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There is confusion about the title of the Egyptian Super Cup, for example, in this official logo it appears 2020-21 for the Super Cup match that was played on 28 October 2022, while the current title refers to 2021-22. The next cup will be held on 5 May 2023, and it will be between Zamalek, the league champion in the 2021-22 season, and the Egyptian Cup winner between Al-Ahly and Pyramids. Additional source. What should we follow? Sakiv (talk) 20:03, 21 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is no date logo you linked? And i don't understand whats consusing here? That 2020/21 cup and league winners play the 2021/22 super cup? Maybe. Googling some images makes me think they changed the naming to single years. Al-Ahly won the 2022 super cup (not named 2021/22 super cup). -Koppapa (talk) 14:19, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Koppapa: Here, you can see ۲۱-۲۰ ie. 2020–21 not 2021–22 as the current title. In my view we should follow the official body and move all other cups,

2016-17, champions of 2016-17 and 2016-17 – 12 January 2018
2017-18, champions of 2017-18 and 2017-18 – 20 September 2019
2018-19, champions of 2018-19 and 2018-19 – 20 February 2020
2019-20, champions of 2019-20 and 2019-20 – 21 September 2021
2020-21, champions of 2020-21 and 2020-21 – 28 October 2022
2021-22, champions of 2021-22 and 2021-22 – 5 May 2023.--Sakiv (talk) 14:56, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Ideally it should be the name that was used that season, even if it was inconsistent. CRwikiCA talk 16:26, 23 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 14 September 2019

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The result of the move request was: Moved to season articles. There's a very tenuous, but still existing, consensus here that given Egypt's unique situation, the season proposal would be the best for these articles (closed by non-admin page mover) Sceptre (talk) 20:41, 15 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

– This is very a common issue that happens in many countries like Italy for example, but for Egypt it happens way too often that it probably reached a point where we should change the articles name. The 2018 Egyptian Super Cup for example (which was supposed to be played before the start of the 2018–19 Egyptian Premier League in July 2018) was postponed for more than 14 months and is now scheduled to be played in late September 2019. At this point, I believe that the name of all articles above should be changed but I'm not sure what name can we use exactly. The best solution that came to my head is to change the title from including years to including seasons; for example, the 2018 Egyptian Super Cup should be moved to 2018–19 Egyptian Super Cup so it'd mean that the match was played during that season and not the year included. I'm sure this is the best solution we have here (probably the only one) and won't cause any confusion to the visitors, but there will be one problem; moving the articles to the name I suggested will probably break WP:CONSISTENCY since I'm pretty sure there's no articles that uses seasons instead of years in the title. Maybe there's other better suggestions but I don't think so. Ben5218 (talk) 22:17, 14 September 2019 (UTC) --Relisting. — Amakuru (talk) 07:48, 23 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

What are the sources calling the game? Just the Egyptian Super Cup? The 2015 Super Cup should not be moved, see [1] Here I would just call it the 2019 Egyptian Super Cup to reflect the year it was played in, and the prose should state how the teams qualified. [2] SportingFlyer T·C 03:24, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@SportingFlyer: Following the 2015 edition, the tournament started being refereed to as simply the Egyptian Super Cup by the media and almost all Arabic and Egyptian sources. I nominated the 2015 article to be renamed too only to match the most recent editions (so the last 4-5 seasons would be named in the same way). Ben5218 (talk) 20:03, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment I would prefer if the articles were named for the year that the game was played on like for all the articles about Scottish League Cup finals, but this gets really confusing after 2015, so it might be better to just name it based on the season they were supposed to be played in, however the 2018 Egyptian Super Cup was played at the start of the 2019–20 season, so I'm just really confused. KingSkyLord (talk | contribs) 23:08, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@KingSkyLord: That's my point. That's why I believe the only decent solution is to move each article to the season they were supposed to be played in. Ben5218 (talk) 18:52, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - put them in year actually played, which I think would be 2015, 2017, 2018, and 2019? Giant Snowman 10:44, 18 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@GiantSnowman: That's correct; but again, the point of this moving proposal is to make it less confusing. Anyone who would search for the 2018 Egyptian Super Cup for example would be obviously looking for the match between the 2017–18 Egyptian Premier League winners and the 2017–18 Egypt Cup winners. However, that match will be played tomorrow, 20 September 2019, and the match played in 2018 was involving the winners of the 2016–17 editions. Ben5218 (talk) 18:52, 19 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

