Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files/2012 April 1

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April 1

File:Pamelacolemansmith001.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 01:01, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Pamelacolemansmith001.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

The earliest known publication we have for this image is the encyclopedia of Tarot; it is not clear this image was published before 1923 (note: published is not the same as created). Magog the Ogre (talk) 02:48, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Frontman.jpg

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File:Frontman.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Appears to be copied from a printed work. Eeekster (talk) 04:56, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Clubfashion2.jpg

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File:Clubfashion2.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Photo of TV screen. Eeekster (talk) 07:48, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Jeff redtie.jpg

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File:Jeff redtie.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Copyright notice in watermark. Eeekster (talk) 07:49, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Jeff red.jpg

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File:Jeff red.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Not likely to be the work of the uploader. Eeekster (talk) 08:00, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Jeff kolsworld.jpg

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File:Jeff kolsworld.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Appears to be a frame from a cartoon. Eeekster (talk) 08:00, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:EsperanzaOsmeña.jpg

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File:EsperanzaOsmeña.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Flickr user unlikely to be copyright holder. Kelly ^hi! 14:45, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:PacenciaLaurel.jpg

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File:PacenciaLaurel.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Flickr user unlikely to be copyright holder. Kelly ^hi! 14:46, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:New Hall Rivington Village.png

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as G7 by Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 15:08, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:New Hall Rivington Village.png (delete | talk | history | logs).

File:Great House Barn - before restoration.png (delete | talk | history | logs).

File:Rivington-Grammar-School-1900.png (delete | talk | history | logs).

File:Lee Lane Congregational Chapel - botton left of map.png (delete | talk | history | logs).

File:Rivington and Blackrod High School 1904.png (delete | talk | history | logs).

File:Inset Map Rivington Village 1904.png (delete | talk | history | logs).

File:Bishops-seal.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Images are copyright from 1904 by WM Fergussun Irvine. Irvine died in 1962 (or 1963)therefore it would not be in UK public domain until 2032 (authors death +70 years see Template:PD-UK) Unless the family of the deceased has released the copyright, it is a non-free image. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 20:24, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Have they been published? In that case, it might be {{PD-US-1923-abroad|2032}} (or {{PD-US-1923-abroad|2033}}). --Stefan2 (talk) 21:16, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

According to the source, it was published in A Short History of Rivington, by WM Fergussun Irvine, in 1904. Also, most of the above have been marked as db-self by the uploader. Actually most of his uploads have been marked as such. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 21:23, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, so they are free in the United States which is enough for Wikipedia but not for Commons. I would say keep, but the uploader's {{db-g7}} might cause them to go away anyway... --Stefan2 (talk) 21:31, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In response to a large number of deletion requests due to problems inside wikipedia itself and not connected to the actual images I tagged those images with db-self at todays date. There were no actual copyright issues. The old photographs, which on reflection are only of historic interest come from 'A Short History of Rivington Its Church and Its School' from my own digital copy of a book published in England in 1904, the book itself has been online for a while (my images were from my own book), where it is tagged as NOT_IN_COPYRIGHT, Call number: SRLF_UCLA:LAGE-1811082, Digitizing sponsor: Internet Archive, Book contributor: University of California Libraries '. The tiny maps are old so have no real value when google maps can locate the schools and the book itself is available on archive.org for free download or reading online (being out of copyright as is stated there). The maps are out of date as some buildings that existed in 1904 have since been demolished or left to fall down. I was until forced to respond to this a retired editor. --pl (talk) 01:28, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Orphan Images

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The result of the discussion was: deletedSkier Dude (talk) 02:21, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
All the images listed came from my own scans of the book A short history of the township of Rivington in the county of Lancaster with some account of the church and grammar school (1904)l now in public domain.

Due to edits by others correcting pages linked to the above the images would now be orphans and would thus qualify for deletion as such.--pl (talk) 01:46, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Rothwell-shield.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted as G7 by Malik Shabazz (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 00:02, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Rothwell-shield.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

File:Davenport-shield.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

File:Whittle-shield-impaled-on-arms-of-12th-baron.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

File:Willoughby-of-parham-shield.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Images look to be a photograph of a painting at a monument (specifically Willoughby Monument) but since there is no freedom of panorama in the UK for painted works (see Commons:Freedom_of_panorama#United_Kingdom) this is not free. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 20:22, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Note: most of the above have been marked as db-self by the uploader. -- ТимофейЛееСуда. 21:24, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The photographs were actually taken 19th Decemeber 2010 with permission of our Vicar and were extracts from a larger photograph of the stone monument to Hugh Willoughby, 15h Baron and his family in the Rivington Unitarian Chapel, in fact they are still on my memory card. --pl (talk) 01:53, 2 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Kelly Promo3.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Skier Dude (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 04:03, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Kelly Promo3.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Uploader seems to be pretending to be Kelly Rowland. Cloudbound (talk) 21:13, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:CampSnoopy.JPG

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File:CampSnoopy.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs).

