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* '''Wait''' – Confusing. [https://apnews.com/e13d15348d0d96b55973f26659188e86 AP] says that soon after the king's appointment, 94-year-old Mahathir challenged it, naming "114 lawmakers that support his bid for a comeback as prime minister ... surpassing the 112 votes needed for a simple majority." Murky. – [[User:Sca|Sca]] ([[User talk:Sca|talk]]) 17:39, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
* '''Wait''' – Confusing. [https://apnews.com/e13d15348d0d96b55973f26659188e86 AP] says that soon after the king's appointment, 94-year-old Mahathir challenged it, naming "114 lawmakers that support his bid for a comeback as prime minister ... surpassing the 112 votes needed for a simple majority." Murky. – [[User:Sca|Sca]] ([[User talk:Sca|talk]]) 17:39, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
** If it is being contested then it can be posted as Ongoing as originally submitted. - [[User:Indefensible|Indefensible]] ([[User talk:Indefensible|talk]]) 19:12, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
** If it is being contested then it can be posted as Ongoing as originally submitted. - [[User:Indefensible|Indefensible]] ([[User talk:Indefensible|talk]]) 19:12, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
*He’s been sworn in. 18 hours ago. Nothing to wait for. ITN/R.—[[User:Mkativerata|Mkativerata]] ([[User talk:Mkativerata|talk]]) 19:31, 1 March 2020 (UTC)


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March 1

March 1, 2020 (2020-03-01) (Sunday)
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Ongoing: Northwestern Syria offensive (December 2019–present)

Although the war is still a protracted mess, Northwestern Syria offensive (December 2019–present) looks like a brinkmanship, with casualties on every opposing side, including Turkey and Russia. Article gets daily updates. Brandmeistertalk 14:05, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

One thing that is missing from this article appears to be the issues with refugees fleeing to Europe via Turkey [1] which probably should be documented as well. I believe this wave of refugees is from the latest offensive. --Masem (t) 14:15, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

February 29

February 29, 2020 (2020-02-29) (Saturday)
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Blurb/Ongoing: Malaysian political crisis

Article: 2020 Malaysian political crisis (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Muhyiddin Yassin becomes the prime minister of Malaysia following a political crisis triggered by former prime minister Mahathir Mohamad's abrupt resignation. (Post)
News source(s): Channel NewsAsia, MSN, The Straits Times, CNBC, AP
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Nominator's comments: Noteworthy ongoing political event in a fairly major country. This nomination comes out of the February 24th nomination for Mahathir Mohamad per Masjawad99's suggestion, as this event is broader in scope than the subject of that person. Indefensible (talk) 18:22, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Something "apparently" happening doesn't meet ITN blurb standards. – Sca (talk) 17:42, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It is supported by valid references and a significant event though, why doesn't that meet WP:ITN criteria? - Indefensible (talk) 19:11, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Afghan peace process

Articles: Afghan peace process (talk · history · tag) and War in Afghanistan (2001–present) (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The United States and the Taliban sign a peace agreement which establishes a framework for ending the War in Afghanistan. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ The United States surrenders to the Taliban in Afghanistan
Alternative blurb II: ​ The United States and the Taliban sign a peace agreement to end the War in Afghanistan, removing all U.S. and allied troops in 14 months.
News source(s): BBC
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Agree with 331.
Much RS coverage, but is agreeing to end the war the same as ending it? – Sca (talk) 14:40, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Vox too, local Afghans complaining it's a surrender. I doubt you're going to get the Trump white house to say it. --LaserLegs (talk) 14:43, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Local Afghans are not RS. 331dot (talk) 15:09, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

February 28

February 28, 2020 (2020-02-28) (Friday)
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(Ready) RD: Joe Coulombe

Article: Joe Coulombe (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Guardian
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Founder of Trader Joe's. Short but seemed to be sufficiently sourced. Masem (t) 18:08, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Coronavirus stock market crash

