Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tray surfing (2nd nomination)

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The result was delete. --Core desat 07:51, 10 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Tray surfing

This is odd enough that I wanted to get consensus from the community. There are three separate things discussed here, non of which I think are notable. The first is surfing down a ice or snow covered hill with a tray (lunchroom, what have you). While there is no doubt this goes on, there isn't any indication this is any more notable then using any other object not designed explicitly for sledding. The second item discussed is placing the trays under the wheels of a car to execute an accelerated doughnut. There are no reliable sources that indicate the popularity of this, or if it is indeed tied to the Ghost ride the whip practice as stated in the article. The third thing discussed is surfing behind a car with the tray. This may be the most notable of the three, but again, kids have tied ropes to damn near anything and towed themselves behind cars. There are no sources that indicate this is any more notable then using a sled or a skateboard in a similar manner. I tried to see if there were good places where I could merge this information, but nothing seemed to fit into existing articles and this article is unsourced anyway, so merging would probably be a waste of time. Perhaps the community can find a proper solution, but if not, I wouldn't mind seeing this article go away. CosmicPenguin (Talk) 16:05, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - completely lacks notability, provides no WP:RS, and is clearly promoting the YouTube link at the end of the article. --Evb-wiki 16:23, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete as per nom not Notable Harlowraman 16:43, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Cosmic raises a good point by testing this. This is a fad, and as with many a college fad, will generally go unoticed by the press until someone gets killed, after which there is a wave of "notability", not to mention memorials. As a result this is the type of thing that we hope DOESN'T become notable. When you went to school, you might have heard about "elevator surfing" taking place down in Daytona Beach, but when did you first see it in the newspaper? After some poor fool plunged 10 stories down a shaft, no doubt. Since Wikipedians are known for their intelligence rather than their common sense, I say save a life, don't invoke WP:NOTE :| Mandsford 17:16, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Response Wait...what? Calgary 19:20, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Delete for Original research and notability. Also, fads are explicitely NOT wanted in an encyclopedia. "Someone please think of the children" isn't a valid arguement either, as saving lives isn't the goal of wikipedia. This seems to apply as well. Pharmboy 19:18, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Oh my, this is almost funny. Indeed, I do not see the notability of using a tray to slide down a hill, or a set of stairs, or any of the other meanings and such. Unless there are significant sources to confirm that this is a subject that is both factual and notable (which there aren't) I can't possibly concieve of keeping it. Calgary 19:20, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - a non-notable fad. The above keep vote notes that it's not notable, but urges us to "save a life". Sorry; I don't think the people who need that kind of help are going to be reading Wikipedia, and I definitely don't think that we have any interest promoting this fad. --Haemo 21:31, 5 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per WP:NEO - lack of "reliable secondary sources such as books and papers about the term—not books and papers that use the term" - This is not urbandictionary Corpx 04:39, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Keep if anything can be done to improve the relevance and verifiability of the content, which I believe it can be. This is not just a local or current fad, but has been done for decades at least. RandomCritic 15:40, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Delete College students certainly borrowed cafeteria trays and slid down snow covered hills on them decades ago (been there, done that). But this is just an improvised sled, and not so different from our grandparents sliding down snowy slopes sitting in the bread bowl or in a scoop shovel or kids sliding down a snowy hill on an inner tube today. It has noting in common with the Youtube of a car doing donuts with trays under its rear wheels, and nothing in common with the idiotic practice of being towed by a car while standing on a tray, or on a skateboard, or on a sled in winter. (All illustrations of Darwinism in action). It is a loosely connected set of 3 different things, and lacks references to show notability.Edison 15:52, 6 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.