Talk:Don Dunstan

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It says, "but no national parks, gardens, buildings or performance venues were named after him" and has a photo of the Dunstan Playhouse which is named after him on the page. The two cannot stand. There is also the Electoral district of Dunstan. Is the first statement meant to be limited in time? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.225.130.100 (talk) 09:02, 15 February 2019 (UTC)

1979 election - Advertiser bias to Liberals

I've added this as one of the reasons Corcoran lost. As well as here, i've seen it stated in one or two other places as well as from Antony Green, but I struggle to find it. Can anyone help? Timeshift (talk) 00:55, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Anyone? Timeshift (talk) 13:35, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Dunstan govt established nudist Maslins beach

Article here. I notice it's not mentioned in this article. Would someone care to weave it in? Timeshift (talk) 23:19, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

Done. Added but with different ref. JennyOz (talk) 03:15, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Indaily Article

There is an extensive article about the Dunstan Government, recently in inDaily written by Peter Duncan https://indaily.com.au/opinion/2019/02/13/remembering-don-dunstan-necessary-nuance-and-correcting-the-record/ Alex Sims (talk) 00:55, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Featured article review needed

This Featured article is a 2006 promotion whose main writer retired ten years ago. The lead is out of compliance with WP:LEAD and WP:WIAFA. A reviewer (unsigned) at User:Dweller/Featured Articles that haven't been on Main Page wrote:

Huge paragraphs in an oversized Lead. Pretty well referenced. Minor niggle: MATS "plan" or "plans"? Taking a random part of the article for a close look, I examined his retirement, straddling two sections of the article. Some odd use of photo caption to include important sourced material that should be in the main text and is not. What was he "seriously ill" with when he resigned? What was "stage-managed" about the press conference (aren't press conferences by definition stage-managed? They're hardly spontaneous.) Article doesn't properly address his retirement from anything other than premiership - retirement from politics is alluded to only. These issues makes me suppose there are others I'm missing on this whistlestop lookthrough.

Unless someone can engage to bring this article back to FA standards, it should be submitted to Featured article review. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:24, 28 January 2020 (UTC)

These issues seem a bit trivial: I'm open to doing a bit of work if someone wants to illustrate in more depth what they see as the problem. I do note though that there have been two biographies of Dunstan since this was written, the 2019 Woollacott one in particular being far more in-depth than other past treatments and probably containing quite a bit of relevant missing info. (I have Dunstan's autobiography and the Hodge book and an ebook copy of the Woollacott one.) The Drover's Wife (talk) 08:57, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

I don't have offline sources, so might be of only limited help. The "minor niggle" of MATS plan or MATS plans - "plans" is footnoted to a book. The fact that we now know of the "MATS plan" doesn't mean the entire sentence with "plans" is not what the Transport Minister had to consider at the time. --Scott Davis ^Talk 11:29, 29 January 2020 (UTC)

I don't like the 2nd paragraph of the lead. Too much detail which is about Playford, Walsh and Hall instead of Dunstan. All it really needs to say is that Dunstan gained prominence over the Max Stuart case, became attorney-general under Walsh, became premier in 1967, lost it in 1968 due to the Playmander, and got back into office in 1970 after electoral reforms. In the 3rd lead paragraph, I would shorten the latter part about the problems in his administration, probably by deleting the first 2 sentences about his problems, as well as the comment about him getting short tempered. Adpete (talk) 05:22, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

It could probably be articulated better, but it's fairly critical to the story in any source you'll read. Playford was an incredibly long-serving and influential Premier, Walsh sort of fell in when the Playford government collapsed, Dunstan came in as a more long-term replacement, and much of Dunstan's career was very much linked to unravelling parts of the legacy of Playford's decades of leadership. Any of Dunstan's biographers would be able to explain that (and they all do) in a much more articulate way that my very-tired-right-now self but not talking about that would suggest that the author of the article just hadn't read the sources in any depth. The Drover's Wife (talk) 10:56, 14 February 2020 (UTC)

• Progress since notice:[1] some citation needed tags added, and still a very long lead. From comments above, it sounds like new source needs to be incorporated. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:46, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

@Dweller: might you look in here in terms of whether this article is close enough to be removed from WP:URFA/2020? I am unsure if all of those external links are needed, if the language is at times flowery, and if the other issues mentioned have been addressed enough to list it as "Satisfactory" to avoid FAR. The article has never run TFA, so we need to be a bit more strenuous than for articles that have, and I don't know the territory well enough to offer an opinion. Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:37, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

I think it's OK. The prose is fine and I've tidied up the excessive ELs. I think it's in good nick for Main page and I think FAR would be inappropriate. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 20:05, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, Dweller ... I will enter a "Satisfactory" at WP:URFA/2020 (but we need two more sigs on that to move it off the list, if you don't mind following my sig there once I do it.) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:14, 24 November 2020 (UTC)