Articles: 2019–20 coronavirus outbreak (talk · history · tag) and List of largest daily changes in the Dow Jones Industrial Average (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ In the wake of the coronavirus pandemic, the Dow Jones closed with the biggest weekly percentage loss since the financial crisis of 2007–08. (Post)
News source(s): Wall Street Journal, New York Times
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Nominator's comments: As sad as the events are, the blubr connects to ongoing major news topics. bender235 (talk) 20:18, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@WaltCip: Panic or not, it's a current event. We're not in the WP:CRYSTAL business, so whether the market recovers in a month or a year from now is irrelevant. --bender235 (talk) 20:40, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Look, I don't disagree that we should post something. I just think the DJIA is a poor indicator because that darn thing goes up and down regardless of what's in the news. If we're going to post a blurb on coronavirus using economic indicators, we should use something other than that.--WaltCip (talk) 20:41, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
We don't need to focus on the Dow Jones. Global markets have been massacred this week. It's fact, whether its panic or not. As I said, when we have our first US victim, things will be very differently perceived. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 20:43, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It is currently noteworthy as a ~10% correction by definition, but just going back to last October's level is not a "massacre." - Indefensible (talk) 04:12, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
In essence, that is my viewpoint as well. HiLo phrased it better than I could.--WaltCip (talk) 23:02, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I understand the desire to have something, but everything involving the outbreak remains an upward trend, and no critical line has been crossed yet (not declare pandemic, etc.) and choosing something arbitrary like a drop like this may be the wrong thing to focus on. We have the outbreak on ongoing, so to try to find some story to make it a blurb doesn't seem right. I want to stress that I believe we need to consider the fear and panic that the media is bringing to the situation here. the WHO earlier today say that not's not the time to spread fear on the matter and I think that's smart advice. Wait for MEDRS sourcing to panic and then we have every right to. --Masem (t) 23:31, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - The first article, 2019-20 coronavirus outbreak, is already in the ITN box as an ongoing event, posting it again would be redundant and not a good use of the space. For the second item; the DJIA is not the best stock index to follow per the current 2nd sentence of its article, and the submitted article is a list page rather than specifically about the event--it could be that at some point in the distant future, this event will not even be actively included on that page. - Indefensible (talk) 04:06, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support irrational or not, this drop is the largest since the Financial Crisis - it's clearly not something that happens every other week and has elicited significant policy responses. Practically every RS links this to the coronavirus outbreak and for us to say it isn't would be improper. Juxlos (talk) 13:02, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
IF we post this, we could say that "Practically every RS links this to the coronavirus outbreak", but we cannot say, in Wikipedia's voice, that it is linked. HiLo48 (talk) 23:08, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It's all a big coincidence. Smoking doesn't really kill people, etc. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:20, 29 February 2020 (UTC) [reply]
Have we posted that Trump caused the stock market to go up? Because he and all the people who voted for him said he did. HiLo48 (talk) 02:30, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Looking forward to that nomination. We'd need to count the !votes carefully. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:26, 1 March 2020 (UTC) [reply]

(Posted) RD: Freeman Dyson

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Article: Freeman Dyson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [2]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: A number of citation neededs in the lede, which may be removable b/c the views tagged are referenced in the body. Awards need sourcing, Possible blurb candidate. Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 17:32, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Sun Yang

Article: Sun Yang (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Chinese swimmer Sun Yang, winner of three Olympic and eleven World Championship gold medals, is banned for eight years for evading doping controls. (Post)
News source(s): ABC BBC
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Article updated

 Bumbubookworm (talk) 11:43, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

People may claim that doping in sport is routine, however this fellow has been World Swimmer of the Year and none of the top swimmers have been convicted of doping. At first FINA didn't want to pursue the case and other swimmers made public podium protests against Sun Yang. Secondly, there also has been a geopolitical angle in this, whereby other swimmers (and their swimming federations) who have spoken out against this fellow have been targeted by internet trolls/hackers (possibly/probably with the encouragement of the Chinese media/government) and received death threats. For example, when Mack Horton spoke out, Chinese government newspapers wrote nationalist editorials directly attacking Australia, not just Horton. Bumbubookworm (talk) 11:43, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's swimming, not athletics. HiLo48 (talk) 23:02, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Ah, there's that argument for never posting anything about American college football again. HiLo48 (talk) 23:00, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
His offence of avoiding a drug test is seen as more serious than simply doping. It has to be, otherwise everyone who has used drugs could just smash their samples. HiLo48 (talk) 06:08, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keeping in mind that he had earlier had been found to have doped, and that WADA/CAS had given him 8 yr as the maximum they could do for smashing vials, if he actually had doped, WADA's rules suggest that this 2nd infraction then would have been a lifetime ban. If it were a first, it would have been only a 2yr. --Masem (t) 07:20, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

February 27

February 27, 2020 (2020-02-27) (Thursday)
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2020 Balyun airstrikes

Article: 2020 Balyun airstrikes (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Airstrikes kill at least thirty Turkish soldiers in Balyun, Syria. (Post)
News source(s): (BBC) (Spiegel)
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 ArionEstar (talk) 00:44, 1 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Burkhard Driest

