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The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Helena Brewers/Comments (baseball), and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

The current Helena Brewers franchise is not the same one that left town after the 2000 season.

Should this page be more of a "Helena baseball" page, with info about the previous Helena Brewers/Gold Sox/Phillies, or one strictly about the franchise, with records and info about the Medicine Hat Blue Jays, who became the current Helena Brewers franchise? I'm more inclined to have it be the former - I think it's more important to have a city's baseball history on one page, regardless of whether it's one consistent franchise. Also, there is already a Medicine Hat Blue Jays page, albeit a rather sparse one.

Thoughts?

Last edited at 05:58, 23 December 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 14:20, 10 October 2016 (UTC)

I don't see why the content at Colorado Springs Pioneer League team can't be contained at Helena Brewers, and then we simply move the page to the new nickname when the move happens next year. The Helena Brewers are not so notable that it needs a separate page from the active team, and really it's just a continuation of the one franchise, no? – Muboshgu (talk) 16:10, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe. I think it hinges on whether it is treated as a continuation of the Helena franchise in a different city or whether it is treated as an altogether new team. Before the team announced its intentions to rename the Pioneer League team rather than continue as the Sky Sox, I was prepared to edit the Helena team article at the season's end to show it as defunct and the Sky Sox page to show it as having "moved" to the Pioneer League. Then again, you may be right that it should be merged as it is such a low-level team. NatureBoyMD (talk) 18:10, 14 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No, I oppose Granthew (talk) 20:36, 13 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
It's likely the two articles will remain separate. It is easy to say they are the same franchise, but as history has shown, that's not always the case. NostalgiaBuff97501 (talk) 11:38, 22 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Oppose, there is a whole list of former teams at Pioneer_League_(baseball)#Teams_by_city that are not merged with their successors. 162.208.171.22 (talk) 18:28, 14 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]