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[edit]I talked with the manager of the Arctic Circle in Preston Idaho a few years ago, and they claimed that fry sauce originated there in Preston, back in the 40s, not in Utah. One of their regular customers would mix the white sauce with ketchup for dipping fries in. The manager at that time asked the customer if it would be OK to premix it so others could enjoy it. He gave his permission, and soon Fry Sauce was available at all Arctic Circle drive ins. Many Utah and Idaho drive in joints followed suit.
That original Arctic Circle is gone now but one of the old menu boards still remains. It is on display on the East facing wall up high, in the play area of the current Arctic Circle. It is fun to see the low prices of the day.
I had always thought Fry Sauce was an American original, but someone from Columbia told me about Golf Sauce, which is the same thing as Fry Sauce, ketchup mixed with mayo. It predates Fry Sauce by several years. (1920's vs 1948)
Geezerhood (talk) 00:35, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
Hires not fast
[edit]I dispute the characterization of Hires Big H as a "fast food restaurant" on par with Burger King - i.e. diners are waited on at tables, rather than purchasing food at a counter. At any rate, I've just created an article for Hires if anyone wants to argue about it over there. :-) Ribonucleic 23:59, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
- There, changed it. Happy now? :-) — Frecklefoot | Talk 14:44, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
- Why yes, actually. In fact, I think I'll go have a Double Mountain H to celebrate! Ribonucleic 16:55, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
Just Utah?
[edit]While living in Spain, I found fry sauce to be extremely common, and I doubt it was introduced by Utahns. Most likely it's a European invention (since my English friends report its ubiquitous position (called "burger sauce;" even sold by Hellmann's in stores)) and popularized in Utah because of the many European immigrants there, as well as missionaries who developed a taste for it while serving in Europe.--Jhlynes 21:16, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
- The same sauce, under the name is:Kokkteilsósa (=Cocktail sauce) is very popular with fries in Iceland as well where it is the most common condiment with fries and sometimes fried fish, but I think this custom was imported, somehow, from the U.S. along with the general hamburger/fast food culture in the second half of the 20th Century. I also hear that the same sauce is popular with fries and such things as deep-fried cuttlefish in Portugal. --Akigka
- Eventually it would be nice to find more sources for this. "Fry Sauce" was apparently invented in Utah... or at least the name was. I would not be a bit surprised though if it wasn't an earlier British or European invention. On a side note, I thought Hellman's Burger Sauce was more of a Thousand Island style condiment, though Thousand Island is basically fry sauce with a few other ingredients.--Isotope23 17:08, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
- I live in Utah. I've had Artic Circle fry sauce, I know it exists, it's not my favorite. But smaller food chains (Barry's Drive-inn, Dairy Queen, ect) & people in my inner circle/that I'm aware of will often mix two parts miracle whip with ketchup. The distinction is small, but is the issue of "what was invented in Utah" perhaps complicated by what people actually eat when they say "fry sauce"? I don't really think mayo and ketchup is fry sauce. I also don't think "white sauce" is mayo/the same thing. White sauce is a different sauce entirely. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.28.34.72 (talk) 19:50, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
Popularity in Iceland
[edit]I removed the "citation needed" tag from that statement because while I didn't find a reliable source to cite this with I did find a number of non-reliable sources that basically all stated the same thing: Icelanders eat Kokkteilsósa on their fries and it is the same thing as fry sauce. I don't think that statement is particularly out there so I'm not sure why it needs to be cited, but if someone wants to dispute it then go ahead and add the tag back. I did add a tag to the statement that Icelanders claim they created the condiment in the 50's because I would like to see that sourced if at all possible.--Isotope23 17:01, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
spoils after a single day... ?
[edit]It is my understanding that using shelf stable mayo, fry sauce can easily last a day or more unrefrigerated and when stored in refrigerated conditions it will keep far longer. Does the comment about spoilage add anything to the article? (it seems exaggerated or possibly inaccurate; Earlier in the article is mentioned fry sauce available via mail order.) Utahgamer (talk) 17:46, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
- removed the questionable sentence... Utahgamer (talk) 12:52, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Commercial availability in UK
[edit]I would like a colleague to provide a cite backing up the claim that it is "commonly available in supermarkets", like a brand. I live in London, and never seen it. Irondome (talk) 23:07, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
- I'm removing the UK section entirely. I have never heard of this being described as "pink sauce", "burger sauce" is more like a mild salsa than a ketchup/mayo mix and in 40 years I have never seen this available in a British supermarket. — OwenBlacker (Talk) 16:41, 8 March 2016 (UTC)
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Anglophone Canadian use
[edit]Can anyone provide a source for the claimed usage of this sauce in Anglophone Canada? I've never seen this sauce in Canada. Meters (talk) 19:52, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
- This was added by an IP who has made virtually no other edits to Wikipedia, so I'm just going ot remove it as unsourced. Please provide a reliable source if restoring this. Meters (talk) 20:31, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
Worldwide
[edit]It says this sauce is "often served with French fries or tostones worldwide". Still I have never heard about it before I read this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Funk~svwiki (talk • contribs) 20:47, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
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I'm from Sweden and have never heard someone call this blend Rhode Island dressing.
[edit]I'm from Sweden and have never heard someone call this blend Rhode Island dressing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Very Fantastic Dude (talk • contribs) 19:54, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- @Very Fantastic Dude: The source was a blog. We rarely allow blogs as a source. I've removed it. Ian.thomson (talk) 20:03, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
I'm from Rhode Island and no one here calls it that either.
In one section this article states that fry sauce appeared in a 1900 cookbook from New Orleans. Then in another paragraph it says it was invented in 1920.
Both statements cannot be true. There are several conflicting statements about fry sauce's origin. Either this needs to be fact checked and the inaccuracies removed, or else those statements rewritten to properly reflect the uncertainty, rather than keeping multiple contradictory claims. 2600:6C67:6E7F:9D1D:10D2:A7CD:3922:23B0 (talk) 14:24, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
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