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Creed of Al Jazairi as per Jawahir al Kalam

As per his creedal book Jawhir al Kalam Al-Jazairi espouses an Athari understanding.

See pages 25-28

QUOTE

" .24. What is the meaning of istiwa when He (Pure is He) says: ((Ar Rahman is firmly in control of the Throne))?... ُ What is meant by istiwa is a meaning which is befitting to the Might of Ar-Rahman (Exalted is He). Istiwa is known but its reality is unknown. The istiwa of Allah upon the throne is not like the sitting of a human being upon a ship or on the back of an animal or on a bed. The one who assumes that this is the case is from among those that are overcome by illusion, because he is creating a comparison between the Creator and the creation. It has been proven through sound intellect and transmission that there is nothing resembling Him. Just as His essence is not like any creation,. similarly, anything attributed to Him (Pure is He) is nothing like those things which are attributed to the creation.

25. Can we attribute two hands or eyes or anything similar to Allah (Pure and Exalted is He)? ...

The attribution of a hand to Allah (Pure and Exalted is He) has come in the Qur`an when He says: ((The Hand of Allah is above theirs)) and two hands when He says: ((O Iblees, what prevented you from prostrating to what I created with my hands) and eyes when He says: ((Be patient with the decision of your Lord, for you are under our eyes (protection))). However, it is impermissible to attribute anything to Him but that which He attributed to himself in His revealed book or is attributed to Him by his Messenger.

26. What is the meaning of yad here? .. What is meant with yad is a meaning which is befitting to Allah (Pure and Exalted is He) because everything attributed to Him (Pure is He) is nothing like anything attributed to the creation. Whosoever believes that He has a hand like a hand of the creation or an eye like the eye of the creation is overcome by illusion since He resembles Allah to the creation whereas there is nothing like Him.

27. To whom do you attribute what you mentioned regarding the meaning of istiwa, yadayn and ayun?.. ...

It has been attributed to the majority of the pious predecessors. However, majority of the later generations have interpreted istiwa (rising over) with istila and yad (hand) with blessings or power and ayun (eyes) with protection and guardianship. They did this because many of them perceived that if they do not interpret and move away from its apparent meaning then people will resemble Him [with the creation]. However, both groups are in agreement that those that create resemblance (i.e. the anthropomorphist) are astray. Others say, one will assume resemblance (anthropomorphism) if sound intellect and transmission would not testify to (the) transcendence (of Allah). Therefore, anyone creating a resemblance with Allah has done so through his lowly desires."

28: How can we establish something for Him and say, “its kayf (modality) is unknown”? ...

This is not unusual. We know that our existence is attributed with the quality of knowledge, power and will. However, we do not know how these attributes are established within one‟s existence. Rather, we hear and see and do not know how we are able to hear and see; we speak and we do not know how we have spoken. Even if we are aware of some aspects, we are unaware of many other aspects and the examples of which are many. If this is the state regarding those attributes which are attributed to one‟s self, then what about those attributes which are attributed to Allah (Pure is He).

29: Which is the most preferred School ?

...

The manner of the pious predecessors is preferred because it is more submissive and consolidated. The manner of those that came later should be adopted at the time of need. That is when there is fear regarding some people that if those words are not interpreted for them they will fall into giving a alikeness to Allah, so they interpret for them such an interpretation based on common linguistics.

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So based on this, its safe to say that Tahir al-Jazairi adhered to Athari school. Shadowwarrior8 (talk) 16:50, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]