In that case why not use the season as a disambiguation rather than year of final? 2016–17 Egyptian Super Cup etc.? Giant Snowman 14:13, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think that this has been done before here on Wikipedia so this is an unlikely solution.. We don't have a dab page called 2018–19 FA Community Shield for example because in England the match is always played before the start of the new season. So in my opinion, using seasons instead of years in the articles titles would be a decent move only if we move the articles themselves and not by making it a dab pages. Ben5218 (talk) 19:31, 27 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

But the entire point is that it's different in Egypt, so a different name is suitable. Giant Snowman 10:30, 3 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes but still, a dab page wouldn't make any difference really since the current title won't change; it would still make confusion in other ways. For example, Al Ahly coach René Weiler, who won the most recent Egyptian Super Cup title played on 20 September 2019, joined the club in August 2019. In his honour section you would see that he won the 2018 Egyptian Super Cup despite actually joining the club in 2019. This will make the visitors feel confused, right? That's why I believe moving the current titles from years to season is the only decent move available for us. Ben5218 (talk) 19:03, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think you may have misread GiantSnowman's intention. I don't think they were suggesting the creation of a disambiguation page. They were suggesting using the year range of the season (e.g. 2016-17) in the title as the disambiguating text, i.e. the text that serves to distinguish between the articles on different Egyptian Super Cups. So ultimately I think they were agreeing with the scheme you mentioned in your nomination. (Unless I'm totally misunderstanding). Colin M (talk) 04:13, 9 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Huh? Seems like I didn't get what he mean back then. Ben5218 (talk) 19:04, 11 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Requested move 13 March 2023

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The result of the move request was: moved. Moved, to titles proposed by No such user (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 23:43, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

– The season should be 2020–21 not 2021–22 which will be played on May 5, 2023. Here are som references confirming this: ([3], [4], RSSSF). Sakiv (talk) 17:42, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Can we just get it to the year when the match was played, i.e. 2021–22 Egyptian Super Cup → 2022 Egyptian Super Cup? I'm not sure what the sources actually call it, but as proposed it would be utterly confusing. No such user (talk) 18:28, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Oppose as proposed, moving a bunch of articles makes no sense, simply correct the content. Giant Snowman 21:35, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
So you only oppose the way the application was put forward, and I have already made it clear to you as much as possible in the WikiProject Football, but it did not attract, as usual, the required interest. I know it's a bit confusing but we have to follow the official bodies. The Rsssf source is perfectly reliable. How can the article be named 2021-22 and that edition have not been played yet? The 2021-22 Egypt Cup final has not been played yet, and the winner will face Zamalek, possibly in May 2023. Sakiv (talk) 22:49, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Furthermore, these images clearly show that the first Super Cup held abroad in the UAE specifically was labelled as the 2014-15 edition not 2015-16. [5] Sakiv (talk) 03:41, 17 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The second year in the range should be given in full per MOS:DATERANGE. Schierbecker (talk) 17:47, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
We are discussing something completely different here. I find it difficult to understand how a huge encyclopedia like Wikipedia can publish incorrect information like this and the title is misleading to someone who is even less knowledgeable about football. Sakiv (talk) 20:28, 24 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Move to the single match year per No such user. Compare 2010 NBA Finals, 2011 NBA Finals, 2012 NBA Finals, despite each finals ending a season that began the previous year. BD2412 T 21:16, 26 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Move to the single match year as this is much easier to understand for most users, and is consistent with other sports where finals don't match the same year as the preceding tournaments. Joseph2302 (talk) 08:12, 27 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I have updated template links in line with those move, but otherwise left content unchanged; I believe any such changes are better suited to editors who understand the content. BilledMammal (talk) 00:05, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Continue the discussion here

This matter has yet to be satisfactorily resolved, and is better discussed on the talk page of the main article for the topic, rather than a page that's archived faster than the issue can be settled. – wbm1058 (talk) 12:19, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Starting at the beginning, the first Egyptian Super Cup was moved on 8 November 2019 by Ben5218 from 2001 Egyptian Super Cup to 2001–02 Egyptian Super Cup. The match was played on 14 September 2001, which was a week before the start of the 2001–02 Egyptian Premier League season. The match was between Zamalek SC, 2000–01 Egyptian Premier League champions, and Egypt Cup runner-up Ghazl El Mahalla SC.

So the question is, how do we name this first Egyptian Super Cup?

