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Delete. This is referenced almost entirely to primary and unreliable sources that are not support for notability, and the one WP:GNG-worthy reliable source (The Globe and Mail, "A virtual smoke-filled room") is a deadlink I had to go into ProQuest to recover, only to find that it glances off the existence of Firmex in the process of being principally about a different company altogether, which means it isn't about Firmex and thus doesn't clinch the notability of Firmex all by itself. Bearcat (talk) 15:30, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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merge? It's on the national map, and it does appear to be claimed by the Smith's Landing First Nation, and that is the entirety of what I could find other than some very minor data. At this point I think it makes the most sense for the list of reserves for this first nation to be converted into a table with data from the official Canadian sites, as there's not really enough on any of them to make a separate article that I can see. Mangoe (talk) 06:33, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to Smith's Landing First Nation. A First Nation and its reserve can have two separate articles if there's actual substance that can be said and reliably sourced about them to support separate articles with, but they do not always need to have two separate articles as an automatic matter of course — so until somebody can write something more substantial and better-sourced than "this is a place that exists, the end", a reserve should be retained as a redirect to the nation that inhabits it in the meantime. Bearcat (talk) 15:40, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment. Liking the solution proposed by Mangoe above of creating a unified table of all the Smith's Landing First Nation reserves. What is puzzling is that nine of the ten reserves listed on Smith's Landing First Nation actually can be verified on the Government of Canada website (see the example of Thebathi 196), but not seeing this "196G" there. Also, one of the sources on that page says that the band successfully reclaimed nine reserves, not ten, so was wondering if the tenth somehow has different status. Cielquiparle (talk) 07:56, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The other thing to add is that if you look at the article history, Tsʼu Kué 196G actually started out with citations like the other nine reserve stubs, but they were removed in 2020 due to failed verification. Cielquiparle (talk) 07:58, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep Has an entry in a major music encyclopedia, which is copiously referenced in the article already. If it's covered by other encyclopedias, it should be covered in this one. Chubbles (talk) 17:26, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete This entire article about a BLP is original research with virtually no citations. The single reliable source I see is The Encyclopedia of Popular Music but this is a tertiary source, not a secondary one. Lacking ANY direct detailing in applied or provided reliable secondary sources, this is not a keep. BusterD (talk) 11:58, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Tertiary sources are built from secondary sources and by definition indicate the presence of multiples of them. Since when can we not use encyclopedias to source this encyclopedia? (I've written literally thousands of articles sourced from other encyclopedias). Chubbles (talk) 04:41, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
For the record, my page creations aren't nearly as numerous as yours and my older creations are not very good at all. But I didn't boast of creating thousands of articles without using reliable secondary sources as you just did above. BusterD (talk) 05:33, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
None of the examples I saw were reasons to extol any virtue in your choosing to create these pages without actual direct detailing, merely their highest accomplishments as recounted (in miniature and at a distance) in dictionaries. Please see my note on User talk:Mdann52. These are people, not just subjects. When people die, Wikipedia's sourcing standards remain important. BusterD (talk) 06:43, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Those articles weren't the reason I said what I said; the ones that are sourced to Grove are, and Grove is the most comprehensive English-language jazz encyclopedia in existence. I did not request any showering of praise for the articles you singled out - all I did was point out that they meet our guidelines for inclusion. This is all starting to get rather badfaithy, and it's off-topic to this discussion, so you can direct all other helpful hints for improving my editing to my talk page. Chubbles (talk) 06:51, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
See WP:PSTS. They're not forbidden but article should be primarily sourced to secondary sources while using primary and tertiary sources sparingly. It's not about the number of sources, but how much of the article's key contents are based on things other than secondary sources. Graywalls (talk) 04:56, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That policy (WP:TERTIARY) is largely geared toward guiding people to cite original research over things like first-year summary textbooks. It doesn't address notability, because tertiary sources do establish notability if they are reliable, and the cited source certainly passes WP:RSTERTIARY. Chubbles (talk) 05:27, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Cleverly ignoring my first point that this was an OR BLP with no reliable secondary sources, yes, I'll concede we occasionally use tertiary sources. We don't generally base articles solely on such coverage, however. So you have presented a single encyclopedia as RS. Nothing else? Delete. BusterD (talk) 06:09, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That's because people don't write encyclopedia entries, in major (reliable) encyclopedias, without a base of secondary source material from which to draw. In any case, this will seal the deal: he meets WP:MUSIC by having a charting record - he reached #199 on the Billboard 200 in 1969 (as Merryweather & Friends, playing in a band with Steve Miller, Dave Mason, and Charlie Musselwhite) with the album Word of Mouth. My source is The Billboard Albums, 6th edition, p. 697. Chubbles (talk) 06:34, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Since the closer is doing favors, I'll ask the closer something for me too! FTR, this article was written as a BLP, but the subject died while it was still grossly unsourced and made up. How about vast sections of purely original research? Doesn't matter? May we keep my delete assertion because somebody pulled this entire article out of their empty library of sources when the subject was still living? Does BLP only apply to edits on article while the subject is STILL alive? We can freely make up stuff about dead people? Good to know! BusterD (talk) 04:24, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