Article: Burkhard Driest (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Die Zeit
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Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: A life good for a for a film, law studies and bank robbery, flirt on live tv with Romy Schneider, playing gangsters with charme, writing novels and screenplays, directing, - art also. - The article had one sentence, then Grozzi updated, then a new user replaced it all by a literal unformatted translation of the German WP article ... - I tried to repair and added a few sources. There's much more, in case someone wants to expand. Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:27, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Comment Having a (hopefully) temporary brain lapse, but isn't there a small waiting period after death before fair use photos can be uploaded? Should it be tagged F7? Otherwise the article looks good enough for RD. Kees08 (Talk) 17:54, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - Kees08 is correct, fair use can't be applied to a subject who's died so recently, there could easily be replacement images out there. I've removed the image, and otherwise the article looks up to scratch, so it's good to go.  — Amakuru (talk) 18:11, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted (although noting that the intro said he died February 28th, I changed it to 27 to match the source) Kees08 (Talk) 19:01, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Suthep Wongkamhaeng

Article: Suthep Wongkamhaeng (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Thai PBS World
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Paul_012 (talk) 21:25, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

February 26

February 26, 2020 (2020-02-26) (Wednesday)
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RD: Nexhmije Hoxha

Article: Nexhmije Hoxha (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Alsoriano97 (talk) 12:27, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Another case of fame by name. And she was 99. – Sca (talk) 18:00, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) 2020 CD3

That's no moon. It's a boulder. Consensus will not develop to post. Stephen 22:44, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

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Article: 2020 CD3 (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Astronomers discover 2020 CD3, a mini-moon that has been in Earth's orbit (orbit pictured) since about 2017 and expected to escape orbit by April 2020. (Post)
News source(s): New Scientist, CNN,
Credits:
Nominator's comments: Might be seen more as a curiosity but it is an unusual astronomical discovery. Article is short but in decent shape. Masem (t) 06:17, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

February 25

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  • A man was revealed to have been arrested the previous day for attempting to blow up a car in The Pentagon parking lot. (NBC)
  • Aimee Anne Duffy, a Welsh singer who goes by Duffy, reveals she was raped, drugged and held hostage over some days resulting in her disappearance from the limelight in recent years. (The Guardian)

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Henneguya zschokkei

Article: Henneguya zschokkei (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Scientists determine that the multi-cellular parasite Henneguya zschokkei contains no mitochondria, making it the first known animal that does not use aerobic respiration. (Post)
News source(s): PNAS paper, US Today, CNN
Credits:

Article updated

Nominator's comments: Article is short, so there may be a better target as the focus from the coverage of the paper is more on what this means to how we define an animal. Masem (t) 14:22, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

But the name would make a great byline: By HENNEGUYA ZSCHOKKEI / Asocialated Press Writer. – Sca (talk) 18:08, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment stub. --LaserLegs (talk) 15:56, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not read the paper yet, but potentially support on importance (well, I was fascinated) but oppose on stubbiness of the current target article. Also, looking at the lead of mitochondrion, which might be a better target, I notice that there's another example of a eukaryote completely lacking mitochondria, so that would need sorting out. Perhaps "first known multicellular organism"? Espresso Addict (talk) 16:03, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • The way I think Im understanding what they are getting at, a single-cell species is neither animal nor plant, but when you get to multicellular you can make that distinction, with this species above being animal in nature. However, this level of biology is not my field (I nominated this because I also found it interesting for ITN). --Masem (t) 16:08, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • As far as I know (and this has really surprised me) all plants have mitochondria; it's only bacteria/cyanobacteria and things smaller that don't. And thanks for nominating, Masem, I'd missed this and really appreciated it. Espresso Addict (talk) 16:13, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
        • All eukaryotes have mitochondria—except the few species that later went on to lose them—because they're what react oxygen with stuff to power the organism. Eukaryotic cells are much bigger and therefore need lots of energy. Plants have both mitochondria and plastids; the plastids (derived from ancient cyanobacteria) do photosynthesis, and the mitochondria "burn" the resulting molecules as needed, as in any eukaryote. --47.146.63.87 (talk) 05:50, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose mildly interesting but the article is barely even a stub. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 16:12, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on principle, oppose on quality There's room to expand the article given this new discovery, so I think it's possible this will eventually pass. NorthernFalcon (talk) 20:55, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on principle, oppose on quality This is a big deal in biology, but the article is a stub. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 01:05, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as above This is a paradigm-shifting find in biology; we couldn't reasonably pass over a decent article on this and still call ourselves an encyclopedia. It has to be at least a decent article, though...130.233.2.197 (talk) 07:27, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support in principle, but the article is a stub that give no more details than are in the blurb. Major expansion is needed before it could be posted. Modest Genius talk 12:44, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • IANAL zoologist, but isn't there a certain circular reasoning here? Aerobic respiration is a definitive characteristic of animals. If you find an animal without it, is it really an animal? GreatCaesarsGhost 12:53, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • It had been previously classified as an animal. Its anaerobic respiration quality had been discovered only recently.--WaltCip (talk) 21:16, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • Modern taxonomy generally favors phylogenetic taxonomy, meaning classifying things based on their family trees. This means taxonomists today prefer "monophyletic" groups, known as "clades": groups containing a common ancestor and all of its descendants. This provides a definition based on evolutionary relationships and avoids classifying organisms based on arbitrary characteristics. If we define animals as a clade, we pick an ancestral organism and anything descended from that is an animal. (This is why most taxonomists consider birds dinosaurs now. If you define "dinosaur" as a clade, it necessarily includes all the living members of that clade: birds.) --47.146.63.87 (talk) 05:50, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Very cool discovery. I'm ambivalent on it for ITN because while the discovery is great it's not a tremendous surprise. Parasites very often lose lots of functions over time due to natural selection, since they can just "steal" from their hosts instead. Several unicellular eukaryotes that similarly lost their mitochondria were already known. In any case, I'd love to see it on DYK! --47.146.63.87 (talk) 05:50, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Kazuhisa Hashimoto