2000–01 Egyptian Super Cup, as the match pitting 2000–01 Egyptian Premier League and Egypt Cup champions/runners-up
2001–02 Egyptian Super Cup, as the opening match of the 2001–02 season
2001 Egyptian Super Cup, as the Egyptian Super Cup held in calendar year 2001 (specifically, on 14 September 2001)

I think the latter is the best solution, as it avoids the ambiguity as to whether the two-year season range means that this is the last match of the 2000–01 season or the first match of the 2001–02 season. Really, it's neither, as the date is after the end of the 2000–01 season and before the start of the 2001–02 season. The Arabic version of the article appears to just use the single year 2001 in the title, not a two-year range. – wbm1058 (talk) 14:52, 30 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support second option. In recent years (since 2017) to be exact, there were no pre-selected dates for the Egyptian Super Cup matches, and it was played during different phases of the season every year.

For example, the match played on 21 September 2021, between the 2019–20 Egyptian Premier League champions and Egypt Cup runners-up, was postponed multiple times until it eventually took place just before the start of the 2021–22 season, so if we named it 2020 Egyptian Super Cup, it would've definitely caused confusion, simply because the match did not take place in 2020. At the same time, if we named it 2021 Egyptian Super Cup, it would be wrong, because that title should be for the match consisting of the league and cup winners from the 2020–21 season.

Keeping all that in mind, I decided to put the season in which the match should take place in, instead of the year, because I thought that this was the only suitable solution for this case, and due to WP:CONSISTENCY, I decided to do the same to all Egyptian Super Cup matches from previous seasons. Ben5218 (talk) 05:26, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I see, so apparently the COVID-19 pandemic was responsible for delaying matches and disrupting our naming convention, or has there been scheduling inconsistency even before the pandemic started? wbm1058 (talk) 11:23, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There was scheduling inconsistency for the competition match since 2017, and for all domestic competitions in Egypt actually since 2011 due to various reasons, but I don't think that the pandemic is one of those reasons. Ben5218 (talk) 22:38, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

naming the match played on 21 September 2021 to 2021 Egyptian Super Cup would be wrong, because that title should be for the match consisting of the league and cup winners from the 2020–21 season. – Huh? What logic? Why? Pelmeen10 (talk) 04:01, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sorry, but I don't understand what do you mean by "what logic?". That match was originally intended to be played in 2020, just ahead of the 2020–21 season, and by default it should be named 2020 Egyptian Super Cup, just like any other super cup tournament, while the match consisting of 2020–21 league and cup winners should be named 2021 Egyptian Super Cup. The first one was postponed and played in September 2021, and because of that, naming it 2021 Egyptian Super Cup would be wrong for these two reasons:

As mentioned before, that match was contested by the 2019–20 Egyptian Premier League champions, and 2019–20 Egypt Cup runners-up, and originally scheduled to be played in 2020 before the beginning of the 2020–21 season in Egyptian football.
The match was originally not intended to be played in 2021, and there was another Egyptian Super Cup match supposed to be played in 2021, but was postponed after the 2020–21 Egypt Cup was postponed due to the COVID-19 pandemic, and the EFA decided to play the remained of matches in 2022 rather than cancelling the tournament. This is something I forgot to mention in my previous comment, as that match (later played in October 2022) was the only super cup fixture that was affected by the pandemic.