BLP would have applied when the material was written, but not now, I'm happy to agree. Doesn't mean it can't be made up, and I suspect the article will get stubbified after this discussion. Unsourced statement can still be removed even if not a BLP, just there isn't an automatic presumption of removal on site. If it fails WP:V, it can still be removed (and if this is kept, I think this article will be pruned back substantually). Mdann52 (talk) 05:14, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If we can't prove what's written with sourcing and citation, then somebody literally made it up (as far as attribution is concerned). Might even be true, but just an assertion without sources. I would be satisfied with an outcome which kept but stubbified this article. And while I'm sure I have shown irritation; I'm far more irritated to be told "I've done this thousands of times" and the random examples look mostly like this (needing stubbifying)! BusterD (talk) 05:21, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - in addition the the encyclopaedic reference, there's also stuff like ProQuest2776468179 in 2023 from the foreign publication PopMatters, along with briefer mentions, such as in Peoplehere. Not to mention lots of reviews in magazines, such as in 1974 in Billboardhere. Seems to be a lot of stuff in Cashbox. There's no doubt that the article could, and should, be improved; but that's not a deletion criteria. Nfitz (talk) 02:02, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep I think Chubbles' interpretation of WP:RSTERTIARY is more correct. The PopMatters and Billboard reviews found by Nfitz, along with any other offline articles from the time, seem like enough to meet WP:GNG. hinnk (talk) 22:20, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep in view of the multiple reliable sources identified in this discussion including an encyclopaedia, Billboard, and Pop Matters so that WP:GNG is passed and deletion is unnecessary in my view Atlantic306 (talk) 21:00, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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I have carried out WP:BEFORE on this article about an artist, and not found any references from reliable, independent sources to add. I do not see that he meets WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO or WP:ARTIST. NB an earlier version of the article says the artist has worked on cover art for sci-fi books, so have sorted this in to that category. Tacyarg (talk) 21:50, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - This illustrator does not meet WP criteria for inclusion per GNG ANYBIO, BASIC nor NARTIST. A "before" search revealed sources for an economist who shares the same name (who actually may be notable per WP guidelines), however this François Vaillancourt is non-notable. Netherzone (talk) 23:41, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Completely unreferenced, does not cite any sources. Nothing shows this meets WP:ARTIST guidelines like "regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors." Elspea756 (talk) 15:50, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Weak delete. This engineer has done nice work, but has not attracted enough attention to his work through citations to meet WP:NPROF. There is press coverage, though - is there enough for general notabilty? If so, I'll change my recommendation. Qflib (talk) 18:40, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Project and organization both appear to lack notability, especially under WP:NORG. Article lacks sourcing and I was unable to find significant coverage via research. Brandon (talk) 01:12, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Fails GNG: The only candidate who used the "radical Christian" label is Rousseau, and contemporary coverage about him is not significant. Newspaper coverage shows that the three candidates in 1967 actually represented the Ralliement des créditistes, with the label "Créditiste". Helpful Raccoon (talk) 20:52, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. The notability standards for political parties don't confer any "inherent" notability freebies just because the grouping existed as a name on a ballot per se, and require the organization to pass WP:ORGDEPTH on reliable source coverage about it, but that's lacking here and there's not much else turning up. Bearcat (talk) 15:36, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Found basically nothing relating to Radical chrétien, only Jean Chrétien. Just because somebody decides to run under a certain party name, doesn't necessarily mean that that party name is notable. ❤HistoryTheorist❤19:05, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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All the coverage in the article is from February 2024 when she left the entertainment company Nijisanji. Beyond that, I've found two reliable sources that do not cover this topic (Siliconera 1, Siliconera 2). Wikipedia's notability criteria discourages articles on people notable for only one event, which this article seems to cover. Most of the content featured in the article also seems to be a content fork of the article Nijisanji. I suggest deleting the article or turning it into a redirect to the Nijisanji article. ArcticSeeress (talk) 08:47, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you found two other reliable sources, User:ArcticSeeress , for different events, and this "event" has significant international coverage (has anyone checked in other languages?) in major publications, such as in India], then surely GNG applies, and WP:1E doesn't apply? I feel I'm missing something. Nfitz (talk) 02:09, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you found two other reliable sources - Maybe I should have worded my opening statement better. I only found one reliable source (Siliconera) that talks about the subject beyond the single event, per WP:GNG: "Multiple publications from the same author or organization are usually regarded as a single source for the purposes of establishing notability".
