Talk:Ami Popper
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[edit]I tried to create a header/intro for this article. Thanks--Tom 17:21, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Where did you hear about his possible release in 2023?
[edit]I am living in Israel and to my knowledge, there is no talk about releasing Popper in 2023. This informatiom which you quote with no refrence is apparently wrong: If he gets time off (by law, a third of the sentence) for good behavior, he can be released around 2016, but that will be decided only then, not in advance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.143.123.10 (talk) 10:51, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
Jewish Terrorism cat?
[edit]There are plenty of sources calling him a terrorist and it certainly was racially targeted but I'm hesitant to add controversial tags without conversation. Thoughts? Sol (talk) 01:51, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
Terrorist or mass murderer
[edit]Confused about the language of mass murderer -- seems more applicable to Pol Pot. And analogous attacks in the same place or time are considered terrorism. Why mass murder and not terror, or vice versa? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.27.31.160 (talk) 23:54, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
"Israeli terrorist"
[edit]Why does Poper mentioned here as a "terrorist",while,for example,Leila Khaled is mentioned as a "Palestinian refugee" and a "former militant"?? In my opinion,that’s odd and inconsistent. עמית לונן (talk) 08:00, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- Can you point me to the trial details whereby Khaled was 'convicted' of terrorism? The one mowed down 7 Palestinians, the other hijacked airplanes, two incidents in which no one, save her fellow hijacker, died. Popper is still in a maximum security prison in Israel after his conviction, Khaled has apparently never engaged in similar acts for the last half century and is a free citizen. These differences may account for the fact that the one remains, in legal terms, a terrorist, while using is in Khaled's case implies an identity she has, at least as far as is known, retired from.Nishidani (talk) 12:27, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- The fact that she has harmed civilians for political motives makes her a terrorist,and she is still "active" in the conflict.
- The fact that Khaled never did it again does not mean that she isn’t a terrorist,and also Poper has never did it again since 1990. עמית לונן (talk) 14:17, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- What civilians did she harm, other than disrupting their flight plans? You are ignoring the point (and please write Popper, not Poper, which has an eerie papalist echo in Anglophone ears). Popper is in gaol as a terrorist and, aside from extremely brief furloughs, has had no opportunity to 'do it again'. Khaled has been free, unconvicted and not known to have ever engaged since, for half a century, in terrorist acts.Nishidani (talk) 14:24, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
- Effectively kidnapping civilians because she didnt like the idea of a Jewish state sounds like an act of terrorism to me. עמית לונן (talk) 12:24, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Using administrative detention to seize, take hostage or kidnap 3600 Palestinians from their families in the West Bank and detain them indefinitely, without evidence or a trial, because they supposedly like the idea of a Palestinian state sounds to me like terrorism as well. But neither I nor you are reliable sources and our opinions are irrelevant to wikipedia. Nishidani (talk) 12:53, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Firstly:Its called "Judea&Samaria"-there are many west banks of rivers around the world.
- Secondly:Its not a political debate and you behave like it is (asides from the whataboutism and your lies).
- It appears that there is absolutely no reason against removing the word "terrorist".
- עמית לונן (talk) 16:45, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, you've had your say. Goodbye Nishidani (talk) 17:03, 10 July 2024 (UTC)
- Using administrative detention to seize, take hostage or kidnap 3600 Palestinians from their families in the West Bank and detain them indefinitely, without evidence or a trial, because they supposedly like the idea of a Palestinian state sounds to me like terrorism as well. But neither I nor you are reliable sources and our opinions are irrelevant to wikipedia. Nishidani (talk) 12:53, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- Effectively kidnapping civilians because she didnt like the idea of a Jewish state sounds like an act of terrorism to me. עמית לונן (talk) 12:24, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
- What civilians did she harm, other than disrupting their flight plans? You are ignoring the point (and please write Popper, not Poper, which has an eerie papalist echo in Anglophone ears). Popper is in gaol as a terrorist and, aside from extremely brief furloughs, has had no opportunity to 'do it again'. Khaled has been free, unconvicted and not known to have ever engaged since, for half a century, in terrorist acts.Nishidani (talk) 14:24, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
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