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[edit]Greetings, I saw your edit to Reading, Pennsylvania and noticed your interests. "We" are always looking for editors at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history. Please drop by and take a look.--Georgia Army VetContribsTalk 19:37, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
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2017 Military Historian of the Year and Newcomer of the Year nominations and voting
[edit]As we approach the end of the year, the Military History project is looking to recognise editors who have made a real difference. Each year we do this by bestowing two awards: the Military Historian of the Year and the Military History Newcomer of the Year. The co-ordinators invite all project members to get involved by nominating any editor they feel merits recognition for their contributions to the project. Nominations for both awards are open between 00:01 on 2 December 2017 and 23:59 on 15 December 2017. After this, a 14-day voting period will follow commencing at 00:01 on 16 December 2017. Nominations and voting will take place on the main project talkpage: here and here. Thank you for your time. For the co-ordinators, MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 08:35, 8 December 2017 (UTC)
User group for Military Historians
[edit]Greetings,
"Military history" is one of the most important subjects when speak of sum of all human knowledge. To support contributors interested in the area over various language Wikipedias, we intend to form a user group. It also provides a platform to share the best practices between military historians, and various military related projects on Wikipedias. An initial discussion was has been done between the coordinators and members of WikiProject Military History on English Wikipedia. Now this discussion has been taken to Meta-Wiki. Contributors intrested in the area of military history are requested to share their feedback and give suggestions at Talk:Discussion to incubate a user group for Wikipedia Military Historians.
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April 2018 Milhist Backlog Drive
[edit]G'day all, please be advised that throughout April 2018 the Military history Wikiproject is running its annual backlog elimination drive. This will focus on several key areas:
- tagging and assessing articles that fall within the project's scope
- adding or improving listed resources on Milhist's task force pages
- updating the open tasks template on Milhist's task force pages
- creating articles that are listed as "requested" on the project's various lists of missing articles.
As with past Milhist drives, there are points awarded for working on articles in the targeted areas, with barnstars being awarded at the end for different levels of achievement.
The drive is open to all Wikipedians, not just members of the Military history project, although only work on articles that fall (broadly) within the scope of military history will be considered eligible. This year, the Military history project would like to extend a specific welcome to members of Wikipedia:WikiProject Women in Red, and we would like to encourage all participants to consider working on helping to improve our coverage of women in the military. This is not the sole focus of the edit-a-thon, though, and there are aspects that hopefully will appeal to pretty much everyone.
The drive starts at 00:01 UTC on 1 April and runs until 23:59 UTC on 30 April 2018. Those interested in participating can sign up here.
For the Milhist co-ordinators, AustralianRupert and MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 10:53, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
Women in Red
[edit]Hi there, 47thPennVols, and welcome to Women in Red. It's good to have a new member interested in military history. Let me know if ever you need any help or experience any problems. You are of course also welcome to contribute to our WiR talk page. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 06:14, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
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April 2018
[edit] Welcome to Wikipedia. I noticed that your username, "47thPennVols", may not meet Wikipedia's username policy because it appears to represent a group rather than an individual person. Shared accounts are not permitted. If you believe that your username does not violate our policy, please leave a note here explaining why. As an alternative, you may ask for a change of username by completing this form, or you may simply create a new account for editing. Thank you. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 15:28, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Diannaa: Thanks so much for reaching out and for the welcome. I've actually been a member of Wikipedia since October 2015, and have had the same username since that time. My username does not represent a group, nor is it a shared account. I chose this username in 2015 in honor of an American Civil War regiment since one of my major areas of research is American Civil War History. So I don't believe that I need to request a change of username since my username doesn't violate Wikipedia policies. Again, many thanks for reaching out. Kind Regards, 47thPennVols (talk) 19:09, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
- Thank for confirming it's not a shared account. That was my main concern. Best, — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 19:58, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
Rehabilitation and reintegration of child soldiers
[edit]@Gog the Mild: You've been such a great help to me that I'm happy to return the favor. (I've attended conferences on child soldiers, and would say you've done an admirable job with a very difficult subject. So, first, thank you. Not many folks would want to write about this very depressing, but important and underreported subject.) Second, I agree with you that it's B-Class, and would happy to re-classify it that way. Before I do, there are a just a few minor formatting things that need to be fixed (see redlink for "comprehensive peace agreement" in South Sudan section, and the items highlighted in red under the Ref List in #4, 17, 30, 32). If you can tweak those and ping me back, I'll reclassify for you tonight. 47thPennVols (talk) 01:19, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
- I think that I have sorted the issues. I couldn't find anything wrong with refs 30 or 32. That red link was the first case sensitive Wikilink I have come across. Thanks for assessing this. It is a big, dense article on an unpleasant topic and I thought that it might sit for some time.
- I stumbled across Children in the military while copy editing for WP:GOCE. It was a bloated sprawling 15,000 word mess, but fascinating. And the topic was worthy of better. So I hung around to sort it out. Ably assisted by Fugitive Dave. It was assessed as B class this week.
As part of the tidy up I exported a large amount of text on rehabilitation and reintegration to the already existing but sadly neglected article. I have been meaning to get back to finish sorting it for a while. I had it tagged as only needing a lead writing, which is my excuse for missing the other issues. (I also created History of children in the military to handle some of the text. I ought to sort that out too, but I don't think that I have the time or the stomach for it.)
- Were your attendances at conferences in a professional capacity? Gog the Mild (talk) 08:44, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Gog the Mild: Looks great. Thanks for tweaking the ref list. (I'm even more impressed now that I've heard the background on the article.) I just finished adjusting the article's WikiProject Milhist section on the Talk page. (All of the B-Class criteria are now checked off, and the article classification now reads B-Class.) My conference attendances were as an audience member in both a professional and personal capacity. (In a prior life, I helped to create and manage educational programs for healthcare providers on behalf of a major university. While working on pain management programs, I developed an interest in the potential links between chronic pain and PTSD, which led me to multiple conferences, further reading, etc. At some point along the way, I met Peter Eichstaedt, the author of "First Kill Your Family: Child Soldiers of Uganda and the Lord's Resistance Army," a depressing, but engrossing book, which further fueled my interest and led me to interactions with the late Martina Knee, who was involved for many years with Save Darfur. I then ended up writing about her work for a series of newspaper articles about genocide prevention and response.) But all of that was a few years ago. Again, many thanks for working on this article. Have a great remainder of your weekend! 47thPennVols (talk) 15:45, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
A beer for you!
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I think that you have earned this after slogging through Rehabilitation and reintegration of child soldiers. Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:03, 22 April 2018 (UTC) |
- Thank you! It was my pleasure to help. And again, many thanks for all of the guidance you've provided this month. I'd give you the The Guidance Barnstar for your work on the Rehab article and on Reading Artillerists, etc., but I haven't been able to figure out how to add it to your page. (More coffee is in order before I try to teach myself another new skill this morning.)
April backlog drive
[edit]G'day, just to clarify, unfortunately this one isn't eligible for the backlog drive: [1]. It is, however, eligible for the Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Contest. The relevant part of the backlog drive instructions can be found in Note 6, which says "improvement of stub-class articles (or other articles that already exist in article space prior to the start of the contest) will not attract for points in this contest, although editors are encouraged to enter such contributions in the monthly Milhist writers' contest." Sorry for the confusion. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 06:13, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- @AustralianRupert: I wasn't quite sure where to list the 52nd Pennsylvania article; so, many thanks for the clarification. Have a great week! 47thPennVols (talk) 08:52, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- No worries, in hindsight, I think the drive concept is a bit complex and confusing (which is my fault). I think next time I will recommend a simpler approach, but anyway, live and learn! Take care. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 09:06, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- @AustralianRupert:I'm glad we've had the chance to interact because I've been wanting to thank you for all of your hard work and for the opportunity to participate more actively on Wikipedia. The drive has been a great way for me to do that. Many, many thanks. 47thPennVols (talk) 16:38, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
- No worries, in hindsight, I think the drive concept is a bit complex and confusing (which is my fault). I think next time I will recommend a simpler approach, but anyway, live and learn! Take care. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 09:06, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
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[edit]Thanks for creating Hetty Voûte, 47thPennVols!