Worlds of Fun is in the United States and I think that this counts as an artwork. No freedom of panorama for artworks in the United States. The date of the attraction is unknown and it is unknown if there is any copyright notice, but see Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Mickey Mouse - The Mad Doctor.png: all pictures of Mickey Mouse are unfree as long as Steamboat Willie is copyrighted. I assume that the same argument would apply to Snoopy. Stefan2 (talk) 21:26, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Park 048.jpg

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File:Park 048.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Appears to be in Thurston County, United States. It says that the sign is in the public domain. Why is the sign in the public domain? The crab and the thing to the left of the crab look particularly complex. Stefan2 (talk) 21:59, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Park 014.jpg

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File:Park 014.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Same as the above, except that there is also a complex fish on this one. Seems to be a work of a US state or county and not a federal work. Stefan2 (talk) 22:02, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Tipping bellydancer.jpg

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File:Tipping bellydancer.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Flickr link is dead, so there is no way to verify the licence. See also Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2012 April 1#File:From Belly Dancer to Stripper.jpg. Stefan2 (talk) 22:19, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Brettina, headband and Nanette Lepore.jpeg

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The result of the discussion was: keep. — ξ ^xplicit 23:56, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Brettina, headband and Nanette Lepore.jpeg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Source web site does not seem to mention any Creative Commons licence. Stefan2 (talk) 22:33, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I originally found the image on the page noted in the file's source (www.brettina.com/cc-by-sa.html), with a Creative Commons license indicated. Obviously that page no longer has the license notation; now it's just an alias to the current main Brettina.com page. With some searching, I found pages that looked like what I remember seeing on the site when I added the image to the Brettina page.

Archive.org indicates that the site had released some content as CC-by-SA; this text appears at the bottom of the page gallery.html 2010 June 20):

Creative Commons images

Brettina.com has made some images available for modification and reuse under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution-Sharealike 3.0 Unported License (CC-BY-SA), on our Creative Commons page.

The words "Creative Commons" there are linked to a page that Archive.org didn't archive until more than a year later. At that point, it looks like it just picked up an alias to the then-current Brettina.com main page: cc-by-sa.html 2011 July 8.

There's also a mirror of the old version of the site at brettina.nfshost.com, which includes a gallery.html similar to the Archive.org version, a cc-by-sa.html that Archive.org didn't have, and a copy of the headband photo looks just like the image under discussion here. Archive.org shows that the mirror pages and image have been there since 2011 July 14: gallery.html, cc-by-sa.html, and the headband image.

On a slightly related topic, the brettina.nfshost.com mirror has a somewhat cleaner version of the CD cover image than the version I contributed. I'm not sure which one more accurately represents the cover, or whether that makes a difference, but if this discussion resolves the "possibly unfree" question for the headband photo, it should resolve the question for that image too (though Archive.org doesn't have that image).

— Steve98052 (talk) 02:37, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm guessing that this page is enough evidence and that the file can be kept. It is too bad that the original website no longer contains the CC-BY-SA statement. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:23, 5 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

OK, thanks. I've removed the possibly unfree tag and added a statement explaining the CC-by-SA statement to the file page. Does it look good now? —Steve98052 (talk) 06:37, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Vote Tony Clarke.jpg

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The result of the discussion was: Delete Danger ^{High voltage!} 21:16, 11 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Vote Tony Clarke.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

The purpose of this photo appears to be the election poster, so I would say that this is not de minimis. British FOP doesn't cover many 2D things. Stefan2 (talk) 22:42, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- The purpose of this photo is the election poster and its context in its positioning which is fact. This discussion is just a waste of my time. Cj1340 (talk) 22:58, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  - Then clearly not de minimis, so this needs to go away due to lack of FOP. --Stefan2 (talk) 00:12, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Jerry haymes 02.jpg

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The result of the debate was: Delete; deleted by Explicit (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) AnomieBOT ⚡ 01:01, 10 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

File:Jerry haymes 02.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Says "fair use", "{{self}}" and "publicity photo". Contradicting statements, possibly unfree. Stefan2 (talk) 22:44, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:UWindsor Tree tops.JPG

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File:UWindsor Tree tops.JPG (delete | talk | history | logs).

"Photo taken by a Student Ambassador". Also not using the same camera model as the uploader's other photos. Stefan2 (talk) 22:47, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Entrance to Arboretum.jpg

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File:Entrance to Arboretum.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Unable to verify source/license. Kelly ^hi! 23:02, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:Mt. Storm Park.jpg

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File:Mt. Storm Park.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Unable to verify source/license. Kelly ^hi! 23:03, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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File:McKinley public school.jpg

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File:McKinley public school.jpg (delete | talk | history | logs).

Unable to verify source/license. Kelly ^hi! 23:04, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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