This has been happening in Egypt for almost 10 years, and this case is different from any other country, that's why I believe writing the season in which the game took place in (or ahead of) would be the best solution that can be applied to all editions of the tournament. Ben5218 (talk) 22:51, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Should we call a Cup that happens in 2001, a "2000-01 cup" or "2001-02 cup"? Just call it "2001" and be done with it. The season it should follow or precede adds extra confusion and while that may change, the actual year it happens, is always certain. It is 1 match, 1 match per year. Seasons preciding and following are also irrelevant with the postponements coming to play. Then the options become 1)"season it should follow" 2)"season it should precede" 3)"season actually follows" 4)"season actually precedes" 5)"Option X when played in the middle of a season". And things to consider are that if the game is played closer to the ending of a season, or closer to the start of the season. It obviously makes thing way too complicated as the matches have been held in January, February, July, August, September, October. Pelmeen10 (talk) 02:28, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless of other wikis that are not reliable sources, we must follow sources from third parties. Sources like RSSSF should be acceptable. In my opinion, naming the Super Cup that follows the league and the cup that season is the best proposal, because the dates of tournaments in Egypt are subject to delay, unlike many other countries. Sakiv (talk) 02:45, 5 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2001 and name all articles by the year the match took place. That is the most common logic and behind all Super Cups so far. So I propose these page moves 2001–02 Egyptian Super Cup→2001 Egyptian Super Cup, 2002–03 Egyptian Super Cup→2002 Egyptian Super Cup, 2003–04 Egyptian Super Cup→2003 Egyptian Super Cup, 2004–05 Egyptian Super Cup→2004 Egyptian Super Cup, 2005–06 Egyptian Super Cup→2005 Egyptian Super Cup, 2006–07 Egyptian Super Cup→2006 Egyptian Super Cup, 2014–15 Egyptian Super Cup→2014 Egyptian Super Cup. PS: it seems this was also the most popular opinion in the previous discussions at Talk:2018 Egyptian Super Cup and Talk:2022 Egyptian Super Cup. -Pelmeen10 (talk) 04:01, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. This is done on almost all super cups around the world. (e.g. 2022 FA Community Shield, 2022 Supercoppa Italiana, 2022 DFL-Supercup, 2022 Croatian Football Super Cup, 2022 Johan Cruyff Shield the list goes on) Mwiqdoh (talk) 06:09, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Nothing require us to follow other super cups. In Egypt they have decided to follow this branding of their tournaments. Endorse xxxx-xxxx in title instead of single year which is a mess. Sakiv (talk) 11:54, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It's one match, and so should just contain the year that it was held. Implying that a single match was held over 2 years is wrong. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:10, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Did you look at Supercopa de España? The 2010-11 Super Cup took place in 2012 so it's even more baffling. Sakiv (talk) 12:15, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2010, 2011 and 2012 Supercopa de España took place on those years stated in their title. Pelmeen10 (talk) 16:01, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I meant Egyptian Super Cup! Sakiv (talk) 16:12, 4 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 6 April 2023

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The result of the move request was: Moved. A substantial majority of !votes support this, and it seems to be backed up by logic in terms of when they took place and sourcing. — Amakuru (talk) 15:31, 26 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

– Based on the previous discussions above, most popular opinion was to name the Super Cups by the years they took place. Other Egyptian Super Cup pages were already moved with the same rationale. Pelmeen10 (talk) 08:35, 6 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. -- Maddy from Celeste (WAVEDASH) 20:07, 18 April 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 23:43, 9 May 2023 (UTC) — Relisting. CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (please mention me on reply) 17:58, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That is not true at all. Most sources I brought in mention double years. This is not going well. Sakiv (talk) 12:19, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support as per the discussion above, it seems like most people other than Sakiv support these one-match tournaments having the name of the year they were in. This is WP:CONSISTENT with other football and sports events which consist of only one match. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:31, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Can't you read?? This is what @Ben5218: had to say: I believe writing the season in which the game took place in (or ahead of) would be the best solution that can be applied to all editions of the tournament.--Sakiv (talk) 12:49, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That's why I said most. Joseph2302 (talk) 12:52, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sources confirming the unusual branding by the Egyptian Football Association.

Egyptian League
Koraplus
RSSSF
Egypt Independent The cup played in October 2022 was the 2020–21 edition not 2021–22.

We should not follow what other countries name their tournaments, we are here talking about an Egyptian competition. It denotes that it belongs to the season that had just finished nothing else. This should not be a problem if it's a single match.--Sakiv (talk) 12:49, 6 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[6] Zamalek vs Ghazl El Mahalla in 2001.
[7] The sources speak for themselves. That should be enough.--Sakiv (talk) 04:57, 12 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Support to match e.g. 2022 FA Community Shield, being the year the match is played, not the season it relates to. Giant Snowman 08:57, 7 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This Cup has nothing to do with the Community Shield. Two different trophies in different continents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.15.138.114 (talk) 12:36, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@GiantSnowman: By that logic, shouldn't we change the title for the last three editions of the Supercoppa Italiana as well? The title for these matches says (2020, 2021, and 2022), but the matches actually took place in 2021, 2022, and 2023, respectively. Ben5218 (talk) 05:43, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Aren't those slightly different, as they were delayed due to COVID, in the same way that the 2020 Olympics was in 2021? Giant Snowman 21:27, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

The pandemic was responsible for the postponement of the 2020 edition only, and not for the other two editions, as far as I can tell. Actually, the latest Supercoppa Italiana is referred to on the official Serie A website as EA Sports Supercup 2022/2023, and on the official Inter Milan website as 2022/23 Supercoppa Italiana, in both websites, they refer to the match with the season it's scheduled to be played in, rather than the year, whether it was 2022 or 2023. This is the same this I did to all Egyptian Super Cup articles here on Wikipedia a while ago.