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Denise Vernay
[edit]Hi. This is looking good now. I was going to make a couple of suggestions, but if you want to put it up for GAN - I think that it is ready - I can do it formally. There are still a fair number of areas for improvement, but they are mostly superficial. Obviously, if you would rather hang on a while, or not submit it at all, that's your call. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:08, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
- @Gog the Mild: Glad to hear it's looking better, and thank you for offering to put it up for GAN. That would be great. But before we do, I'd welcome hearing what were you thinking re: additional improvements. (I really want to make sure her bio is as good as it can be.) 47thPennVols (talk) 22:24, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, finally got back to this. I will be doing some straight forward copy editing, revert anything you don't like, and using the article talk page to put up some of the comments I would be making if it were a GAN review. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:06, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Gog the Mild: Hi. Thanks for the offer. I think I'm going to ask you to hold off for a week or two. I'm feeling a bit drained by the recent burst of writing for the Women in Red/Milhist Drive, and quite honestly, a little bruised by the issues you were raising with @Cinderella157 re: my self-asssessments. I just need a short break to get my head back into the game. Kind Regards. 47thPennVols (talk) 13:17, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, saw this comment. I think that Gog's comments at my TP were much more about the comp and not about you personally. There are "events" from earlier this year that you are unlikely to be aware of but seen in that different light, Gog's concerns were reasonable, particularly as I was closely involved. I can understand why you might be a little bruised, particularly without having the fuller context. I would hope that you can see past this, as I think that there is great potential for a constructive collaboration. Regards, Cinderella157 (talk) 23:55, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Gog the Mild: Hi. Thanks for the offer. I think I'm going to ask you to hold off for a week or two. I'm feeling a bit drained by the recent burst of writing for the Women in Red/Milhist Drive, and quite honestly, a little bruised by the issues you were raising with @Cinderella157 re: my self-asssessments. I just need a short break to get my head back into the game. Kind Regards. 47thPennVols (talk) 13:17, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
- Hi, finally got back to this. I will be doing some straight forward copy editing, revert anything you don't like, and using the article talk page to put up some of the comments I would be making if it were a GAN review. Gog the Mild (talk) 13:06, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
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April's MilHist comp
[edit]Hi, I am one of the MilHist coords and I checked your entries for this month's comp. Just a note of "good form", while B-class is an individual assessment, it is done by an independent editor (see Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Requests. In checking your entries, I did a cursory check of each of the articles you self assessed, against the criteria, and was moderately satisfied that the assessment was warranted but this might reasonably be contested by other contestants (@User:AustralianRupert?). Regards, Cinderella157 (talk) 10:53, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
- @Cinderella157: Thank you for reaching out. Although I've been writing articles for Wikipedia on and off since 2015, I'm still relatively new to the system of classification and assessment. (The April 2018 Military history backlog drive was, in fact, my first real exposure to it so I'm still learning all of the ins and outs.) I believe that my assessments actually did follow the standard. My articles re: Evelyn Tucker, Denise Vernay, and the Reading Artillerists were all independently assessed by other Milhist members earlier on in the process as B-Class, and Mathilde Verspyck and Yvonne Chollet were just assessed by @User:AustralianRupert as B-Class. (I had planned on submitting the others for independent assessment as well, but was waiting on the assessments for Verspyck and Chollet to be completed because I didn't want to monopolize the time of my fellow Milhist members by submitting too many articles for independent assessment at the same time.) Regarding my self-assessments of the other articles (Tillie Pierce, Paulette Duhalde, Hetty Voûte, Ina Boekbinder, Willemiena Bouwman, Gerritdina Benders-Letteboer, and Riet van Grunsven): Each was asssessed by me as only being C-Class (which you can still see when you view the "Edit Source" text). When I self-assessed those articles against the B-Class standards (which I did based on my understanding of the self-assessment guidelines, which state that "Editors can self-assess articles against the five B-class criteria"), the template changed the rating to B-Class on the "Read" tab (but still left my self-assessment as C-Class on the "Edit Source" text). So I did only self-assess each of those as C-Class. (If there were any issues of "form," they weren't intentional; they were technical - due to the Milhist template.) 47thPennVols (talk) 11:46, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
- Your intent wasn't clear (to me) but I did WP:AGF. It would have (perhaps) been better to assess them to C-class without checking the B-class criteria off with a note on the TP by way of explanation. Nonetheless, I think that congratulations are due. I don't think that they will be contested but it might depend on other coords. For my part, I have checked and awarded the points. Regards, Cinderella157 (talk) 23:20, 2 May 2018 (UTC) PS. I intended reaching out to you (above) prior to the discussion at my TP and my post to you would have been similar, if not the same, regardless of that. I did AGF from the start. There has been a misunderstanding of your intention (mine). Your fuller explanation justifies my initial assumption of good faith. While I can appreciate how you feel, I hope we can all get past this since it is essentially a series of miscommunications. Regards, Cinderella157 (talk) 23:04, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
- @47thPenn: G'day, it is an automatic aspect of the template that if you check "yes" for all five criteria it will display as "B class" in read only mode regardless of what is written in the "class=" field. Hence even start class and C-class articles can and do meet aspects of the B-class criteria, but they can't meet all of them (otherwise they would be B-class). Additionally, the template won't display C-class unless certain B class criteria are ticked as yes. By custom within MILHIST we have encouraged editors to seek independent assessment for B class (while allowing self assessment for stub, start and C-class), but it isn't something that is prominently displayed (I think it appears on the contest instructions page, though), so I wouldn't worry too much about it... live and learn as they say! Anyway, thanks for your efforts with those articles. @Cinderella: thanks for your efforts with verifying the entries. Cheers, AustralianRupert (talk) 05:39, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
- Your intent wasn't clear (to me) but I did WP:AGF. It would have (perhaps) been better to assess them to C-class without checking the B-class criteria off with a note on the TP by way of explanation. Nonetheless, I think that congratulations are due. I don't think that they will be contested but it might depend on other coords. For my part, I have checked and awarded the points. Regards, Cinderella157 (talk) 23:20, 2 May 2018 (UTC) PS. I intended reaching out to you (above) prior to the discussion at my TP and my post to you would have been similar, if not the same, regardless of that. I did AGF from the start. There has been a misunderstanding of your intention (mine). Your fuller explanation justifies my initial assumption of good faith. While I can appreciate how you feel, I hope we can all get past this since it is essentially a series of miscommunications. Regards, Cinderella157 (talk) 23:04, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
April 2018 MILHIST Backlog Drive
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On behalf of the Milhist coordinators, you are hereby awarded this barnstar for your efforts during the April 2018 MILHIST Backlog Drive. Thank you for your contributions. AustralianRupert (talk) 09:18, 4 May 2018 (UTC) |
April 2018 Military History Writers' Contest
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On behalf of the Milhist coordinators, I hereby award you the WikiChevrons, for placing first in the April 2018 Military History Article Writing Contest with a total of 75 points from 14 articles. Well done and congratulations, AustralianRupert (talk) 11:06, 4 May 2018 (UTC) |
Mary Parker Converse
[edit]I'm sorry for stepping into your work; I do tend to move quickly when newpage patrolling. Mind if I recommend putting up an {{inuse}} template? I generally find those keep editors out of the way...I use them myself often when I'm editing
And for the record...I haven't used AWB in several days. All of the edits were manual. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 23:26, 5 May 2018 (UTC)
- I sincerely appreciate the apology, @Ser Amantio di Nicolao:. I do feel that I need to respond here, though, because the simple fact of the matter is that your edits were so hasty that I wouldn't have had time to post the inuse tag you recommend. You began your new page patrol and editing at 21:24 today just 3 minutes after I had first posted the page (at 21:21), and then proceeded to bombard this new page with a series of edits (including three edits at 21:24, two of which used HotCat, and another four edits, which took place literally one second later at 21:25, all of which used HotCat), etc. I use the term "bombard" here not to be unkind, but to convey to you a sense of how it felt to be on the receiving end of your rapid fire edits. As a gentle reminder, Wikipedia's own guidelines recommend that editors, new page patrollers, et. al. "wait at least 15 minutes to give time to the creator to add content," adding, "Care should be exercised when reviewing very new pages. Tagging anything other than attack pages, copyvios, vandalism or complete nonsense only a few minutes after creation may stop the creation of a good faith article and drive away a new contributor." You came very close to doing that today with me. So, with respect, I suggest that, whether you're using a bot or performing your edits manually, that you may wish to: a.) give article creators more time before you begin to tag or edit, and b.) consolidate your edits and/or slow down your pace once you do begin so that article creators aren't feeling overwhelmed by your efforts to help. Kind Regards. 47thPennVols (talk) 01:12, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
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[edit]Thanks for creating Yvonne Chollet, 47thPennVols!
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American Civil War
[edit]Since you know more about the American Civil War. Are you prepared to clean up each state and disregard any "useless" information. I'm referring to the both as a "Category" and "List". You know I'm frustrated with it all and you'll list ALL Companies, Battalions and Regiments as redlinks so other users know what is not created. Adamdaley (talk) 07:16, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
- If you and me can come up with a list of ALL of the Regiments etc, then we can see where we can start. I'm going to bed, 9:30 pm here. Adamdaley (talk) 11:27, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
- I've come to you to show you that I've typed out most of the Regiments from Dyer that can be viewed from a subpage. The question I have for the Alabama Union regiments. Would it be like 1st Regiment Alabama Siege Artillery (African Descent)? If so could you show me to right way? I've got 2 done from Illinois because on the National Park Service they have the names. Adamdaley (talk) 09:27, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for reaching out, Adam. As a native Pennsylvanian, I'm more familiar with the history of Pennsylvania's volunteer regiments, emergency militia units, etc. than the regiments which were raised by Alabama, but because I've done a fair amount of Civil War research in general, my recommendation would be to always check with the state archives for any state you're researching (in addition to using the resources of the U.S. National Archives and U.S. National Park Service). I realize that it's time consuming to do this, but I've found that personnel at the individual state archives facilities across America are very knowledgeable about the tiniest details regarding their respective state histories, and are generally happy to help fellow researchers because they want to see those state histories presented correctly.
- I went ahead and did a quick search of the website for the Alabama Department of Archives and History, and found that the State of Alabama's archives division has a really wonderful website. Although it doesn't appear that staff have digitized all of their Civil War-related records, they have posted a great deal of helpful content online here, and have a searchable online soldier's database similar to the U.S. National Park Service's Soldiers' and Sailors Dbase online (and to Pennsylvania's Civil War Veterans's Card File). The access page for that Alabama database provides links to Willis Brewer's Brief Historical Sketches of Military Organizations Raised In Alabama During the Civil War and Confederate military unit histories, which may be of help since you're researching multiple regiments from Alabama. (The second of those two links takes you to digitized copies of actual correspondence written by members of various Confederate regiments during the Civil War. So, you might find some really fascinating data there to include in your individual regimental histories.) In addition there are links to the Muster Rolls of Alabama Civil War units and Militia and Home Guard units. (Although the muster rolls don't appear to have been digitized, these two pages do show the naming conventions used by the state archives for Alabama's Civil War-era military units.)
