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Merged contents

@Michaelh2001: I did the legwork to merge the full contents of this page properly into the main article and I left a redirect. I don't see grounds for your reversion. — JFG ^talk 18:21, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This is a significant and distinct incident. Over 100 arrested, multiple police officers injured, numerous businesses damaged. Other incidents can be merged, but this incident meets notability. The article needs to be expanded.Juneau Mike (talk) 18:25, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Further discussion of the merge

Cross-posted from User talk:JFG

Hello! I don't believe you and I have collaborated on Wikipedia before. I appreciate all you do for Wikipedia, I mean that sincerely. I restored that article not because you didn't combine it correctly (you did). But an article related to the current U.S. president should have a discussion before it is deleted or redirected. If the article goes to a AfD or a redirect discussion, fair enough. But there needs to be discussion first. Thanks! Juneau Mike (talk) 20:24, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Michaelh2001: Thanks for your comment. I suppose you are referring to 2017 United States Presidential Inauguration riots which I merged into Protests against Donald Trump earlier today. I initially considered applying a {{Merge to}} proposal, but in the process of writing the rationale for the merge, I realized that there was very little specific content, so that an immediate merge would avoid duplicated efforts by editors in both articles. Note that I acted within process, as the template says: If it is obvious that a merge would be appropriate, then you may boldly merge the pages without tagging and without discussion. The discussion you ask for is legitimate, so I will cross-post my reply on the article's talk page. An AfD would be inappropriate, because notability of the event is not questioned. I do not think this has the potential to expand beyond today's news though, and even then Protests against Donald Trump is the perfect place to document what happened in DC yesterday. — JFG ^talk 21:10, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

End of the cross-post

@Michaelh2001: In light of my explanations, I hope you will reconsider your revert, accept the merge, and work to expand contents directly in the target article. — JFG ^talk 21:17, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I respectfully disagree. I believe the article needs to be expanded, but also that it deserves to be stand-alone.Juneau Mike (talk) 00:18, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge

I agree with JFG above that this topic does not merit a standalone article. Currently it seems like this is covering the same topic as Protests against Donald Trump § Inauguration protests but emphasizing the illegal actions that occurred during the protests in order to push a POV. I think a better approach would be to expand the section of the more general article and only split it into a separate article if it becomes too long. Since there is some disagreement over this I will create a merge proposal for further discussion. 73.170.41.47 (talk) 22:34, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Isn't this also an option: Inauguration of Donald Trump protests. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 22:45, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Note that I already merged the full contents of this stub into Protests against Donald Trump#Inauguration protests yesterday and it hasn't expanded since then (and given its limited time scope, it can't expand much at all now that the events have passed), so I recommend returning to the redirect if there is consensus to merge. — JFG ^talk 23:49, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I agree, but I think we should give it a little time to establish consensus. I posted messages on the talk page of the Donald Trump and American Politics WikiProjects to see if anyone else wants to weigh in. 73.170.41.47 (talk) 01:09, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As it stands now this topic isn't worthy of its own article. If more information can be added, maybe, but otherwise a merge seems like a good idea.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 17:50, 23 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I favor a merger, agreeing with Vchimpanzee, JFG, and Another Believer. There is absolutely no reason why this cannot fit in other articles. Neutrality^talk 14:58, 25 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Seeing comments here and at the AfD discussion, it looks like there is consensus for the merge. Redirecting now. — JFG ^talk 20:18, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Purpose of this article

There doesn't seem to be much content here. Does this merit a separate article beyond what is covered in Inauguration of Donald Trump § Protests / Protests against Donald Trump § Inauguration protests? 2601:644:2:B64B:2C59:A260:211A:F7B7 (talk) 21:53, 21 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The article needs to be expanded, to be sure. But it was a significant riot, and has notability as a stand-alone article.Juneau Mike (talk) 00:28, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Right now this just seems like a POV fork of the existing coverage of the protests elsewhere on Wikipedia. I will add a POV tag. 73.170.41.47 (talk) 22:24, 22 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]