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Merge

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Most other clubs are in the Dartmouth College student groups article. This article doesn't seem to be getting much edit activity, and, unlike Dartmouth Broadcasting and Dartmouth College Marching Band, there doesn't seem to be any precedent for forensic unions to have their own articles. -- Smith120bh/TALK 05:51, 3 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I think there is a lot of precedent for forensic unions to have their own articles, for example: Category:Student debating societies. Schi 23:46, 19 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Since when is "edit activity" the criteria? Agree with Schi (although that cat contains other organizations, at least a dozen of those are single university debate programs). savidan(talk) (e@) 13:33, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Alrighty, I'll remove the merge tag. The reason I mentioned edit activity is not to treat it as "the criteria", but because of other Dartmouth articles. There's a class at Dartmouth which includes writing a Wikipedia article - I went through a couple hundred pages of search results for "Dartmouth College" a few months ago and dug out a few dozen such articles which were created by one person about some campus organization, and then hadn't seen a single edit for sometimes a year or two. Unmaintained articles that end up being factually wrong because of being very outdated are not good for Wikipedia, either. And there's plenty of precedent for merging minor organizations into the Dartmouth College student groups article. However, two people evidently have at least some eye on this article and it's apparently not as minor as I thought, so removing my tag. -- Smith120bh/TALK 17:40, 20 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Merge or Delete

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Any reason why this article should not be merged with the other Dartmouth student groups or eliminated altogether? The contention that the group is "considered one of the strongest in the country" comes from one four year-old line from the student paper. Are we to understand that The Dartmouth is a fount of expertise on college forensics? That the undergraduate author of the piece is qualified to make such an adjudication or researched greatly into the question? (In fact, all sources are drawn from the student paper, including a couple of blatant puff pieces, hardly the type of national recognition that constitutes a proper source.) And the fact that it progresses at least one team on to the final round of sixteen... well, that's an argument that would justify a page for every wrestling program that consistently got one wrestler into the quarter-finals. DFU is a fairly successful student organization, nothing more, and should be listed as one. But if someone wants to spend the time to write an article on Ken Strange then that might be a worthy addition. --Patchyreynolds 14:25, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  • Agreed for Merge or Delete. The topic could be interesting, but it doesn't really have the legs to stand on its own. Being quoted in a major newspaper is not enough for a non-trivial reference, and in this case, it's not even a major newspaper, but rather, antiquated collegiate sources. With updating or changing a large portion of the article, it's possible that it could become a viable topic, but I think ultimately it belongs within Dartmouth College Student Groups. LCMike 22:53, 20 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This redirects from the acronym also used for Device Failsafe Utility for Apple products. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.128.100.217 (talk) 17:44, 19 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And for the USB Device Firmware Upgrade protocol used in Openmoko smartphones. Not to mention Deutsche Friedensunion, Dansk Folkepartis Ungdom, ... Some obscure student club shouldn't be able to hijack a TLA redirect.

As this club fails both WP:GNG and WP:ORG, as per WP:BEFORE I have redirected it to Dartmouth College student groups#Dartmouth Forensic Union, happy to take this to AfD if anyone disagrees. Codf1977 (talk) 16:20, 19 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]