- The other thing you might try doing is to reach out directly to a staff member of the state archives, and ask for guidance. If I were working on an ambitious project like yours, I'd start by emailing the director of the Archives Division, Mary Jo Scott (maryjo.scott (at) archives.alabama.gov) to explain your project and ask for guidance. Explain that you're located quite a distance away (so visiting the archives in Alabama isn't an option for you right now), describe your project clearly, but briefly (that you're working on creating a comprehensive list of all of Alabama's Civil War-era regiments, and are trying to ensure its accuracy by listing the correct titles for each regiment), and ask if the archives has a finding aid which lists all of the Alabama regiments (that she could direct you to online or send to you in PDF format). Hopefully, she'll have something she can just point you to online or can email to you, but if not, I'd then ask her if she or one of her staff could provide you with guidance regarding the best way to name the individual regiments. (Maybe even ask her which source(s) they used to create their naming convention?) Hope this helps. It actually looks like Alabama has a wealth of information that could help you do a really great job for Wikipedia. Kind Regards. 47thPennVols (talk) 13:39, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- I found the 1st Regiment Alabama Siege Artillery (African Descent) here at NPS [2] – It indeed change designation to the 6th U.S. Colored Heavy Artillery in March 1864 and it changed again in April 1864 to the 7th U.S. Colored Heavy Artillery then in January 1865 it changes again to the 11th U.S. Colored Infantry (New Organization). As for the other Alabama I've not search those. Adamdaley (talk) 03:48, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
- The other thing you might try doing is to reach out directly to a staff member of the state archives, and ask for guidance. If I were working on an ambitious project like yours, I'd start by emailing the director of the Archives Division, Mary Jo Scott (maryjo.scott (at) archives.alabama.gov) to explain your project and ask for guidance. Explain that you're located quite a distance away (so visiting the archives in Alabama isn't an option for you right now), describe your project clearly, but briefly (that you're working on creating a comprehensive list of all of Alabama's Civil War-era regiments, and are trying to ensure its accuracy by listing the correct titles for each regiment), and ask if the archives has a finding aid which lists all of the Alabama regiments (that she could direct you to online or send to you in PDF format). Hopefully, she'll have something she can just point you to online or can email to you, but if not, I'd then ask her if she or one of her staff could provide you with guidance regarding the best way to name the individual regiments. (Maybe even ask her which source(s) they used to create their naming convention?) Hope this helps. It actually looks like Alabama has a wealth of information that could help you do a really great job for Wikipedia. Kind Regards. 47thPennVols (talk) 13:39, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
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Your GA nomination of William Henry Egle
[edit]Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article William Henry Egle you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gog the Mild -- Gog the Mild (talk) 09:41, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
Greetings. Thank you for your thanks for the hyphens edit. I haven't actually reread the article yet, but I have done most of the fussy GAN bits, which flagged up a couple of minor actions for you. I shall try to get back to a proper look at the prose and/or references later today. Gog the Mild (talk) 10:12, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for agreeing to perform the review. I was just re-reading the lead, and noticed that I'd omitted a word ("documented") in the revised version I did yesterday. So, I just fixed that particular spot because it was bugging me. But, I'll hold off on any further tweaks so that you can do what you need to do. Again, many thanks. 47thPennVols (talk) 10:26, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of William Henry Egle
[edit]The article William Henry Egle you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:William Henry Egle for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gog the Mild -- Gog the Mild (talk) 08:41, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
I am minded to assess this as B class. What do you think? Kges wants it in a hurry because the deadline for contest entries is 2400 UTC. Gog the Mild (talk) 21:53, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Gog the Mild: I'm a little concerned because it has seemed, at times this month, that the quantity of the articles posted is more important than the quality. (Several reviewers have used the word "barely" or similar adjectives to qualify their B-class reviews of articles submitted for assessment by at least two different editors in July.) In one instance, KGES stated that there was little to no information available about the Pennsylvania regiment he was profiling - even going so far as to state that there were "no" (his word) Harrisburg newspaper articles about the regiment, which was incorrect. (I did a quick search, turned up several, and let him know, which he thanked me for and then incorporated.) So, I'm a little concerned by his claim that there is "no" (again his word) source for info on the complement for the 207th Pennsylvania. (One would think the original registers for the 207th which are digitized and available on the website of the Pennsylvania State Archives might be helpful in this regard if nothing else exists, but going through those might be too time-consuming a task.) That being said, he has been responsive to other requests from me to improve other submissions, including one that initially had only three references. Adding to my concerns at this point, there have been a couple of comments by several editors on the Mihilst assessment board recently that seem to discount the service of regiments which served on garrison duty (as if having not been "under fire" has made their service less important and/or not noteworthy enough to merit articles about those regiments). I just wish I didn't feel as if so many of the articles about Pennsylvania's Civil War regiments are being given less effort than they deserve right now. (P.S. I just found another source which will add a citation to the 207th Pennsylvania. So, go ahead and tell KGES that it's B-Class while I add the new data to his article for him.) Thanks. Kind Regards. 47thPennVols (talk) 22:54, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
- I am inclined to agree with you. I think that Kges has the bit between his teeth and scents a first place - I know that feeling and sympathise. I suspect that this is, as you suspect, causing him to churn out items without giving them the time and effort they should really have. Hopefully he will revert to his more thorough self after 2400.
- Can I suggest that, clearly being more conversant with the period and conflict, you try to assess all of his ACW articles - obviously not as an obligation, if you are busy, he creates a silly number, etc. Including this one, please. And perhaps gently give other editors who assess them a similar message to this one. Your assessing seems perfectly reasonable and flexible to me, but should be knowledgeable enough to keep Kges on the straight and narrow. Gog the Mild (talk) 23:13, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
- About the complement, there really is no sourced number that wouldn't be OR (I do not trust my counting abilities enough to total up all of the names on the regimental roster). The only reason that I was able to cite complement numbers for the Philadelphia regiments was because the original source (Taylor) probably counted up the number of names on the muster roll. As for the Harrisburg, I was wrong about it, but I was not aware of the PSU archive at the time. On newspapers.com there were no Harrisburg newspapers available for the period - their archives of the Harrisburg Telegraph began after the end of the war. I admit that I rushed too much this contest, and anyway it turns out to have been irrelevant since I am too far off from 1st place this time, after finally doing the math. Kges1901 (talk) 23:29, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
- @Kges1901: Aw, that's a shame. After you left me in the dirt I was hoping that you would take first place. I assume that Parsecboy has it with all of those Imperial German ships? I suspected that it was close and was trying to help by assessing your last minute submissions before the deadline. But after reading 47thPennVols' interjections I realise that I was out of my depth. I was, as you can see, trying to encourage them to take a lead role in ACW assessing as they are clearly knowledgeable in the area. In fact, 47th, have you assessed any GANs yet. Perhaps you should consider it, if only as QPQ for the GA you now have? Gog the Mild (talk) 00:10, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
- Re Peacemaker, I think that he is simply concerned with notability and has nothing specific against 30 day regiments. Of course, he may suspect that a unit which only existed for 30 days is less likely to be notable than one which served for 4 years but if they meet the policy guidelines I am sure that he will treat them fairly. Gog the Mild (talk) 00:10, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
Ruth E. Hodge. great article!
[edit]I enjoyed reading about Hodge's life and work. Great research! MauraWen (talk) 10:06, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
- @MauraWen: Thanks so much for your kind words. I'm glad you enjoyed learning more about her, and hope others will as well. I was so pleased to see your article about Julienne Lusenge. She is another of those trailblazers who has shown her community and world that one woman really can make a difference. Best wishes for continued success with your research and writing! 47thPennVols (talk) 16:04, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
- Yes, a great article, but please remember to make redirects from other versions of her name, to help readers to find it and to reduce the risk of some other editor creating a duplicate at a slightly different name. In particular it's important to create Ruth Evelyn Hodge because people are often listed in articles about award recipients etc with their full name; I've also created Ruth Hodge because it's the wikipedia norm (and is used in at least one of your sources), and Ruth Evelyn Perry and a hatnote at Ruth Perry, just in case. PamD 22:09, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Ipigott: Am I required to do multiple redirects and hatnotes for WIR articles? 47thPennVols (talk) 12:02, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- There is certainly no "requirement" to spend a lot of time on redirects and hatnotes. (I rarely spend much time on them myself but as you know, women's names are generally more demanding than men's.) By far the most important task is of course creating the articles themselves. I think PamD has been rather hasty in some of her comments. She seems to have completely overlooked the considerable number of fine articles you have created over the past three years, all with impeccable sourcing. I must say she frequently tries to help people along, offering useful advice and tips, but in this case she wrongly assumed you were a relative newcomer. I have seen how upset you feel about all this on your talk page. I hope nonetheless that given the excellent standard of your work, you will continue to contribute to our Monthly achievements. As far as I can see, up to now no one else has produced B-class articles. Yours should be an inspiration to others. This seems to be the second time I have tried to persuade you to contribute to Women in Red -- hopefully the last. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one to appreciate your recent contributions. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 12:34, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Ipigott: Am I required to do multiple redirects and hatnotes for WIR articles? 47thPennVols (talk) 12:02, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Citation style
[edit]Hallo, I hesitate to say this because I see you're an experienced editor with a Good Article to your name, as well as being a "published non-fiction author and humanities researcher-writer", but... you did say on @Ipigott:'s talk page that you're back editing after a break and that you feel yourself to be a relative newbie, so I will.
Looking at both Ruth E. Hodge and Mary Lowe Dickinson, I see that you use an unusual citation style for English Wikipedia. It's more akin to what I'd expect in a printed journal. In enwiki it's more usual either (a) to split the sources out from the list of citations, or alternatively (b) to just have the one list of references, in which multiple occurrences of a reference are re-used by giving the reference a name and citing it by name. Looking at the four Featured Articles on today's main page as a small but random sample of Wikipedia's finest, I find that Bill Brown (cricketer), Loss of MV Darlwyne and Ian Smith use the former system and Baby Boy (Beyoncé song) the latter. With your system, on finding a reference like "”Marcus L. Hodge,” The Sentinel." I have to skim back up through the list of references to find it expanded: with the two-list system there would be a separate shorter list of the sources where I could find that one quickly. Or with the second system, there would just be a whole lot of links to the one reference. There's also a template{{rp}}, "reference page" which can be useful when you want to refer to different pages within a particular source, though perhaps it clutters the text of the article.
