Talk:1917 Bath riots

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Additional Information + Potential Need For Integration (and/or Creation) of Other Pages on this Topic

Recently i was watching This Video by the YouTube Channel "Vox" Titled "The dark history of "gasoline baths" at the border"
- They go over the "Delousing" Procedures + Inspections/Facilities that were the reson for these riots
- They also mention these riots + the Bracero program by name
It seems like (despite being well written and having great sources/references etc which are a thing i do not do well enough myself; i don't want to step on any toes!, these pages don't seem to have too much information/depth to them
- Short of (again this page) as well as:
  - Bits and Pieces of the Bracero Program Page
  - There may be some good information i am overlooking in the sub-pages / pages related to the Eugenics in the United States page
Also there is no dedicated page on Delousing of Migrants in the United States / Medical Inspection of Migrants in the United States / etc
All in all i just wanted to make sure that video's existence was documented on-here somewhere (not as a primary source obviously, but a primer of sorts), and propose that this be something me and others "dive into" editing about sometime, given that it seems there isn't too much information about it on-wiki (although there may not be much information in existing literature i guess as well, but only one way to find out!)
I'll leave it at that for now i guess

--Eric Lotze (talk) 15:37, 15 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Kerosene role

Both the delousing shampoo and the body liquid soap uses kerosene. I’m assuming this use is similar to the current use of coal tar in delousing shampoos. An explanatory note could help show that it was, by then, believe to be a useful delousing agent.

Useful references are:

https://mednexus.org/doi/pdf/10.3760/cma.j.issn.0366-6999.1924.04.116 This 1924 article comments on the unsatisfactory usefulness of kerosene, but also gives insights into similar practices in Shanghai — in a humanitarian context, no less. More importantly, it cites earlier sources that praises kerosene as a quick lice-killing agent.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2179858/pdf/brmedj04117-0023.pdf from 1940 mentions two formulations with kerosene, one with coal tar, one without. The author very carefully notes that not all kerosene have the same lice-killing power.
there’s also a 1990 news article from Utah about a burn accident from kerosene shower fumes. The concerns are very founded!

(about the "similar practices": border showers deserve its own article. As far as I can tell it happened not just in the US-Mex border, but also in Israel with Jews arriving from Iraq — with DDT, which at least doesn’t burn.) Artoria 2e5 🌉 13:01, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Aha, Eric Lotze also asked for a broader article on the border practice. Maybe it really needs to be written! Artoria 2e5 🌉 13:03, 26 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Possible Improvement

I wanted to make a simple observation on the overall flow of the article. When reading it, the context provided in the "Background" section seemed sort of disconnected from the 1917 bath riots. Would there be a better way to integrate this information? Arb1021 (talk) 20:13, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]