and this "event" has significant international coverage (has anyone checked in other languages?) in major publications, such as in India, then surely GNG applies, and WP:1E doesn't apply - I'm not sure I understand this. WP:1E makes no reference to the geographic breadth of the sources. The coverage being international does not change the fact that most of it is about a single event. Also, I could not find sources in any other languages; sources generally also have the original word in Latin writing, so I'm certain you could find them pretty easily by searching "Dokibird". ArcticSeeress (talk) 16:11, 24 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Ambassadors are not inherently notable. He gets a mere 3 google news hits and article is unreferenced. His involvement with Maher Arar can be covered in that article. The 2 CBC news articles quoted at end are dead. Fails WP:BIO. LibStar (talk) 04:17, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete This is a company therefore GNG/WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. I'm unable to identify any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability. HighKing++ 10:00, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. Views to retain the page carry more weight than those to delete or redirect, not to mention being more numerous. Owen×☎20:54, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - as I pointed out last time, there are in-depth articles about the show, in national media coverage from the turn of the century. National Post ... actually the earlier more complete version of the article on the front page of the Montreal Gazette would be the better reference. Nfitz (talk) 22:37, 13 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
First article (National Post) is a hype piece centered on the 2 broadcasters that guest starred in an episode. It is not a review or indepth coverage of the show itself. Second article is just the same article, but more complete (as you stated). I don't think either support notability for the show. The article might be useful in the pages for the 2 broadcasters, but I feel it does nothing for an article on the show. DonaldD23talk to me00:38, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And the article also contains four other footnotes, from the Waterloo Record and the Ottawa Citizen and Maclean's, which you seem to be either overlooking or deliberately pretending they aren't there. Bearcat (talk) 16:45, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment....I concur with Donaldd23 and share his concern....six footnotes, yes, some from reliable media...but none of them seems to be focusing on the series except one (and only to mention it broadcast in Spain, which is significant but is it enough?)! One (Ottawa Citizen) is even an article from ...September 1998 (when the series premiered in October 1999....). (The article in The Record Kitchener is also dated from one month before 1st broadcast....) The Gulf News article just mentions the name of the series....And this cruel lack of content clearly shows in the article itself. And if the page cannot be expanded, a redirect is a better outcome....since when is the number of footnotes considered enough?-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank)20:48, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete This is a company therefore GNG/WP:NCORP requires at least two deep or significant sources with each source containing "Independent Content" showing in-depth information *on the company*. "Independent content", in order to count towards establishing notability, must include original and independent opinion, analysis, investigation, and fact checking that are clearly attributable to a source unaffiliated to the subject. I'm unable to identify any references that meet the criteria for establishing notability. Most of the sourcing focuses on interviewing the founder and contains no "Independent Content" beyond what has been provided by the company and/or execs. HighKing++ 17:23, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: I'd like to hear from more, hopefully experienced, editors. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, LizRead!Talk!03:49, 14 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep. Any unit with a 113-year history is likely to be notable. Lack of independent references is not a good reason for deletion. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:15, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep As one would expect for such an old unit, there's numerous references to the unit in the media throughout the wars. Even a 1946 book, and discussion in numerous other books about operations in both World Wars as they participated in battles like Vimy Ridge and on Juno Beach on D-Day. The German execution of three captured prisoners (2 from this unit) at the hands of Wilhelm Mohnke in 1944 gets media attention, such as ProQuest239462705 and also discussed in a book. Nfitz (talk) 16:31, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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WP:BLP of a crypto entrepreneur, not properly sourced as passing inclusion criteria for businesspeople. As always, CEOs of companies are not "inherently" notable just for existing, and have to establish that they pass WP:GNG on third-party coverage and analysis about them and their work -- but five of the eight footnotes here are primary sources that are not support for notability, such as his own company's press releases