There are various documentation pages about referencing. They all offer lots of options, and the instruction not to change the established citation style without very good reason. WP:INLINECITE is a guideline, while Help:Footnotes is a how-to guide.
I don't know what the people who consider GA and FA nominations would say to your current style of doing citations but I think they would probably object. But who am I to talk? I don't write long and thoroughly-researched articles, I just create well-sourced stubs with a full panoply of incoming redirects, and I wiki-gnome around, stub-sorting and generally tidying things up! Welcome back to editing, and congratulations on the two major women's articles I've seen. Oh, another point: subjects are only referred to by surname throughout their article, with some complexity about birth names, name when getting married, etc. But in general it's surname only: not "Ruth E. Hodge has been the recipient of multiple honors" but plain "Hodge has ...". Happy Editing! PamD 09:27, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- I see now that your William Henry Egle is a GA and has, for example, multiple references to "Kelker, History of Dauphin County." which aren't combined. I'm surprised. I now see that Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Repeated_citations only says "For multiple use of the same inline citation or footnote, you can use the named references feature", rather than "... should ...", as I'd always thought. Ah well. PamD 09:41, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- @PamD: I am personally more interested in the fond than in the forme. In other words, providing information is clearly sourced, I'm not too bothered in early versions of articles, whether the references follow the more common Wikipedia practices or not. From the editor's point of view, it might nevertheless be less cumbersome to use "the one list of references, in which multiple occurrences of a reference are re-used by giving the reference a name and citing it by name", especially if several of them refer to the very same page. In any case, I think 47thPV should be congratulated on being so thorough in his sourcing. As far as I can see, all the details in each of these two articles are unusually well referenced, bringing the articles up to at least C class.--Ipigott (talk) 09:50, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Ipigott: Many thanks, Ian. 47thPennVols (talk) 11:52, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- @PamD: I sincerely appreciate your enthusiasm and willingness to try to be of assistance; however, I have to say that I am very uncomfortable with several of the messages you have posted on my talk page recently.
- Although I did mention to @Ipigott: (via a message which was a communication *to* Ian and for response *from* Ian if he had time to respond) that I was back after having taken a break (because he and I had had previous communications about that). I took that break only from Women in Red – and not from writing and editing for other Wikipedia projects, as you’re mistakenly assuming above. (My Wikipedia contributions last month were largely done on behalf of the Milhist WikiProject; in addition, I worked on a variety of professional writing projects outside of Wikipedia as well, including a new book-length project which takes up the bulk of my time).
- Please be assured that I absolutely do understand how to cite articles correctly. I spent the majority of my professional career working for two major university systems in the United States. (One of my jobs involved coordinating and participating on academic monograph peer review committees; another involved the development and management of post-graduate programs, including coordinating the American academic side of an international collaboration between three major universities.) In addition, as you note above, I am a published author. Although I tend to use Chicago-Turabian or MLA styles when writing, I have become comfortable with AMA, APA, AP (and some very odd "house style" guides) over the years.
- Regarding your statement, “I don't know what the people who consider GA and FA nominations would say to your current style of doing citations but I think they would probably object,” actually they haven’t. My GA review went quite smoothly, as have the various WikiProject peer reviews for the multiple B-Class articles that I have produced to date. (Several of my reviewers, in fact, have urged me to submit more of my articles for GA review.) Sometimes citations changed during these reviews; sometimes they didn't. (In short, what may be an uncomfortable citation/referencing style for you, has not been for other experienced Wikipedians.) In addition, as Ian has observed, both of the WIR articles of mine that you've chosen to critique are still in their early phase of development. (I literally hit "publish" on the one we're discussing right now during what was my late afternoon on Aug. 2; the other was published on Aug. 1.)
- With respect to your other comment that “subjects are only referred to by surname throughout their article, with some complexity about birth names, name when getting married, etc.” your statement here is also not completely accurate. The reviewer of my GA-class article and I recently spent a fair amount of time analyzing the finer points of Wikipedia’s MoS re: naming conventions for the subject of another one of my articles – prior to my submitting that one for GA review, and we ended up learning that the MoS does not require that the subject's last name be used throughout. (In fact, because it gets confusing when discussing people with the same surname - a daughter and her parents/siblings or a wife and her husband - the MoS actually directs authors to use the first names of subjects rather than surnames. Per the MoS: "To distinguish between people with the same surname in the same article or page, use given names or complete names to refer to each of the people upon first mention. For subsequent uses, refer to them by their given names for clarity and brevity.... For example ... Correct: Ronald and Nancy Reagan arrived separately, Ronald by helicopter and Nancy by car.... Correct: The Reagans arrived separately, Ronald by helicopter and Nancy by car.... Correct: Jacob Grimm was 14 months older than his brother Wilhelm." Incorrect: Using sentences such as "'Clinton met Clinton while they were students at Yale.'")
- Quite frankly, to be critiqued so intensely (and repeatedly during a short period of time) when I've worked so hard on the Hodge and Dickinson articles (compared with other editors who are submitting non-sourced or barely-sourced stubs across a range of WikiProjects) is more than a little overwhelming and disheartening. (You may not have meant for your messages to have that impact on me, but they did. Furthermore, I'm utterly baffled as to why you felt the need to bring up my article about Egle when it is unrelated to this discussion.) I had planned on working on another new woman's bio for WIR this weekend, but am no longer feeling motivated to do so. I wish you continued success with your own work. Kind Regards. 47thPennVols (talk) 11:52, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- I'm sorry that you find my well-intentioned comments demotivating:please continue with your WiR work. I mentioned Egle because I'd followed the link there from the green GA symbol on your page. I will say no more. Happy Editing. PamD 12:48, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
- Quite frankly, to be critiqued so intensely (and repeatedly during a short period of time) when I've worked so hard on the Hodge and Dickinson articles (compared with other editors who are submitting non-sourced or barely-sourced stubs across a range of WikiProjects) is more than a little overwhelming and disheartening. (You may not have meant for your messages to have that impact on me, but they did. Furthermore, I'm utterly baffled as to why you felt the need to bring up my article about Egle when it is unrelated to this discussion.) I had planned on working on another new woman's bio for WIR this weekend, but am no longer feeling motivated to do so. I wish you continued success with your own work. Kind Regards. 47thPennVols (talk) 11:52, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
Oh dear. I was a bit taken aback by the implicit criticism of my GAN assessing re reference style, especially as I noticed after I had approved Egle that I had sloppily omitted to specifically comment on it. (Me bad.) Interesting that 14 minutes after commenting on your reference style there is an acknowledgement of actually having read the appropriate guideline. I thought that I was going to have to point it out. I am (I had just deleted an immodest "obviously") aware of it, not least because one of my WiR GAs (Female Red Guards of the Finnish Civil War - the one you encouraged me to take to GA when I had no intention of so doing) uses a variant of your Egle style. You write a 1,600 word article with 41 citations[!] and get critiqued on a technicality[!!] because PamD thinks it is "unusual". I can only agree with Ipigott. I am reminded of the words Bernard Shaw puts into Caesar's (or is that Ceasor's?) mouth:
BRITANNUS (shocked): Caesar: this is not proper. CAESAR (recovering his self-possession): Pardon him, Theodotus: he is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature.
- Gog the Mild (talk) 21:12, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Gog the Mild:. I'm still feeling bewildered by the intense dialogue which resulted from what I thought was a reasonably good start on the article re: Mary Lowe Dickinson, and remain particularly perplexed as to how and why the article of mine you reviewed for GA status (Egle) could even have been brought into the discussion re: my Dickinson article when those two articles were totally unrelated. My apologies for any discomfort that you may be feeling as a result of this awkward situation. You were only trying to do a good deed by assessing and improving a GAN as part of Milhist's efforts to reduce the number of GANs needing review (something you have done quite successfully for multiple other Wikipedians I might add). I hope you know that the critiques and counsel that you offered during that process for the Egle article were constructive, and very much appreciated. Kind Regards. 47thPennVols (talk) 03:00, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
- Not a problem. If I assess a GAN there are a set of criteria. If I miss on one then it needs to be pointed out to me. I was pretty sure that I hadn't this time so - well, I was going to say "I was relaxed", but that's not true; like most people I dislike being criticised, even when it is well intentioned and uninformed. I am not surprised that you feel bewildered and the main reason that I chipped in above was to reinforce what you already knew - that your articles were fully Wiki-compliant AND good exemplars.
- To one side, I try to AGF and I am aware that I have posted comments which have, reasonably, caused you distress in the past and so am in a poor position to throw stones.
- Also, I like your generous but firmly assertive responses to some of your correspondents. I have tucked some of your phraseology away in case I ever find myself in need of similar.