Article: Kazuhisa Hashimoto (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): WaPost, CNN
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Video game developer, best known for giving us the Konami code. I did just create the article today, but it was possible to have created this article before based on existing sources. Masem (t) 22:05, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Javier Arias Stella

Article: Javier Arias Stella (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): El Comercio (in Spanish)
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Peruvian academic pathologist and foreign minister. I've expanded the lead, and refs look OK for a start class article.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:55, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

RD: Dmitry Yazov

Article: Dmitry Yazov (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Reuters
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: The last marshal of the soviet union and a convicted war criminal --89.113.138.10 (talk) 14:07, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) North East Delhi riots

Article: North East Delhi riots (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ 21 people were killed and more than a hundred and eighty nine are injured as riots break out in North East Delhi amidst the Citizenship Amendment Act protests. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Twenty one people are killed and more than a hundred and eighty nine injured in riots in North East Delhi as part of the Citizenship Amendment Act protests.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Twenty one people are killed with more than 189 injured in riots in North East Delhi as part of the Citizenship Amendment Act protests.
News source(s): NDTV 21 deadBBC, NDTV
Credits:

 --I am not a Seahorse (talk) 13:47, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support I've added a slightly different altblurb to tighten up the language a bit and avoid starting a sentence with a numeral. The article is short, but well written and well referenced, and the subject is being covered by major news sources. Checks every box for me. --Jayron32 14:33, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose when you take out the background filler sections, it's very light on details. Where in Delhi? Was it one large protest or scattered confrontations throughout the city? Total number of participants? Some kind of chronology of events? Way too thin. --LaserLegs (talk) 14:44, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed --⋙–DBigXrayᗙ 16:06, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Masem, I have redirected it as a newly created duplicate to the existing article. The content hardly merits a hist merge. --⋙–DBigXrayᗙ 15:06, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted blurb) RD: Hosni Mubarak

