Talk:Birthstone

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Title of Article

Why is the title "Birthstones" as opposed to "Birthstone," the singular is better. When I type in "tractor" in Wikipedia, I expect to see a page named "tractor," not "tractors." --Coching (talk) 04:53, 8 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Probably because the set of stones is what the article is about, not the idea of a solitary item like a tractor. --71.110.67.30 (talk) 21:40, 24 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed that "Birthstone" would be a better title. People ask themselves, "What's my birthstone?", and do not generally seek a reference to "birthstones". The 'tractor' example above is quite right. But I don't really see why it ought to be changed at this point, and the article does refer to the complete list and not just one stone.--Djathinkimacowboy 00:07, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Changes

Done a great deal of fine-tuning to the article. Mainly it needed some of the uncited material and unconstructive prose removed. Also the sections have been reformatted and in some cases retitled to better reflect the content. This thing needs work. I'll see what I can do as time allows me, and gladly welcome any assistance.--Djathinkimacowboy 00:05, 5 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note about the modern birthstones lists and citations

The two references used inline- the AGTA and the Jewelers of America pamphlet- do not disagree and are both allowed per Wikipedia citation rules. In fact, the JA pamphlet is a guide to gems in general, though it does include the birthstone month of a gem if it has one. The AGTA specifically names the modern birthstones used by jewelers in America. Both lists and references should be kept. I post this because the AGTA list was deleted and should not have been, in my opinion. It's too confusing for those who are seeking only the modern list. This could be modified if anybody could find a chart we could place in the lead.--Djathinkimacowboy 05:07, 9 February 2012 (UTC) hi — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.204.53.30 (talk) 17:50, 28 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Modern birthstones

There are dozens of lists of modern birthstones. Each organization seems to have its own list, and each one seems to have one stone that none of the others have. I've looked at a lot of them, and the list below seems to reflect the general consensus, as seen on these websites: ^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4]^[5]

January - garnet

February - amethyst

March - aquamarine

April - diamond^[1]^[2]^[3]^[4] or^[5] white topaz

May - emerald

June - pearl^[1]^[2]^[3] or^[4] alexandrite^[5]

July - ruby

August - peridot

September - sapphire October - opal^[1]^[2]^[3] or^[4] pink tourmaline^[5]

November - citrine, pearl

December - blue topaz^[1]^[2]^[3]^[5] or^[4] tanzanite

All the stones on this list are included on dozens of lists. I changed this Wikipedia article to reflect this list, but someone else reverted my change. Although they didn't provide any source at all for their alternate alleged list. Is there any reason to believe that some other list is more authoritative than this list I've put together?

This list I put together goes for both the US and UK. Is there any reason to believe some other list is more authoritative for the UK than this list I've put together? - 173.171.162.145 (talk) 22:21, 9 February 2015 (UTC)[reply]

References

^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e "Zales birthstone list".
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e "JTV birthstone list".
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e "Helzberg birthstone list".
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e "Gemvara birthstone list".
^ ^a ^b ^c ^d ^e "Lifetime Mothers birthstone list".

Lead paragraph

The lead paragraph should tell where/in which cultures birthstones are from/are commonly used etc. It should also be expanded in other manners too, it is too thin currently. --Lucasdealmeidasm (talk) 05:05, 27 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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I added more about the april gemstone. The april gemstone is a diamond- like in minecraft- a rare ore/mineral.

https://theuselessweb.com/ thanks to https://theuselessweb.com/ i found out what i wanted to do. Gemstones. :-)

Diamonds are valuable and yet, super rare. September's are Saphhier. (I think i spelled it wrong)Ilovehanna04 (talk) 17:09, 11 September 2020 (UTC)Cite error: There are <ref> tags on this page without content in them (see the help page).[reply]

re: "Diamonds are valuable and yet, super rare."

They aren't rare, this is a myth propagated by the DeBeers Corporation to keep people buying diamonds. 50.125.249.133 (talk) 18:16, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Redundant "Modern Gemstones" list?

The "Birthstones by timeframe" table seems to have a redundant column for US (2019) and US (2022) (used to be 2021), with a source for the 2022 entry as some shady blog post. Does this article really need to be updated every year with a variety of blog posts about someone's opinion on what should be the birth stone that month? 50.125.249.133 (talk) 18:23, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, this article does not need redundant info linked to commercial sources. I have removed it (again). 76.119.40.77 (talk) 18:53, 11 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[Zales-1] "Zales birthstone list".

[JTV-2] "JTV birthstone list".

[Helzberg-3] "Helzberg birthstone list".

[Gemvara-4] "Gemvara birthstone list".

[Lifetime-5] "Lifetime Mothers birthstone list".

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