- To end with a series of clichés: Keep on generating your good quality articles; Damn the torpedoes; It is better to beg forgiveness than ask permission. Gog the Mild (talk) 09:46, 5 August 2018 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Denise Vernay
[edit]Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Denise Vernay you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Catrìona (talk) 03:01, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Catrìona: Thank you so much for conducting the GA review for Denise Vernay. I began researching her as part of the Women in Red/Milhist challenge back in April and, after just a short time, was awed by her life story. So, I've been working really hard to make sure that the article about her is the best that it can be. I look forward to your feedback. Kind Regards. 47thPennVols (talk) 03:37, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
- You're welcome! She certainly has an interesting life story. I've added some initial feedback on the review page. Catrìona (talk) 03:55, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
Invitation to participate in study
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- Thanks so much for reviewing and for your kind words ("Nice job!") in the edit summary. Kind Regards. 47thPennVols (talk) 19:41, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
Denise Vernay GA nomination
[edit]Hello, it looks like you have found the problem with the image upload. The standard hold period is one week. The article has now been on hold for 14 days. I'm happy to leave it as long as you need to resolve the issues that I brought up, as long as you are still intending to do so. In the current state, I cannot pass it. Catrìona (talk) 21:14, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
Templebreedy
[edit]Hiya. No biggie. But was wondering about this assessment note. In particular "b1 <!- - Referencing and citations - -> = no". Do I read this as an assessment that the b1 criteria ("suitably referenced, and all major points have appropriate inline citations") are not met? Given that (almost) every sentence in the article is supported by a reliable/inline ref, I'm interested to understand which of the major points could benefit from additional (or better) cites? I'm happy to help improve any that are lacking. If you have any in particular in mind... Guliolopez (talk) 01:05, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Guliolopez: Thanks so much for reaching out. The one area I saw that might benefit from an additional citation was in the History section - par. 3, 1st sentence, but I also agree with you that, overall, you've done a great job on citations. (I just took another look, and the error was definitely on my end. So, I've gone ahead and checked off B1, and raised the rating to C-Class.) Thanks so much for your hard work. Kind regards. 47thPennVols (talk) 01:31, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
- OK. Thanks. Guliolopez (talk) 01:48, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
Military Importance in WP:MILHIST
[edit]Where is the template source for the "Importance" in WikiProject Military History? There is none, therefore I clearly moved it to the WP:Biography with a Mid importance as you had it in WP:MILHIST. Adamdaley (talk) 06:10, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
- @Gog the Mild: Since you were the primary reviewer on the Egle article, and just approved it for GA status on July 31, 2018, could you explain to Adam why the article is/was appropriate for the military history category? (Adam seems to feel there are changes needed to the GA classification.) 47thPennVols (talk) 06:25, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
- I've not changed the "GA" assessment. I clearly moved the invalid code from one WikiProject where it was clearly not being maintained as "Mid", to WikiProject Biography where it is being actually useful. Adamdaley (talk) 06:37, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
- Adam: I'm not going to get drawn into a back and forth by you on this. I've asked @Gog the Mild: to share his insights. Please be patient and wait for a reply. In the meantime, you might want to turn your attention to one of the 24,062 other articles that are listed by Milhist coordinators as needing attention. (These articles haven't had B-class checklists added, and the majority have never been assessed in any capacity. Additionally, many are at stub or start-class level - far below the Egle article which has already been awarded GA status.) Kind Regards. 47thPennVols (talk) 06:50, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
- That's where I came from a week ago. That's what I was doing. I'm not argue here, I'm just telling you that it was in the wrong place, otherwise every WikiProject Military History would have an importance section. Adamdaley (talk) 06:59, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
- Adam: You are being argumentative. I've politely asked you to wait for a reply from @Gog the Mild: but, instead, you have continued to post argumentative content. Because you're unwilling to wait for potential input from Gog the Mild, and because you've been warned about this type of hostile behavior on Milhist discussion threads in the past, I'm now officially asking you to stop posting on my talk page. I will not engage with you any further. 47thPennVols (talk) 07:15, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
- Well he'll eventually come. You're just as bad as me, if you wanna do this all day, knowing he hasn't come quite yet. If you don't reply, I won't either. He'll eventually come and comment. Adamdaley (talk) 07:17, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of Denise Vernay
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Fold3
[edit]Hello! I see you have fold3 access. I was wondering if you can clear up some questions I have. I requested access, and was accepted, but I was unable to actually gain access to the full website. I was emailed with instructions to give account info (username); I did, and nothing has happened since. The Fold3 system indicates that I only have a Basic Free Membership account. Is that what I'm supposed to have? Am I supposed to have premium, or something else? Many thanks. -Broichmore (talk) 11:27, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Broichmore: Thanks so much for reaching out. Yes, I do have Fold3, and I've found it quite helpful for my research. I initially had a similar problem in which I was approved but was unable to access anything but the basic content. As I remember, it took more than a month. The Wikipedia coordinator for the Fold3 service, Iazyges (courtesy ping: @Iazyges:), is a volunteer, and is quite busy. It also apparently took a bit of time for the coordinator on Fold3's end to review and process the application. How long have you been trying to access the premium content? 47thPennVols (talk) 15:12, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Broichmore: Apologies; I like to send the info to their coordinator two weeks after I send out the email telling everyone to create a free account, to allow for most to respond. I meant to send it out on monday but forgot; it has been sent now, and you should receive access soon. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 01:16, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Iazyges: Thanks for responding so quickly, and again, thanks for all you're doing to help us obtain (and maintain) access to Fold3. I just found another amazing document in the Civil War pension file of a Medal of Honor winner that I'm writing about for Wikipedia. (That carte de visite photo that I found in a different file a few weeks ago for an entirely different officer was also pretty amazing. Fold3 is turning out to be a gold mine.) Have a great weekend! 47thPennVols (talk) 01:25, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help. Broichmore (talk) 10:34, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
- My pleasure. Best of luck with your research. 47thPennVols (talk) 14:27, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Broichmore: Thanks so much for reaching out. Yes, I do have Fold3, and I've found it quite helpful for my research. I initially had a similar problem in which I was approved but was unable to access anything but the basic content. As I remember, it took more than a month. The Wikipedia coordinator for the Fold3 service, Iazyges (courtesy ping: @Iazyges:), is a volunteer, and is quite busy. It also apparently took a bit of time for the coordinator on Fold3's end to review and process the application. How long have you been trying to access the premium content? 47thPennVols (talk) 15:12, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
Disambiguation link notification for September 22
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- Note: This is an apparent bot error. Just checked every link throughout the article (with the name "Appomattox"). There were no dabs. 47thPennVols (talk) 14:58, 22 September 2018 (UTC)
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- @SkyGazer 512: What a pleasant surprise to see this message pop up on my talk page. Thanks so much for reviewing the Rohm article and for taking the initiative to ask that I be granted autopatrolled right. I'll also post my thanks to your talk page in a sec, but just wanted to express my thanks here as well. Kind Regards. 47thPennVols (talk) 06:43, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
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Hi 47thPennVols, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the "autopatrolled" permission to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the autopatrolled right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! (Swarm ♠ talk) 05:59, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
- @Swarm: Thanks so much for your kind words and also for granting my account autopatrolled status. Kind regards, and have a great week! 47thPennVols (talk) 06:48, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
- Good for you, or I should say, good for all of us. Thanks for your help in the ACW area of interest. BusterD (talk) 02:15, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
- @BusterD: Thanks so much for your support and for your kind words as well. Have a great week! 47thPennVols (talk) 02:59, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
- Good for you, or I should say, good for all of us. Thanks for your help in the ACW area of interest. BusterD (talk) 02:15, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
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- Thank you! 47thPennVols (talk) 16:01, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
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Your GA nomination of 91st Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment
[edit]Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article 91st Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of AustralianRupert -- AustralianRupert (talk) 10:41, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
- @AustralianRupert: My apologies for the delay in responding. I've been off of Wikipedia and the computer in general, and am just now only seeing your posts. In addition to it being Thanksgiving vacation week for many of us in the U.S. right now, I've been recovering from a rather nasty accident. I was nearly hit by a car while I was crossing a street several weeks ago, and fell while trying to get out of the car's path. (I had the right of way, by the way, and the police have confirmed that the driver was clearly at fault.) I'm feeling oddly fortunate at this point because if I hadn't fallen, I would actually have been hit by the car. Unfortunately, I sustained significant injuries to my hand and arm - injuries which have are still making computer use somewhat difficult. So, first, I'm grateful that you've been willing to initiate the GA review for this article. And, second, I genuinely appreciate all of your suggestions. I haven't had the chance yet to review all of them, but many of those I did review seemed sound and insightful. Third, I'm relieved that you've now put the GA review on hold (per your message below) because I'm going to need a bit more time in order to work through your list and complete the items you'd recommend be adjusted. Would it be possible for me to have until mid-December? (I would not normally ask this, but my doctor has advised me to continue to limit the use of my hand, wrist and arm for a few more weeks.) Again, many thanks for your help. Kind Regards. 47thPennVols (talk) 09:26, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
Your GA nomination of 91st Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment
[edit]The article 91st Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needing to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass; otherwise it may fail. See Talk:91st Pennsylvania Infantry Regiment for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of AustralianRupert -- AustralianRupert (talk) 03:01, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
- @AustralianRupert: My apologies for the delay in responding. Per my message above re: your launch of the GA review for this article, I've been off of Wikipedia and the computer in general, and am just now only seeing your posts - due to it being Thanksgiving vacation week for many of us in the U.S. right now, as well as to my recovery from a nasty accident. (Please see the message above for details.) I'm relieved that you've now put the GA review on hold (per your message below), and am requesting that I be given a slightly longer hold time (to mid-December) to allow for recovery from injuries, as well as to complete the items you've recommended be adjusted. (Again, I would not normally ask this, but my doctor has advised me to continue to limit the use of my hand, wrist and arm for a few more weeks.) Many thanks. Kind Regards. 47thPennVols (talk) 09:30, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
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[edit]Hello 47thPennVols, I wanted to say happy New Year and hopefully you'd have a great 2019. Because of timezones is it highly posible that I'm living in 2019 when you see this message. That's why I'll say it now already, even it is still 2018 there. I would say: "you Americans follow us the Europeans into the future". Cheers and have a great day, year and be save. CPA-5 (talk) 13:36, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
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[edit]Welcome back 47thPennVols happy to see you back. Yes I know I'm a little bit late to say "welcome back" but I am in a really busy period (with my family) so couldn't be here on Wikipedia most of the time. But I am happy to see you back. PS happy (late) Valentine's Day. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 19:44, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
- @CPA-5: Many thanks for the warm welcome and Valentine's Day wishes. I'm still needing to limit my time here because I'm still having a few problems with my left hand (related to the accident), but am happy to be able to at least research and type for a little bit. Hope all's well in your world. Looking forward to reading more of your work. 47thPennVols (talk) 19:50, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
- You're welcome 47thPennVols. I'm happy to hear your recovery. Yes I know this sounds a little awkward to say but I will take a little break on Wikipedia to finish those damnson family stuff. In the meantime please be safe and careful especially with your left hand. I will be back as soon as possible which would be in begin March. Cheers. CPA-5 (talk) 20:25, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
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Removing stub tags
[edit]Hi, I'm confused why you've removed stub tags from articles that are clearly stubs such as here and here. Eagles 24/7 (C) 18:21, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for your inquiry, @User:Eagles247. As a native Pennsylvanian and longtime student of Pennsylvania and American History, I've been bothered by the historical lack of activity on WikiProject Pennsylvania. (At one point, this lack of activity contributed to WikiProject Pennsylvania being labeled as "semi-active" by Wikipedia, and clearly has been a key factor behind the proliferation of articles on the project being tagged as stubs by bots when they are, in fact, start class or better when compared to articles from other state wikiprojects. (With respect, I humbly disagree with your assessment that the articles you're referring to above were "clearly stubs." Although the 1841 Pennsylvania gubernatorial election does not have extensive text content, it includes far more content than many other existing stubs on Wikipedia today including, among other things: the beginnings of a Reference section with an initial inline citation; an image of the winning candidate, David R. Porter, and a wikilink to his biographical article on Wikipedia; a chart listing the candidates by name, party affiliation, vote count, and percentage of votes garnered; a graphic (statewide map) showing the election results by county. And while the Dan Ficca article is a short one, the creator did take the time to create an Infobox showing Ficca's basic career highlights - so, it's really more than the mere stub that many articles are on Wikipedia.)