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Article: Hosni Mubarak (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination
Blurb:  Former Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak (pictured) dies at the age of 91. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Surely notable. Article looks fairly well sourced as well. Zwerg Nase (talk) 11:09, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support blurb This is a clear-cut case as he spent 30 years in office as president of the most populous Arab country which now has almost 100 million people. His death is expectedly top-tier news in the media.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 13:07, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Wording comment: Blurb text has him as prime minister. He was, but his period as president was longer and more notable. Moscow Mule (talk) 14:13, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Hook amended. — RAVENPVFF · talk · 14:19, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support RD only, oppose blurb article is of sufficient condition for main page posting. The article has nothing interesting to say about his death other than it happened, as such, there is nothing to say in the blurb to justify it. RD is sufficient for deaths where there is nothing to say other than that it happened. --Jayron32 14:35, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb once improved Obviously can't post either RD/blurb right now, too many CNs, but once cleared up, posting the death of a former long-term leader of a major country as a blurb is a no-brainer. --Masem (t) 14:42, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb once referencing is fixed. On the contrary to Amakuru's opinion, being forced out of office after 30+ years by some 2 million+ strong in Cairo's Tahrir Square, in an event given a moniker named after its start date ("January 25 Revolution"), is automatically sufficient for a blurb. As to the commonly used Thatcher and Mandela-trope, applying a strict criterion such as "created the political weather" (as Thatcher / Reagan / Mulroney did), which George H.W. Bush did not by any measure, even if his career began as a diplomat in the 1970s (?) and he was part of a political dynasty. CaradhrasAiguo (leave language) 14:43, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb per Jayron, there is nothing to be said other than "dies aged 91", blurbs should be reserved for events where the death itself is the story, per our guidelines. (This is not one of the "rare cases" exceptions in my view.) The article is not yet ready for RD as there are a number of cite tags.-- P-K3 (talk) 14:47, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb A leader of Egypt for three decades (Egypt is basically half of the Arab world), relevant in the recent Arab Spring events, numerous reporting in the media.--Adûnâi (talk) 14:55, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb pending quality, updates, etc. Mubarak meets the Thatcher-Mandela standard. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 15:00, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb – per previous two. An important historical figure (unlike Harvey Weinstein) – Sca (talk) 15:38, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb - 30 years' president of a country of just under 100 million. Seems pretty major to me. Juxlos (talk) 15:54, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support either as RD or with blurb. Notable subject, article looks decent--currently rated B-class. - Indefensible (talk) 16:07, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose blurb because there have a grammatical errors and linguistic problems But i Support posted to RD instead because the article quality and significance for Egyptian politic history. He is also very notable for Middle Eastern politics as whole. 180.242.51.208 (talk) 16:12, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb when the few sourcing problems are fixed. Mubarak was a transformative world leader, per above. Davey2116 (talk) 17:29, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Blurb once the cn's are addressed, important Middle Eastern politician Joseywales1961 (talk) 18:04, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment I added the image to CMP so it can be posted when the cn's are addressed. First time doing it so yell at me if I did it wrong or if it was inappropriate to do this early. Kees08 (Talk) 19:53, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • support blurb - definitely blurb worthy. post when few issues are fixed.BabbaQ (talk) 21:16, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment The "Political and military posts" section is very difficult to source and doesn't add much. Suggest nuking it. --LaserLegs (talk) 22:43, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Done. 7 CN tags are keeping this off the main page. If every support above fixed one, this would be up by now. --LaserLegs (talk) 23:50, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I added 5 more citations; need 2 more. SpencerT•C 02:40, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb - seems obvious, deeply involved in Arab Spring. Banedon (talk) 22:50, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb - Per above. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 23:53, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support photo People remember his face and roles, but he was retired, and retired people dying is unremarkable beyond what the Deaths in 2020 link already covers. The fact that he ruled for three billion man-years until the Arab Spring was notable, so we blurbed it back when. This isn't that. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:10, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Strong support as one of the most important leaders in the Arab world for decades. He should definitely be listed under recent deaths and it's bizarre he hasn't been already. Blurb and photo? Maybe not as much but he's easily comparable to Qaddafi or Al-Assad in terms of stature & length of rule.Chess (talk) Ping when replying 06:38, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on quality, neutral on blurb. Article is getting pretty close, and editors appear to be fixing the remaining issues fairly quickly, but it's not ready for the front page just yet, for either RD or blurb, as there's still a few outstanding tags, and there's a few sentences here and there at the ends of paragraphs that are unreferenced. NorthernFalcon (talk) 06:40, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • RD only Did not died at height of career, death was expected (hospital bound for weeks prior), death has little effect on current events, not a transformational figure. Arguments here rely on that last notion, but "lifetime strongman in Africa/Middle East" is not exactly an unheard of accomplishment. Sadat was transformative, Morsi might have been, but Mubarak and Sisi are just continuing a long line of tradition for that part of the world.130.233.2.197 (talk) 06:43, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support blurb – I took care of the last few CNs. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 08:24, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Posted blurb. I see a consensus for a blurb, though not universal. 331dot (talk) 08:50, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I see consensus for acknowledging his long reign and widely-reported overthrow were historic, but nobody seems to think the fact in the blurb (died at 91) matters on its own merits. InedibleHulk (talk) 09:24, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Readers can read the article(which is what we want) to learn that he was a long time overthrown leader, it doesn't need to be in the blurb. 331dot (talk) 09:27, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If you want dead retired politicians to pick up steam, you have to entice new readers with something memorable, a hook. Plenty were suggested, none made it. Odd, I think. InedibleHulk (talk) 09:37, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I still Support photo, regardless of the newer Delhi riots. He's more visually appealing than they are. And no, that's not a fascist bias, it's just the thing about a welcoming smile. Even coming from "beyond the grave", it's inherently warmer and more comforting than the mass personification of rage and despair. InedibleHulk (talk) 10:26, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - InedibleHulk has suggested at WP:ERRORS that we could note the length of Mubarak's presidency in the blurb, as a way of asserting the significance of his death, for example:
    • Hosni Mubarak (pictured), Egyptian president from 1981 to 2011, dies at the age of 91.
    I know this wouldn't be the usual formulation (as per the death of George HW Bush) but something to consider, and I am neutral on whether this is better or worse than what is currently there.  — Amakuru (talk) 11:57, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If "former president" isn't enough of a hook, I don't see how adding the years of his term helps. 331dot (talk) 17:47, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I tend to agree with 331dot. If some readers can't immediately recognise someone's significance, the bolded link directs to the article for more information. We don't need to post blurbs indicating significance when we have this page to evaluate it.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 20:11, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
"Former president" isn't a hook at all, potentially describing several unblurbworthy people just as well. Eight supporters found the long term the main point of interest, and none were excited about his age. If newsworthy aspects of a news story don't matter so much as giving readers a name to click, this could have just as easily been as uninteresting and clickable in RD. But whatever. Boring and scant lines aren't as bad as incorrect ones, at least. This occured "in Cairo," if anybody finds settings brief and cool. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:53, 27 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
This is a clear example of why the RD-blurb criteria exists, and a clear indication that Mubarak doesn't qualify. But if we want to pretend that there was anything unusual about Mubarak's life or death, relative to his peers, then length of term is the only one. "ME/NA strongman" is a crowded field, but only a few make it to 30 years.130.233.2.197 (talk) 06:54, 28 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Bob Iger

