Talk:City Lights
![]() | This article is written in American English, which has its own spelling conventions (color, defense, traveled) and some terms that are used in it may be different or absent from other varieties of English. According to the relevant style guide, this should not be changed without broad consensus. |
![]() | City Lights has been listed as one of the Media and drama good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it. Review: September 17, 2013. (Reviewed version). |
![]() | This ![]() It is of interest to the following WikiProjects: | ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
|
Theatrical Release Poster
[edit]Any reason the current main image is a still from the film and not the theatrical release poster? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.195.165.253 (talk) 20:24, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
- Because it's a great image? EEng 06:08, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
Untitled
[edit]I changed a paragraph that implied the girl's dreams were dashed upon realizing her benefactor was a tramp. I don't think it mattered either way to her. I think she was 1) just happy to finally meet the dude, and 2) maybe a little surprised that her dude was a man of such modest means. At any rate, she was touched and joyful... nothing dashed or disappointed about it.
- I think part of the greatness of the ending is its openness to more than one interpretation. I can see how it could be read as joyful. But personally, I see it as a crushingly sad ending-- Chaplin says, "You can see now?" She replies, "Yes, I can see," and the screen goes black, implying (to me) that any hopes the tramp had for them were ended when he gave her sight, and he knew it. It was a gesture of self-sacrifice on more than one level.
- But regardless, the article should probably just describe what happens without putting an interpretation on it. I think it's fine as it stands. Rizzleboffin 04:35, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
- While it might make for an interesting essay to imagine modified endings to the film, it's absurd to attempt to interpret the actual ending as anything but joyful. You omit that she pulls his hand to her breast, for crying out loud. EEng 05:15, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
Chaplin did not compose the love theme of City Lights
[edit]The love theme of City Lights, the Leitmotif of the blind girl, is José Padilla's "La violetera". Only after a trial for plagiarism, in Paris, Chaplin finally admitted the facts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.216.157.226 (talk) 05:41, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
No coverage of why the film was good
[edit]Although there are many references to the fact that prominent people praised the film, there is little discussion of why. Among all the studies, there must be discussions of why the film is so moving. It would be useful to have that content, and not just ranking lists.Parkwells (talk) 16:22, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
Double Florence Lee????
[edit]IMDb says that there are two actresses named Florence Lee: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0497265/?ref_=nmbio_trv_2 and http://www.imdb.com/name/nm5681967/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1. Who played the role of the Grandmother. While this article states that it's the Florence Lee born in 1888, the appereance and age of the Grandmother's character belong more to the other Florence Lee who played "motherly roles". --Clibenfoart (talk) 22:36, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
- Well, this is giving me a headache. After comparing the films (not shorts) of Florence I (8 films) and II (13, including City Lights) in IMDB to those of the only Florence Lee in TCM (12) and AMG (8), I'm even more confused. They were active in the same era, and TCM has 10 of II's films and 2 of I's, while AMG has 7 and 1, respectively. The photo in Florence Lee definitely doesn't match the person in the film, but the Library of Congress, from whence it came, doesn't even say this particular Florence Lee was an actress, just "possibly a fortune teller" "between ca. 1910 and ca. 1915". Florence I would have been about 43, too young compared to the grandmother in the film IMO; the notes for II state she is "Not the same actress as Florence Lee, a younger type of the 1920s", but that's hardly trustworthy. I'm strongly inclined to trust IMDb's credits, but to make this even more murky, the only really reliable sources I've been able to dig up actually support Florence I. The Library of Congress Name Authority File for I lists "City lights [sic]" in its sources, as do most of the other authority controls in her article. AAAARGH. (In any case, I'm going to remove the photo.) Clarityfiend (talk) 03:23, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
- I've looked into the Our Gang comedy Ask Grandma (1925) in which Florence Lee (II) played (according to IMDb) the title role of the Grandmother: She appeares among other scenes at 9:30 (https://archive.org/details/AskGrandma) and it's certainly the same actress as the actress of the Grandmother in City Lights. I think the Grandmother is Florence Lee (II) and that her film credits were wrongly put together with the Florence Lee (I) for a long time. --Clibenfoart (talk) 09:57, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
I talked about this with Xquenda on the German wikipedia.