- As an educator, I've been equally bothered by the fact that many of my fellow educators prohibit their students from using Wikipedia as a source for articles about Pennsylvania's history and its people. (I've been told by more than a few that one of their reasons is that the articles appear to be lesser quality because they have been labeled as stubs or otherwise tagged as lacking appropriate references and/or supporting materials.)
- For these two reasons, I decided to begin work on stub sorting, retagging/detagging, and adding new content with new inline citations to as many Pennsylvania articles as I can get to with my limited free time. So, it's troubling to me that you reverted my removal of the stub tags for both of these articles at 18:18 (Ficca) and 18:19 (1841 gubernatorial) on July 3 before posting your query to me at 18:21. I believe it would have been more appropriate for you to assume good faith and initiate the appropriate dialogue as to why I took the actions I did before reverting me because, as you can see from my explanation above, there has been no malicious intent on my part. I have simply been following Wikipedia's guidance to be bold with respect to removing stub status.
- So, now that I've explained things, I'm formally asking that you undo your revert to at least the 1841 gubernatorial article because I believe your action was incorrect for that particular article. (Since you're a sports expert, I'll leave the decision re: the Ficca article to you, but the gubernatorial article is clearly not a stub.) Thanks for your cooperation. (I'll also post my response to your query on your talk page as well just to make sure you see it.) Best wishes for continued success with your own research and editing. Kind Regards. 47thPennVols (talk) 19:21, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks for the explanation. It is admirable to see your dedication to Pennsylvania-related articles on Wikipedia, but I believe you are missing the intention of articles being labeled as "stubs". The templates at the bottom of stubs are used to encourage readers and editors to expand the pages, they aren't red letters saying these articles aren't good enough to be read by an average user of the site. Per WP:STUBDEF, a stub is typically subjective in length but in general it is agreed that they are less than 10 sentences, 250 words, or 1500 characters of prose. According to the editing guideline you cited (WP:DESTUB), "Once a stub has been properly expanded and becomes a larger article, any editor may remove its stub template." Many of the articles you removed the templates from were not expanded, and thus do not meet the guideline to remove the templates. I stand by all of my reversions, as two sentences of prose and two infoboxes are not enough for these articles to be considered "start" class. Eagles 24/7 (C) 20:09, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
- Thank you for being willing to discuss your thinking on this, @User:Eagles247, but again, I must respectfully disagree with your assessment since, in my opinion, the gubernatorial articles are somewhat more than the stub definition of "a very basic description of the topic" (due to the features I mentioned above, including the charts which list the candidates, their respective party affiliations, vote totals and vote percentages). I firmly believe these articles provide "some meaningful content" (start class and even some elements of C-class) as opposed to "very little meaningful content" (stub class). I'm puzzled by your assertion that, "in general it is agreed that [stub articles] are less than 10 sentences, 250 words, or 1500 characters of prose" (since the actual phrase from that paragraph reads: "Over the years, different editors have followed different rules of thumb to help them decide when an article is likely to be a stub. Editors may decide that an article with more than ten sentences is too big to be a stub, or that the threshold for another article may be 250 words. Others follow the Did you know? standard of 1,500 characters in the main text. AutoWikiBrowser is frequently set to automatically remove stub tags from any article with more than 500 words"). Furthermore, Wikipedia's stated criteria for article assessments (Template:Grading scheme) simply describes the differences thusly:
- Stub Class: "A very basic description of the topic. However, all very-bad-quality articles will fall into this category.... Provides very little meaningful content; may be little more than a dictionary definition. Readers probably see insufficiently developed features of the topic and may not see how the features of the topic are significant...."
- Start Class: "An article that is developing, but which is quite incomplete. It might or might not cite adequate reliable sources.... Provides some meaningful content, but most readers will need more...."
- Thank you for being willing to discuss your thinking on this, @User:Eagles247, but again, I must respectfully disagree with your assessment since, in my opinion, the gubernatorial articles are somewhat more than the stub definition of "a very basic description of the topic" (due to the features I mentioned above, including the charts which list the candidates, their respective party affiliations, vote totals and vote percentages). I firmly believe these articles provide "some meaningful content" (start class and even some elements of C-class) as opposed to "very little meaningful content" (stub class). I'm puzzled by your assertion that, "in general it is agreed that [stub articles] are less than 10 sentences, 250 words, or 1500 characters of prose" (since the actual phrase from that paragraph reads: "Over the years, different editors have followed different rules of thumb to help them decide when an article is likely to be a stub. Editors may decide that an article with more than ten sentences is too big to be a stub, or that the threshold for another article may be 250 words. Others follow the Did you know? standard of 1,500 characters in the main text. AutoWikiBrowser is frequently set to automatically remove stub tags from any article with more than 500 words"). Furthermore, Wikipedia's stated criteria for article assessments (Template:Grading scheme) simply describes the differences thusly:
- So, because we disagree on this point, but can both point to Wikipedia guidelines to support our respective positions, I am asking again, respectfully, that you undo your reverts on the history-related articles. (I will defer to you on the sports-related articles since you're the sports expert, but ask that you respect my level of expertise as an educator, published author, and experienced Wikipedia editor.) I'll also post my response to you on your talk page for consistency sake. Again, many thanks for your collegiality and cooperation. Kind Regards. 47thPennVols (talk) 20:37, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
- I pointed you to WP:STUBDEF which details the general length of a stub as I described. I'm not sure why you believe being an educator and author gives you more of a qualification to edit certain articles on Wikipedia than me, especially since the subject of the articles is irrelevant in this discussion about policy (of which I am supposedly an expert). Again, I will not undo my reversions and I suggest you start a discussion at an appropriate talk page (such as Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Pennsylvania or WT:STUB) to gain a consensus for your edits. Eagles 24/7 (C) 20:53, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
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Backlog Banzai
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I just visited some of the articles I wrote a while back on Vermont Medal of Honor recipients in the Civil War and noticed you significantly expanded many of them. Thank you! Vermont (talk) 15:02, 28 August 2019 (UTC) |
- @Vermont: My pleasure. Thank YOU for researching and starting the articles in the first place. Anyone who has one a Medal of Honor deserves to be remembered, IMHO, so your work in this regard has been really important. Best wishes for continued success with your own research and writing, and many thanks for your kind words and the "warm fuzzy" you sent by way of the barnstar! 47thPennVols (talk) 17:34, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
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Thanks for starting the article Richard "Dick" Wheeler. I think the title needs to be changed however, to be more inline with WP:NCP guidelines, and to more clearly distinguish from other Richard Wheelers. The military historian seems to be most prominently known as simply "Richard Wheeler" (e.g. the name used in his books, and by others in reviews). "Dick" might be used by friends and family, but does not seem to be most common name, and there are other notable Dick Wheeler's which may warrant future Wikipedia articles. What do you think of moving the article to Richard Wheeler (historian)? "Richard Wheeler (author)" is too ambiguous, and can be confused with the novelist Richard S. Wheeler. --Animalparty! (talk) 18:18, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
- @Animalparty: Many thanks for your input. I went back and forth with myself over the naming because, although the name used for many of the books he authored was "Richard Wheeler", a number of military historians have referred to or cited him over the years as "Dick Wheeler." Further complicating the matter are the multiple instances of newspaper editors (including those at major newspapers) who regularly referred to him as "Richard 'Dick' Wheeler" (and who still do in 2019), which I suspect may have been/may be an editorial choice because there have been/are so many "Richard Wheelers" and "Dick Wheelers" out there. In addition, the problem with using "Richard Wheeler (historian)" is that there are actually other Richard Wheelers out there who were/are/may become historians, including at least one who has also been involved with films/documentaries (Richard Wheeler, the National Specialist in Garden History with the National Trust, who worked on "The First Georgians"; here's his LinkedIn profile, fyi). I do understand that Wikipedia has a style guide with respect to the names of biographical subjects, but after reading and re-reading it more than a few times over the years, I believe that it provides significant flexibility, particularly with respect to the usage of middle names. So, for these reasons, I'm not convinced that the name of the article should be changed. IMHO, I think changing the article title could potentially make it more confusing for readers, rather than less so, but if you have further thoughts, I'd welcoming hearing those. Kind Regards. 47thPennVols (talk) 18:37, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
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modern update - uses 'vast majority of sources' found in a browser search - scope - British-American insurrection in continental North America, spread to Anglo-Bourbon (Fr.&Sp.) War-across worldwide empires, Fourth Anglo-Dutch War-North Atlantic, Second Mysore War-Indian subcontinent & Ocean - participants British & US Congress, France, Spain, Dutch Republic, Kingdom of Mysore - war aims -- Brit: maintain First British Empire with mercantile system -- US independence, British evacuation, territory to Mississippi-navigation, Newfoundland-fish & cure -- Bourbons: Gibraltar, Jamaica, Majorca, expand Gambia trade, expand India trade -- Dutch - free trade with North America & Caribbean -- Mysore wider east-Indian sub-continent sphere of influenced results - Second British Empire, Spanish Majorca, French Gambia, further decline of Dutch Republic - reliable scholarly reference [world military dictionary] for the military specialist - prominent adherents - Michael Clodfelter, more to follow |
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[edit]I always do. It just lets me work without worrying about anything. Also, please consider setting up archiving on your user talk, it's really long, and that's not helpful to other editors who are trying to communicate with you. Best to you. —valereee (talk) 22:16, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
- @Valereee: Thanks so much for your help earlier, and for reaching out with your suggestions. I've actually tried to archive my user talk several times using the manual Cut and paste procedure, but have been running into a problem with Steps 2 and 3. When I try to "Create an archive by searching for 'User talk:username/Archive N' where N is the lowest whole number for which no archive exists. Your archive will be the N-th archive," instead of "Searching should say that this page does not exist" in order to "Click the provided link to create/start it," I'm being sent to this page, User talk:Username/Archive N," which does not give me a link to create an archive page. Any guidance you can provide would be most welcome. Kind Regards. - 47thPennVols (talk) 01:35, 19 July 2021 (UTC)
- Yes, the archiving instructions are, like many of our how-tos, written by our more technically-inclined editors, many of whom don't understand that they need to also write for those of us who are, um, less technically-inclined. I finally gave up on trying to get dead-simple instructions inserted, and I created Help:Archiving for dummies. Er, that title was aimed at me. :) If you copy/paste that at the top of your page, you'll get a nice little archives search box, and in a little while a bot will start coming through and you'll never have to think about it again.