and his own self-created YouTube videos and a "staff" profile on the self-published website of an organization he's directly affiliated with, and one more is an unreliable source crypto-news forum. And what's left for reliable sources is one Forbes article that just briefly namechecks him as a provider of soundbite and one Forbes article that completely fails to contain even a glancing namecheck of Peter Wall at all, and instead is just here to tangentially verify stray facts about a company without providing any evidence that any of those facts have anything in particular to do with Peter Wall. As always, Wikipedia is not a free LinkedIn alternative for tech entrepreneurs, so nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt him from having to be referenced much, much better than this. Bearcat (talk) 12:56, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I complete understand your reservations about Peter Wall, and it was never my intention to sound like a Linkedin profile. Maybe I did not do due negligence when sourcing my references but the entire of the article was becuase he is a notable man both in Canadian media and in bitcoin. Can I nominate that we move the article to a draft while I source for other sources which do exist on the individual concerned and am sure when you searched online you will find that Peter Wall is extensively covered. LynnEditor.Nam (talk) 14:03, 1 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: current sourcing is Canada C3 Coast to Coast describing him as a team member (non-independent), a coworking space review mentioning his company but not him, two sources by him (non-independent), and two sources mentioning him joining and leaving as CEO without saying much about (providing significant coverage of) him, one short source about an IPO not mentioning him, and the bitcoin mining rush source which includes a quote from him and says basically nothing else. Mrfoogles (talk) 08:30, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Draftify as suggested: nominator is being unnecessarily harsh by calling it "not a free linkedin alternative" but I cannot find sources googling that are not associated with him, by him, or coverage that does not go into detail of him being in various positions.
Per Wikipedia:Notability, significant coverage (at least a paragraph specifically talking about him and who he is) from at least two reliable, independent (not affiliated with, employing, employed by, working together with him) sources is necessary for an article so that it can be written sufficiently independently and in-depth. Mrfoogles (talk) 08:35, 8 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: This isn't a notable person. This is about the best [2] and it's a PR item. A video journalist is just a "grunt behind the camera", to be blunt, and isn't notable. He's reported on things that happened, which is what videographers do. The crypto connection isn't helping notability. There is a real estate person in Vancouver that has coverage (with the same name), but it's not this person. Oaktree b (talk) 00:48, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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The result was keep. There is a clear consensus against deleting the page. Discussion about a potential merge can continue on the relevant Talk page. Owen×☎17:45, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article contains one reference which is not from an independent source. The subject of the article does not appear to be notable. PercyPigUK (talk) 17:23, 25 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This could also be said about the separate extant articles on 2, 3, 4, and 6 Intelligence Company though. Why single out just this one for being amalgamated up? Anecdotally, in terms of actual personnel numbers it's actually one of the largest of those five currently. 90% of the content of those other articles is just Intelligence Corps history, repurposed (the 2 Int entry reprints basically two other Wikipedia articles on Pickersgill and Macalister)... at least the 7 Intelligence Company entry is humble enough not to pad itself out with redundancy.
It's also somewhat problematic that we've recently privileged the Canadian Intelligence Corps, which is currently a notional/paper organization with no responsibilities and zero staff of its own, with an article, over the Canadian Army Intelligence Regiment, the working unit which comprises most of the working military intelligence personnel in the Canadian Forces. While the names are similar, this construct makes more sense for the British Intelligence Corps. In the Canadian context it just looks silly. BruceR (talk) 20:13, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article should certainly be somewhere (here or merged). It's a reasonable search terms given the media reports of sexual assault - for example it's mentioned 7 times in this article. Nfitz (talk) 01:12, 7 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. Just seems to me we've privileged all the other articles for exactly comparable things that engaged in shameless entry padding over the one article that didn't and kept itself factual. BruceR (talk) 13:07, 11 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The article can probably be kept but needs to be improved. The articles on companies 3 and 6 may need attention as well. Vacosea (talk) 16:43, 17 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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