For other quadrennial tournaments, such as the 2020 Summer Olympics as you mentioned, and the UEFA Euro 2020 for example, they kept the year which was the tournament scheduled to be played in only due to marketing reasons, and this was announced by both tournaments' organizing parties. This is a different case, since these tournaments doesn't take place every year. Ben5218 (talk) 22:16, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Support we should use the year when the match is played, not to what it relates. Kante4 (talk) 10:45, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Kante4:You removed my message so I take here. You seem unlikely to respond either here. I saw that you voted in support and that is completely wrong. It seems that you are not a follower of Egyptian football, so how do you build this opinion? You should see this sources to make sure that the trophy belongs to the season that just ended. How can we explain to the reader which teams are playing if the cup is played long after the season ends. In Egypt, this is the norm.

https://www.rsssf.org/tablese/egysupcuphist.html. https://koraplus.com/article/48110/%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%B1%D9%8A%D8%AE-%D9%88%D9%86%D8%AA%D8%A7%D8%A6%D8%AC-%D9%83%D8%A3%D8%B3-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D9%88%D8%A8%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D8%B5%D8%B1%D9%8A-%D9%85%D9%86%D8%B0-%D8%A8%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%8A%D8%AA%D9%87%D8%A7-%D9%81%D9%8A-%D8%B9%D8%A7%D9%85-2000 46.15.138.114 (talk) 12:12, 15 April 2023 (UTC) https://twitter.com/Zamalek_On/status/1563206190636892164?t=Rprn8J1jFatv1MAKYwlrJA&s=19 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.15.138.114 (talk) 13:46, 15 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose. As I stated multiple times above, the case with the Egyptian Super Cup is unique, caused by many reasons, and the only suitable option that can be applied on all articles is to keep the titles in season format instead of including years; specifically adding the season in which the match should take place in.

Oh, and by the way, the next match (including 2021/22 winners) will take place in May 2023, and the second participating team was just confirmed less than 10 days ago, so I think it would be definitely weird to write 2022 in the title (since the match will take place in 2023), and also wouldn't be ideal to write 2023 (since in normal cases, that title should be for the 2022/23 winners, not 2021/22). Ben5218 (talk) 03:52, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

2022 Egyptian Super Cup took place on 28 October 2022, so the next one should be called 2023 Egyptian Super Cup. Your opinion seems to be very unique aswell, can't find a source that supports it. The fact that your opinion and Sakiv's opinion about which season to write are so different, is a perfect reason to choose the option inbetween - the year the match actually takes place. Pelmeen10 (talk) 21:33, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I've provided reasons why I believe the option I'm proposing is the best for this case. And for the sources, it will make things slightly more confusing due to inconsistency:

For the latest match that took place in 2022, if you look at the second image here, you will see that the tournament's official name for that edition is the 2021 SAIB Egyptian Super Cup. Here, they used the year in which the match was originally supposed to played in; they didn't name it 2022 super cup.
For the match that took place in 2020, if you look at the second image here, you will see that the tournament's official name for that edition is the 2018–19 SAIB Egyptian Super Cup. Here, the season from which the two teams qualified for the match was used in the title; they didn't name it 2020 super cup.
After the match that took place in 2017, you will see in this image taken while Zamalek players celebrate winning the cup, that the tournament's official name for that edition is the 2016–17 SAIB Egyptian Super Cup. Here, the season in which the match took place in was used in the title; they didn't name it 2017 super cup.

In only five years, three different formats were used. This just confirms the inconsistency in the naming convention for the competition by the EFA. Ben5218 (talk) 23:48, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Don't forget we are talking about 2001-2014 Super Cups. Pelmeen10 (talk) 07:05, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Same story, these were just some examples. Here, you can see that the match, which was played in 2014, was officially known as the 2014–15 Pepsi Egyptian Super Cup; the season in which the match took place in. The match that took place in 2010 was also known as the 2010–11 Etisalat Egyptian Super Cup, which can be partially seen in this image. For the other tournaments, I couldn't find a clear image showing their official names. Ben5218 (talk) 22:05, 20 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: Massive snag in the official naming of the events found? — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 23:43, 9 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Relisting comment: One last try per WP:IAR. CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (please mention me on reply) 17:58, 20 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Support for consistency. I had a long think about this. Iggy (Swan) (Contribs) 18:25, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Support. It makes much or sense in the way that you have proposed it. There is no need for us to overcomplicated the titles like we currently have it. aaronneallucas (talk) 20:31, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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