- The Florence Lee who played in the Our Gang comedies Ask Grandma and Fair and Muddy is probably the Grandmother, if you compare it with the footage of those filmes.
- Florence Lee (1888-1962) was married with Dell Henderson, as you can see there 1. She played in some pictures at Biograph (where she also met Henderson, who worked there as a director/actor), but she probably didn't play the Grandmother in City Lights. The woman in the picture could be Florence Lee, but there's also probably a third Florence Lee, because there 1 is another Florence Lee who doesn't look like the other Florence Lees. --Clibenfoart (talk) 18:26, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
Two years have passed and I checked Florence Lee at IMDb, and there is now a birth/death year: 1864-1933. Sounds quite plausible. --Clibenfoart (talk) 15:52, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
As of 2019, it seems like there is some kind of consensus here that she is indeed Florence Lee born in 1864, I took the liberty to correct an internal link inserted in 2012 by an IP contributor that was still linking to the other one. Not a regular contributor here, please correct if I did wrong. Icéön Ereminet (talk) 23:58, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
External links modified
[edit]Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 2 external links on City Lights. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120515211647/http://www.bfi.org.uk/sightandsound/topten/poll/critics-long.html to http://www.bfi.org.uk/sightandsound/topten/poll/critics-long.html
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120419221742/http://www.loc.gov:80/film/registry_titles.php to http://www.loc.gov/film/registry_titles.php
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at {{Sourcecheck}}
).
This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
- If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
- If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 10:02, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
External links modified
[edit]Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 2 external links on City Lights. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20110705021919/http://www.charliechaplin.com/biography/articles/205-Chaplin-as-a-composer to http://www.charliechaplin.com/biography/articles/205-Chaplin-as-a-composer
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20110514141803/http://www.bfi.org.uk/sightandsound/topten/history/1952.html to http://www.bfi.org.uk/sightandsound/topten/history/1952.html
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
- If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
- If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 05:32, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
External links modified
[edit]Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 2 external links on City Lights. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20101122062524/http://charliechaplin.com/biography/articles/4-City-Lights to http://www.charliechaplin.com/biography/articles/4-City-Lights
- Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120325210653/http://www.marielilasagabaster.net/autores.php?id=147 to http://www.marielilasagabaster.net/autores.php?id=147
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}}
(last update: 5 June 2024).
- If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
- If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 08:39, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
See Also Section
[edit]There are a bunch of S. Asian movies dumped into this section, seemingly without rhyme or reason. Perhaps we should delete them? Gibbousmoon100 (talk) 01:34, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
Unreliable Source
[edit]The link for the Biography of José Padilla Sánchez contains a reprint of the Spanish Wikipedia article. Goldnpuppy (talk) 02:58, 10 January 2021 (UTC)
- Wikipedia articles that use American English
- Wikipedia good articles
- Media and drama good articles
- GA-Class vital articles
- Wikipedia level-4 vital articles
- Wikipedia vital articles in Arts
- GA-Class level-4 vital articles
- Wikipedia level-4 vital articles in Arts
- GA-Class vital articles in Arts
- GA-Class film articles
- GA-Class Silent films articles
- Silent films task force articles
- Core film articles supported by the silent films task force
- GA-Class core film articles
- WikiProject Film core articles
- GA-Class American cinema articles
- American cinema task force articles
- Core film articles supported by the American cinema task force
- WikiProject Film articles
- GA-Class United States articles
- Mid-importance United States articles
- GA-Class United States articles of Mid-importance
- Top-importance American cinema articles
- WikiProject United States articles
- GA-Class California articles
- Low-importance California articles
- GA-Class Los Angeles articles
- Mid-importance Los Angeles articles
- Los Angeles area task force articles
- WikiProject California articles
- GA-Class Library of Congress articles
- Low-importance Library of Congress articles
- WikiProject Library of Congress articles
- GA-Class Comedy articles
- Top-importance Comedy articles
- WikiProject Comedy articles
- GA-Class romance articles
- Mid-importance romance articles
- WikiProject Romance articles