(non-admin closure) Consensus to post will not develop. --- C&C (Coffeeandcrumbs) 08:50, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Bob Iger (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Bob Iger (pictured) steps down as CEO of The Walt Disney Company, and is succeeded by Bob Chapek, former chairman of Disney Parks, Experiences and Products. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Bob Iger (pictured) steps down as CEO of The Walt Disney Company, and is succeeded by Bob Chapek.
News source(s): [4]
Credits:
Nominator's comments: Given that Disney is one of the most well-known and profitable media conglomerates in the world, I believe that this news is significant enough for inclusion on the front page. (Also hey, my first ITN nomination. Hi, mom!) AlexKitfox (talk) 00:39, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as nominator. AlexKitfox (talk) 00:44, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose We don't post run-of-the-mill business news, even when the business is one of the largest in the world. If there was some significant reason for his step down (eg was arrested on criminal charges) then maybe but this is a standard transition. --Masem (t) 00:50, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • I don't view this as run-of-the-mill business news in the slightest, or I wouldn't even have nominated this article. Iger presided over Disney as it made major acquisitions (including 21st Century Fox, PIXAR, and Marvel Entertainment for instance), produced some of the most profitable films of all time, and saw a record-breaking increase in wealth. Saying this news is "run-of-the-mill" requires some stretching of logic. AlexKitfox (talk) 01:01, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      If the story was about him leading Disney, those feats would matter a lot. But it's about him leaving the top office now, for (seemingly) far less interesting or exceptional reasons. Has the new, unpictured Big Bob done anything to suggest the corporate future on his watch will be substantially different? InedibleHulk (talk) 04:25, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I thank the nominator for his good-faith nomination and encourage him to do more ITN nominations in the future, but this is still ultimately business news that is inappropriate for ITN. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 01:20, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Good faith nom but this doesn't rise to the level that we typically deal with on ITN. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:37, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - This is included in WP:Current events but not sure it rises to the level of significance to be included in ITN. For example, contemporaneous to Iger's resignation as Disney CEO in Current events is Thomson Reuters appointing a new CEO, but that is not similarly nominated or posted. Even if Iger's resignation is unexpected, there may be no greater meaning or noteworthy consideration beyond that. However, if some significant reason does come up, then it may be worth posting. - Indefensible (talk) 04:26, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose on notability: standard business news.  Nixinova   T   C   05:32, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose with regret, because I'd really like more business news on ITN. However, apart from the timing of leave, there's nothing "noteworthy" about this. All CEOs of medium-or-larger corporations preside over various initiatives, acquisitions, etc. Chairmanship can end in death (would qualify for an RD blurb), ousting (could qualify depending on circumstance) or leaving (which is mundane and not notable). There is of course something going on at DIS which is not being told, but without RS coverage we've nothing to found our "noteworthy" arguments upon.130.233.2.197 (talk) 06:36, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose person replaces person in business is not ITN-worthy. The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 06:59, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose but with thanks for the nomination. I think there would need to be some controversy behind the change or the individual was forced out. 331dot (talk) 08:27, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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February 24

February 24, 2020 (2020-02-24) (Monday)
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RD: Clive Cussler

Article: Clive Cussler (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): BBC News
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Author or co-author of around 80 novels, which have sold more than 100 million copies. He also founded the National Underwater and Marine Agency. JuneGloom07 Talk 17:42, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Diana Serra Cary

