Talk:Colloid cyst

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Facebook link added back onto the page - this is an important network for CS patients, please leave this in place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peerquaide (talk • contribs) 10:07, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Added links to this page - can the orphan status be changed? Davidfraser (talk) 21:23, 24 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Request

After looking at the 2ed paragraph of the introduction which is as follows:

"Symptoms can include headache, vertigo, memory deficits, diplopia, behavioral disturbances and in extreme cases, sudden death. The developmental origin is unclear, though they may be of endodermal origin, which would explain the mucin-producing, ciliated cell type. These cysts can be surgically resected, and opinion is divided about the advisability of this."

I am going to NOTE some errors other than the unsupported references.

(1) "Symptoms can include headache, vertigo, memory deficits, diplopia, behavioral disturbances" are caused by the secondary condition that is brought on by the Colloid Cyst which is Hydrocephalus, Hydro, Water on the Brain. You can develop Hydrocephalus for other reason other than a Colloid Cyst and the First sentence needs to be rewritten to clarify with references. Which the one thing the first sentence has that is correct is the fact a Colloid Cyst will eventually cause unexpected death,sudden death and or be the cause of death if left unchecked and removed.

(2)"The developmental origin is unclear, though they may be of endodermal origin, which would explain the mucin-producing, ciliated cell type." <- seriously? If this sentence was completely rewritten in a common tone with references it would read better and probably would be more fact base. where does one start on that with the 'developmental origin is unclear', which is incorrect and not referenced. Part-B of this "which would explain the mucin-producing, ciliated cell type.", is saying something other than what a colloid cyst fills with over time as it enlarges, which for the amusement of the Wikipedia editors:

A Colloid Cyst contents, which appears as a thick yellow green fluid when open has been found to contain numerous constituents derived from the secretions and breakdown products of the epithelial lining, including old blood, hemosiderin within macrophages, cholesterol crystals, CSF, and diverse ions (sodium, magnesium, calcium, copper, silicon, aluminum, iron, and phosphorus), which over time cause the Colloid cyst to enlarge in size over time. ^[1] ^[2]

which I can breakdown some of those BIG WORDS into an understandable tone, which is a suggestion also.--Timeholder144 (talk) 13:28, 10 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The page needs a little general house cleaning from what it was back in 2012, the last sentience in the introduction that says "These cysts can be surgically resected, and opinion is divided about the advisability of this." is very extensively covered in the 2ed part titled "Colloid cyst resection" making the last in the introduction unnecessary, and should be removed, any objections?--Timeholder144 (talk) 20:38, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The actual NUMBERS are for a Colloid Cyst they account for 0.55 to 2 percent of all intracranial tumors. source:^[3]--Timeholder144 (talk) 14:29, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Questioning a sentence variability because it holds no reference to the source of data it refers to. where, what county, and how is "These cysts account for approximately 1% of all intracranial tumors." been determined? suggest it be eddited and removed.--Timeholder144 (talk) 12:08, 9 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have requested to be Adim to this page between Peerquaide and myself we can add more vital medical information to this other than it's "dry medical overview"Timeholder (talk) 00:15, 15 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Replied, thanks. Biosthmors (talk) 02:41, 15 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

References

Additional Comment

Ok added how a CC is discovered and I added the wiki reference section for information can be backtrack to the source of all the information that will be in the stub, If anyone needs help in the research department I have Five hundred and Thirty Three survivors of a Colloid Cyst Brain Tumor that will be more than glad to point you in the right direction as to where to look for it, yes it can be found on the net. looking forward to covering the CC developing, where and when it forms and how it enlarges as the body grows to different removal options. As for the above information of those Five hundred and Thirty Three survivors I am one and so are some of my friend who been here before me, for all intended purposes editing any information that you have not added to the Stub is not advised. Together we can make this stub have a real reason to be on wikipedia, thank you for your cooperation.Timeholder (talk) 07:59, 15 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Copyright problem removed

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Ok, now I have a "problem", exactly what was the issues with my additions to the stub, this seems to have been a blanket deletion because the remaining "overview" is still in place without Citing the source(s) of information. For example, the Cat scan GIF image I added was removed because of what reason because that was My CT SCAN and I made the Gif image and I placed no copyright or copyleft on that image of my work so it could be used on wikipedia. Again this stub "appears to be overly protected" from further additions to help enhance the depth of the topic of this medical condition and I personally have experienced finding this stub ~as is~ and I am overly stunned that it hasn't been allowed to be added to in past five years. Off to my own "sandbox project" which will be about this condition.Timeholder (talk) 19:47, 15 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

An image of you is not necessariy your image. By default, it belongs to whoever made the image in most jurisdictions. Some laws make little sense, but we still have to comply. See copyright and wp:copyright for more on this. LeadSongDog come howl! 20:04, 15 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

ok, just to be more defined, The catscan image is a GIF image I made of a cat scan that was made from my own personnel Cat scan images of a 1cm Colloid Cyst which for the stub is relivant. I made the GIF and published it without any (Copy rights) or (Copy lefts) attached for that the use of it wouldn't be hindered on wikipedia. Yes that IMAGE is something I built and it is of me and is an example of a Colloid Cyst and yes I just gave it away for "free-use", problem? What was wrong with adding The /Ref/ section for additional sources of information could be cited? Timeholder (talk) 22:09, 15 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Presumably the CAT scan images were originally created by a lab or doctor's office of some kind? If the lab has not assigned the image rights to you in writing, then your GIF has "inherited" the copyright status of the original images. Consider what would happen if a person took a normal photograph of you - that person would own the copyright to that image, even though it's a photo of you. Dreamyshade (talk) 06:16, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttps://radiopaedia.org/articles/colloid-cyst-of-the-third-ventricle

[2] ttps://www.inkling.com/read/imaging-brain-naidich-1st/chapter-27/colloid-cyst

[3] ttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8888834

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