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[edit]On 4 August 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Eliza Kennedy Smith, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Eliza Kennedy Smith's investigations of municipal corruption in Pittsburgh led to the mayor's arrest and imprisonment? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Eliza Kennedy Smith. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Eliza Kennedy Smith), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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[edit]Sorry for any confusion or misguided edits to your excellent American Civil War contributions. I appreciate the focus you bring to that important era. Hope we can find some ways to work together in the new year. Keystone18 (talk) 06:44, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for your tag at Laflin, Pennsylvania. I made a few edits which seemed to improve the layout. Cheers. Magnolia677 (talk) 12:40, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks so much for your prompt work on this! The article is definitely easier to read. All the best! 47thPennVols (talk) 05:51, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
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[edit]Thanks, 47thPennVols, for responding to my stub assessment of Carole W. Troxler. You might have been surprised that I did not give it Start like the others but in fact the article has only 186 words of running text. For start class, the break point is usually around 250 words. The problem here is that despite the bot assessments a substantial proportion of the article consists of the bulleted "Writings" section which, together with the lengthy references, provides a basis for a bot-based Start. One way of improving the presentation of the article would be to comment in running text on her writings and articles, in particular by looking for independent critical assessments. I probably don't need to go into further detail as I see from here that you have been writing women's biographies up to a high standard of quality. Keep up the good work and please let me know if I can be of further help. Happy editing!--Ipigott (talk) 19:42, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
- I always appreciate your perspective, Ian. Thanks so much for taking the time to write and for your positive thoughts about my work. It helps to know that it's appreciated. I went back and forth a few times on whether or not to reassess the Troxler bio as start class because I also felt it could (and should) have additional text. I finally came down on the side of start class, though, because I keep coming across bios of men (a significant number) that have long been classified as stubs, but which are so much shorter than the current version of the Troxler bio. As I mulled over how to assess her bio, it genuinely seemed, to me, like an injustice to leave her bio at stub.
- Again, I truly appreciate your perspective. Just as a point of reference, here are just a few of the many examples of the really short, longtime stubs that I've found: Donald Seibert, Dork Sahagian, Dorn Taylor, Doug Piatt, Doug Russell (American football), Fred C. Noye, and Fred E. Heckel. Quite honestly, I suspect that at least several of these, if they had been bios of women, would have been challenged, and very likely deleted, as non-notable.
- It genuinely baffles and frustrates me, as I know it does many Women in Red members, that an academic like Carole Troxler, who achieved quite a bit in her career as a history scholar, would be challenged when so many bios of not-terribly-notable male actors and athletes (or even stubs of notable male scholars) are allowed to remain thin on details about their subjects for a decade or more. Happily, the Women in Red project does seem to be making significant headway in educating the broader Wikipedia community about fighting to keep women's bios posted in order to give them time to be improved. I continue to hope for the day when an award-winning female history scholar is finally considered by everyone on Wikipedia to be as notable as a high school baseball coach who ended his career with a losing record. Best wishes for continued success with your own research and writing, Ian, and thank you for all you're doing to make sure women are celebrated for their contributions.47thPennVols (talk) 20:24, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
- If you find blatantly incorrect assessments, you should just change them. If it's any consolation, I frequently assess the new articles from the Scandinavian and Nordic countries which always include biographies of men. I assess them on the same basis as those of women. It seems to me that there should not be one rule for DYK submissions (which rely on the extent of running text) and another for non-DYK articles. Our overall aim is to encourage improvement of our biographies and you are certainly one of those who have been paving the way. Keep in touch and keep up the good work!--Ipigott (talk) 21:05, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
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[edit]I gotta say, you're getting a bit out of hand with the readability issue. One left aligned picture is not a big deal. Famartin (talk) 21:09, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- Respectfully, you appear to be speaking from an ableist perspective. One mis-aligned photo, map, chart, or other image most certainly can be a very big deal for readers who have visual impairments. Per Wikipedia's own Manual of Style/Accessibility Standards, "Avoid placing images on the left hand side as a consistent left margin makes reading easier." Sandwiched text is also a particularly difficult problem for many readers with visual impairments. (One reason, per Wikipedia, is that "Left-aligned images may disturb the layout of bulleted lists and similar structures that depend on visual uniformity, e.g. by pushing some items on such lists further inward.")
- If it's just as easy to place a photo on the right-hand side of an article, as it is on the left-hand side, and it makes it easier for someone who has low vision, someone who is blind and uses a screen reader, or someone who has a reading comprehension disability (particularly students who might need to use the articles they find on Wikipedia for their studies), why would any Wikipedia editor insist on placing their images on the left-hand side?