Article: Diana Serra Cary (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [5]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Her death is notable as she was the last surviving star of the silent era (a few other child actors are still around, but she was the only real star). It seems quite well-sourced, every section has at least one source. --Clibenfoart (talk) 00:41, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support One CN tag noted but otherwise the article appears to be in decent shape and adequately referenced. -Ad Orientem (talk) 02:51, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, and note that she was indeed a star. That she was a little kid and ridiculously easy to rob shouldn't take away from the fact that she drew over a million bucks, at a time when a million bucks could buy a large swath of Africa (a continent much larger than most flat maps suggest, even today). If the "quotes" weren't meant to mock the magnitude of this "silly widdle baby", sorry for "getting all defensive" about it. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:14, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi InedibleHulk, I wanted to emphasize that she was the last star, because other silent film actors are still around, but they were never stars in the true sense of the word. So there was no harm intended. Greetings, --Clibenfoart (talk) 07:56, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
That makes sense, thanks. I'd have found italics or *stars* a bit clearer, but was only mildly harmed. Barely even knew of her, personally. InedibleHulk (talk) 08:21, 26 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) RD: Olof Thunberg

Article: Olof Thunberg (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): [6]
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 BabbaQ (talk) 21:03, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Posted) Harvey Weinstein convicted

discussion is turning into unnecessary bickering. Consensus is to post. Errors in the article content can be discussed on article talk page. Errors in factual content of the blurb can be reported to WP:ERRORS. --Jayron32 16:50, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Articles: Harvey Weinstein (talk · history · tag) and Harvey Weinstein sexual abuse cases (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ American former film producer Harvey Weinstein is convicted on two charges of rape. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Harvey Weinstein is convicted on one charge of rape and one charge of felony sex crime while acquitted of two charges of predatory sexual assault.
Alternative blurb II: ​ Harvey Weinstein is convicted of rape and a criminal sexual act.
Alternative blurb III: ​ Harvey Weinstein is convicted of two felony sex crimes.
Alternative blurb IV: ​ Harvey Weinstein is convicted on two charges of felony sex crimes while acquitted of two charges of predatory sexual assault.
News source(s): NYT, NBC News
Credits:

Both articles updated
Nominator's comments: Highly publicized trial (especially for its significance to the Me Too movement), with a verdict carrying a sentence of up to 25 years. Davey2116 (talk) 17:49, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
P-K3 why not ? you are supporting the name though. I am for both or nothing.--⋙–DBigXrayᗙ 13:33, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
There's no requirement that the top blurb must be pictured. And I will happily admit to a bias in favour of looking at Katherine Johnson rather than Weinstein for a week.-- P-K3 (talk) 14:31, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
You are hereby condemned to see this pic ⋙–DBigXrayᗙ
Pawnkingthree, In that case I propose that you as well as Wikipedia reading Humanity be forced to see his face like Clockwork Orange as long as possible, so that we may not have another Weinstein. ⋙–DBigXrayᗙ 14:35, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
GreatCaesarsGhost, lets not be hypocrites. Lets not introduce personal BIAS here. If you find it suitable to blurb him, it must have his picture. If a new blurb comes, his pic can be replaced, not until then. ⋙–DBigXrayᗙ 14:11, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Please read more carefully - that's exactly what I just said. GreatCaesarsGhost 15:54, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Where's Trick when we finally need him? – Sca (talk) 16:01, 25 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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(Posted) RD: Katherine Johnson

Article: Katherine Johnson (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/obituaries/katherine-johnson-hidden-figure-at-nasa-during-1960s-space-race-dies-at-101/2020/02/24/fd5058ba-5715-11ea-9000-f3cffee23036_story.html
Credits:

Article updated
Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

Nominator's comments: Article looks to be in good shape. Not personally convinced this rises to the level of a blurb but could see the argument for it. Sam Walton (talk) 14:44, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Coronavirus outbreaks occur in South Korea, Japan, and Italy

Closing this as it "isn't notable". NoahTalk 14:55, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: 2019–20 coronavirus outbreak (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Coronavirus outbreaks occur in Italy, South Korea, and Japan, infecting over 1,300 people. (Post)
News source(s): https://bnonews.com/index.php/2020/02/the-latest-coronavirus-cases/
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: I know this is ongoing, but these are the first major outbreaks of cases outside of China. Based upon the 4% drop in markets in Europe and US stock futures, it certainly seems to be garnering significant attention. NoahTalk 13:30, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose There's no special factor of these cases in S. Korea or Italy as to reblurb the outbreak. It already had been spread well beyond China already. It is similar here to climate change, and only want to make to blurb stories where there has been massive change. If, for example, WHO reclassifies this to a pandemic, then that calls for a blurb. --Masem (t) 14:15, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Yeah, but not to the extent of a thousand+ being infected. It was pockets of double digits in countries. All the news sources are screaming pandemic. I would say thousands of cases outside China is quite a change. NoahTalk 14:20, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • South Korea has almost 1000... I see no reason not to blurb that the virus is rapidly spreading in places outside of China since it hasnt been done thus far. NoahTalk 14:26, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    Well ITN is not a news ticker, and there is no requirement to blurb every development on every single story. The coronavirus is clearly a major deal - the likely overall mortality rate of at least 2% and the potential for global spread makes it more worrying than the winter flu cases mentioned above - but probably we should wait for a more major development before re-blurbing.  — Amakuru (talk) 14:34, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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RD: Kiki Dimoula

