 29 December 2020.

1 is fine, but let us note that it is a passing mention. Doesn't contribute to WP:GNG.

2 is by an Economics lecturer, certainly not an authority for history. (I also suspect that he is a colleague of Meenakshi Jain, who herself apparently wrote a similar book.)

3 is also a passing mention.

4 is an WP:SPS, not a reliable source for anything.

5 is a repeat of 1.

6 looks like a Hindutva propaganda book.

So, nothing here contributes to WP:GNG. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 13:55, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Kautilya3 for the elaboration. I agree with this analysis of the source. In addition 2 and 3 are op-ed pieces.

Even Wikipedia is tagging Pharaoh of the Wizards' edit as "Tag: content sourced to vanity press". I think it is a moment of reckoning for Pharaoh of the Wizards. Perhaps a re-read of WP:RS is now due. Walrus Ji (talk) 14:20, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The concept of "op-ed" exists only for newspapers, because the newspapers disown responsibility for what is written in them. In magazines however, there is no such distinction. We have to use our own criteria for decidind whether the source is reliable or not for the subject matter at hand. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:33, 29 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Verify a reference

I wish to read Manini Chatterjee, review in the Calcutta Telegraph (ca. 30-1-1991). Koenraad Elst Who is a Hindu? (2001). How can a news article from the last few decades be dated approximately? Did Calcutta Telegraph use to be an irregular publication? TrangaBellam (talk) 07:38, 10 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]