- Placing images on the right-hand side of an article is simply just an act of kindness, and it also makes Wikipedia articles MOS-compliant. Please refrain from reverting me again in the future. Thank you. - 47thPennVols (talk) 21:26, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- Please refrain from reverting me again. Oh, you're rich, really. I'll revert what I please if I feel you're being too aggressive. Famartin (talk) 21:38, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- I don't know if you realize how angry you're coming across, but I'm asking you, at this juncture, to stop now. Please consider your motivations. If it's just as easy to place a photo on the right-hand side of an article as it is on the left-hand side, why are you still feeling the need to continue to place images on the left (particularly now that it's been explained to you that it makes it harder for people with disabilities to read and comprehend Wikipedia articles when the images are placed on the left instead of the right)? 47thPennVols (talk) 21:47, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- "Please refrain from reverting me again in the future" Do you realize how saying that makes YOU sound? Just who do you think you are exactly? Certainly not someone I'm going to pay much attention to, after saying something like that as if you were some sort of Wikipedia god. Famartin (talk) 21:49, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- I don't know if you realize how angry you're coming across, but I'm asking you, at this juncture, to stop now. Please consider your motivations. If it's just as easy to place a photo on the right-hand side of an article as it is on the left-hand side, why are you still feeling the need to continue to place images on the left (particularly now that it's been explained to you that it makes it harder for people with disabilities to read and comprehend Wikipedia articles when the images are placed on the left instead of the right)? 47thPennVols (talk) 21:47, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- BTW, I'll quote the very top of that MOS page: "This is a guide to editing pages for accessibility". Not hard fast rules... a GUIDE. So, relax. Famartin (talk) 21:47, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- Respectfully, again, you're coming across as an angry person. Please stop and consider my question above. If it's just as easy to place a photo on the right-hand side of an article as it is on the left-hand side, why are you still feeling the need to continue to place images on the left (particularly now that it's been explained to you that it makes it harder for people with disabilities to read and comprehend Wikipedia articles when the images are placed on the left instead of the right)? 47thPennVols (talk) 21:52, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- I'm going to ignore you now. I didn't even place that image that I reverted on US 22, I just felt like it was time to put some brakes on your relentlessness. Famartin (talk) 21:55, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- That seems to be a very angry and unkind action on your part. How sad for you that you felt it was more important to try to make me feel badly than it was to allow a simple correction to an article to stand (a correction that would likely have helped many readers with visual disabilities). 47thPennVols (talk) 22:03, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- I'm going to ignore you now. I didn't even place that image that I reverted on US 22, I just felt like it was time to put some brakes on your relentlessness. Famartin (talk) 21:55, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- Respectfully, again, you're coming across as an angry person. Please stop and consider my question above. If it's just as easy to place a photo on the right-hand side of an article as it is on the left-hand side, why are you still feeling the need to continue to place images on the left (particularly now that it's been explained to you that it makes it harder for people with disabilities to read and comprehend Wikipedia articles when the images are placed on the left instead of the right)? 47thPennVols (talk) 21:52, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
- Please refrain from reverting me again. Oh, you're rich, really. I'll revert what I please if I feel you're being too aggressive. Famartin (talk) 21:38, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
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[edit]Hi, just a note in thanks for all the good work you do here. I enjoyed reading your new articles, which filled important gaps. If you ever have any questions I can help with, don't hesitate to drop me a line. Best wishes and happy editing, Eddie891 Talk Work 01:23, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- Hi, Eddie. Thank you so much for your kind words and positive feedback. It's good to know that the work I've done has been helpful. I always enjoy reading your articles, as well. I often wish I could meet the individuals you write about (with the help of a time machine, if need be). I also appreciate your offer of help; I often have moments of "Now, how do I...?" So, it's good to know I can reach out to you for advice. I look forward to staying in touch! And best wishes to you, too, for happy editing! - 47thPennVols (talk) 01:29, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks, and I completely agree- there are so many fascinating untold stories out there! And it's great to do a small part in telling them. Eddie891 Talk Work 12:19, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
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Your war against left aligned images
[edit]Seriously, its as bad as Keystone18 insisting that all images needed to be uprighted and enlarged. Yes, there are SOME articles that overdo it, but this is one of those places you need to look at things with, as MOS says, "common sense" and not a club. Please refrain from your blanket actions in this area. I recently saw an article where you added a gallery for a single image becuase you couldn't figure out how to fit it into its respective section. That's just plain silliness, and if that's the sort of editing you do, its not entirely constructive. I'm not saying stop (I can be grouchy), but I am saying "think a bit harder about whats good for all." Famartin (talk) 03:18, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
- I have not been engaged in any kind of "war," nor have I been involved in "blanket actions" as you falsely claim. I was simply making good faith edits that are supported by Wikipedia's MOS/Accessibility Standards. You, however, reverted my good faith edits a total of five times on one article (Pennsylvania Route 88) in violation of the three-revert rule (3RR). (I was literally in the middle of making appropriate changes to the Route 88 article, including fixing spacing mistakes and incorrect grammar, when you began reverting my edits, which undid all of my previous clean-up efforts.) As for your claim that you were merely being "grouchy," please don't try to minimize your behavior. Your tone of voice in your post above and on your recent edit summaries was not appropriate. You have made the choice to be uncivil not just to me on several occasions (most recently when you implied above that I "couldn't figure out" how to make an edit), but to other editors (as you did above re: your disparagement of another editor who was not even involved in editing the article you are disputing). Purposefully labeling editors' work as "silliness" when that work was simply done in good faith or accusing your fellow Wikipedians of "whining" when they try to interact constructively with you is unhelpful and is not the type of collegiality that the majority of editors strive for on Wikipedia. In addition, your telling editors to "Stay out of areas with which you have little expertise," is not only uncivil, it conveys that you feel a sense of ownership over articles, which is a violation of WP:OWN. So, at this juncture, I am respectfully asking that you take a step back and consider what you might do to improve your interactions with your fellow Wikipedia editors and consider whether they may have points of view and levels of editing experience that are equally as valid as yours. Kind Regards. - 47thPennVols (talk) 04:33, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
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[edit]I appreciate your spotting (and reverting) my erroneous addition of an "Unreferenced section" template to Arthur Hohl. Somehow I failed to see the citation in the section's second paragraph. I have added a "Citation needed" template for the first paragraph, which is what I should have done last night.
I always try to be accurate in my edits, but it's good to have someone correct them when I do something wrong. Eddie Blick (talk) 01:21, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
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[edit]Seeing a recent comment by you in Onel's Talk Page, I feel it is important to remind you that you do not WP:OWN any articles and have no right to dictate the style because you created or edited the article. Nor should you be telling an editor to avoid your articles to avoid discord. Please refrain in the future from such actions as they have no place here Slywriter (talk) 16:41, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
- With respect, I'm puzzled as to why you have felt the need to insert yourself into a minor matter that has already been resolved. The editor in question promised to be more attentive in his editing, after I mentioned my concerns about his accuracy in mid-June, and has already archived our discussion. We had a civil discussion (one in which I did not claim "ownership" as you assert above). Your comments above, however, feel to me as if you did not assume good faith about me when you wrote your post. Moving forward, I hope we can have more positive interactions. Kind Regards. - 47thPennVols (talk) 18:33, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
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This subject doesn't appear to have an entry. Might be interesting? I started Draft:81st Regiment Infantry U.S. Colored Troops. Take care. FloridaArmy (talk) 21:46, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks so much for reaching out. I'm currently focused more on creating new articles and improving existing articles for Women in Red and stub sorting for WikiProject Pennsylvania, right now, rather than Milhist-related work, but wish you continued success with your own research and writing. I'm so pleased to see that you're working on USCT units, so many of which have yet to have their storied service told via Wikipedia. Keep up the great work! - 47thPennVols (talk) 21:58, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks very much. I found an entry on the above subject. Always a relief not to have to create it!!! Take care and thanks for all your great work. FloridaArmy (talk) 22:12, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
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- The New Pages Patrol is currently struggling to keep up with the influx of new articles needing review. We could use a few extra hands to help.
- We think that someone with your activity and experience is very likely to meet the guidelines for granting.
- Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time, but it requires a strong understanding of Wikipedia’s CSD policy and notability guidelines.
- Kindly read the tutorial before making your decision, and feel free to post on the project talk page with questions.
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- My apologies for the delay in responding. I appreciate the invitation to apply for NPP status; unfortunately, the timing isn't good for me because I'm currently focused on article creation and improvement for the Women in Red project and for WikiProject Pennsylvania. I wish you all the best with your own research, writing and editing. Kind Regards. - 47thPennVols (talk) 23:04, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
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- Thanks so much for making my day! And thank YOU for all of the great work you've been doing with Women in Red. (I enjoy reading your articles!) - 47thPennVols (talk) 22:58, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
Re:Reverting your edits on Dorothy Granada
[edit]Hello. Thank you for your message on my talk page. I am in fact a relatively new Wikipedia editor, so I still have quite a few things to learn (for instance, how a new article is auto-connected to its corresponding Wikidata entry). I was also unaware that it's recommended to wait at least half an hour before editing another user's article; I'm mostly been helping out newer editors by adding some of the frequently omitted components (the "Reflist" template, a DEFAULTSORT value, categories, etc.) of a brand new article. I apologize if I made the edits to your article too hastily, and I will keep your suggestions in mind. Again, thank you for your message. ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 20:55, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thanks so much for your quick response, and no worries. I've seen the good work that you've been doing (because you've been making helpful edits to a number of articles that I follow on my watchlist), and I just wanted to reach out because I know how steep the learning curve can be on Wikipedia at first. There are so many big and little policies regarding editing and etiquette, or guidance statements that are not considered to be policies but that are guidelines that are still considered to be important, that it's impossible to learn them all at once. So, I just thought it would be good to give you a heads up about the "good idea to wait at least thirty minutes" tip. (One of the more challenging aspects of Wikipedia is that it has felt like an unfriendly environment for many new editors because, historically, there have been editors who have begun making significant changes to new articles by those new editors before those new editors have barely had a chance to proofread the articles they've just posted. For example, someone once created a new talk page for one of my new articles literally within a minute or so of my having posted the article while I was working on creating the new talk page for the article myself. It got so bad for while that it finally prompted a review of the disruptive impacts those types of edits were having on the editing process and of the negative impact they were having on attracting and retaining new editors to Wikipedia, particularly women.) And since you've been doing such good work so far, I didn't want you to have an administrator or someone else give you a hard time about "editing too soon" because Wikipedia needs enthusiastic, dedicated editors like you. So, keep up the great work and stay in touch to let me know how you're doing! - 47thPennVols (talk) 21:59, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you so much for your kind words and consideration. Best of luck with your future editing! ★ The Green Star Collector ★ (talk) 22:24, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
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[edit]Reading your recent post, I saw "The bio isn't an orphan; it's linked to several pages, including ..." and checked the article, but I think you meant "The bio isn't an orphan; it's linked from several pages, including ...". Some editors confuse them. You might like to tweak your post to clarify, to save other editors checking. ( Yes, I know you're an experienced editor: I forgot). Yes, definitely not an orphan, but only in last few hours: I don't know whether that's the problem? PamD 06:27, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
- I began linking the article immediately after posting; so, there was no delay on my part that could or should have caused this glitch. Also, I've not ever had an article labeled as an orphan so soon after posting. (In fact, I posted 2 other new bios for Women in Red this month; neither was listed as an orphan on the new pages feed.) Chances are, I'm probably not the only editor experiencing this problem. - 47thPennVols (talk) 10:31, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
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[edit]Hey, noticed that you manually assessed an article from stub to start. You might find the User:Evad37/rater script useful, it makes the whole workflow really light weight, Sadads (talk) 23:51, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
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[edit]Hi 47thPennVols, nice to meet you. I'm reaching out to you as a member of WP:Disability and a WP:BLP, regarding some updates to disability rights activist, Jay Ruderman's, page. If you agree that these changes improve the article, would you mind implementing them? Thank you! LiatDo (talk) 12:14, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
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This Month in Education: May 2024
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This Month in Education: June 2024
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