Article: Kiki Dimoula (talk · history · tag)
Recent deaths nomination (Post)
News source(s): Ekathimerini
Credits:

Recent deaths of any person, animal or organism with a Wikipedia article are always presumed to be important enough to post (see this RFC and further discussion). Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article meets WP:ITNRD.

 Alsoriano97 (talk) 12:06, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

(Closed) Sardar Patel Stadium

Consensus to post this likely will not develop. --Jayron32 15:05, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Article: Sardar Patel Stadium (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ US President Donald Trump on his first Presidential trip to India, officially opens the Sardar Patel Stadium which is now regarded as the largest cricket stadium in the world. (Post)
Alternative blurb: ​ Sardar Patel Stadium officially opened by US President Donald Trump as the world's largest cricket stadium with a seating capacity of over 110, 000
Alternative blurb II: ​ Sardar Patel Stadium, the world's largest cricket stadium and second-largest overall with 110,000 seating capacity, is inaugurated in Motera, India.
News source(s): Al Jazeera, Reuters, BBC
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: This is quite significant as the stadium is also now regarded as the second largest sports stadium ever in the world in terms of seating capacity. Abishe (talk) 05:10, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Second-largest stadium is second-largest and thus not record-breaking. Even on this, I would oppose the blurb focusing on Trump, just announced that the second-larget stadium by seating was opened, there is no need to make this potentially political. --Masem (t) 05:17, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
It's the biggest cricket stadium. HiLo48 (talk) 05:19, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Purpose is irrelevant, though I would make a distinction if we were talking between indoor and outdoor stadiums from an architectural standpoint. --Masem (t) 05:28, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hardly irrelevant. You can't even play serious cricket on most soccer grounds, and soccer fans don't like watching their game on big, wide cricket grounds. Note that we are talking of the two most popular sports in the world here. HiLo48 (talk) 05:55, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Not irrelevant but not necessarily significant enough to be posted either. Undecided on this one currently though. - Indefensible (talk) 06:05, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If the key factor is "largest", then it is an architectural facet , not a sporting one, to figure out the way to support that many seat, though the sport itself is going to partially dictate why they need that many seats (eg , there's a reason why several of the largest ones are American college football) --Masem (t) 06:10, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose/Comment The building (and perhaps the opening) of the stadium is the news here, not the fact that Trump opened it. Stadiums are noted for their size, tenants, location, and many other things, but never for who opens them. HiLo48 (talk) 05:18, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Change Alternative Blurb II to say opened rather than inaugurated, and I will support it. HiLo48 (talk) 05:52, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Mahathir Mohamad

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Article: Mahathir Mohamad (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Malaysian prime minister Mahathir Mohamad submits his resignation to the king after 2 years in office. (Post)
News source(s): CNN Prime Minister's Office of Malaysia AFP Guardian
Credits:

Nominator's comments: A prime minister resigning should be notable enough to be front-page news. (Correct me if I'm wrong) Nahnah4 (talk

  • Oppose For as long as the target is, I can't find an update in the suitable section (Second term as prime minister). Updates to the infobox and lede are lacking in detail. I am therefore unconvinced that this resigning is any more impactful or notable than any other.130.233.2.197 (talk) 08:53, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment A change in PM is not always notable outside of a general election, mostly when the incoming PM is of the same party and policies are not expected to change(don't know if that's the case here). 331dot (talk) 09:28, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment "The Prime Minister of Malaysia is the head of government and the highest political office in Malaysia. The prime minister leads the executive branch of the federal government.". We really need to get over this inane head of state vs head of government fixation. I'll change to full supprot if I have a chance to read the target before the nom is SNOW closed. --LaserLegs (talk) 10:15, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment - has the change of leader actually taken place yet? I suggest we wait to post this until it's known who is successor is, and the reins of power are handed over. Then we can mention both of them in one story.  — Amakuru (talk) 12:06, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Seems he's the interim prime minister while a new government is formed. Banedon (talk) 12:34, 24 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

February 23

February 23, 2020 (2020-02-23) (Sunday)
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