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The political left-right spectrum is defined where left is government control over the means of production and right is private control over the means of production. How do we square the notion of "far right" somehow meaning "totalitarianism"? Under a totalitarian government, they would dictate and thus control all of the means of production. That would make any form of totalitarian government left not right. It cannot be true that on the left-right spectrum that fascism is far-right given the totalitarian component. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.104.112.170 (talk) 20:15, 29 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, that is not how the political left-right spectrum is defined. Notice that your definition conflicts with the customary placing of many ideologies on the spectrum, not just fascism. For example, anarchism is considered far-left. Obviously, "left" cannot mean "government control" if anarchism is far-left. Just like "right" cannot mean "private control", because several big-government ideologies are on the right (not just fascism, but also, for example, absolute monarchism).

The actual definition of left and right is that "left" means being pro-equality (far-left means absolute equality) and "right" means being pro-hierarchy (far-right means supremacy of some people over others). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1009:B001:A6A9:E8D0:A86F:F39D:88D6 (talk) 21:12, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]