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The result was delete. MBisanz talk 23:48, 7 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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The sources cited go nowhere near to establishing notability. None of them does more than establish that she exists and is a film actor. The main claim of significance in the article is that she played a "leading role" in "Doktorlar". I have searched through pages on various Turkish websites that certainly confirm that she acted in that film, but I have found nothing that makes it clear that her role was a major one. The article makes such statements as that she has played "alongside influential actors", which is almost always an attempt to imply notability by association for a person who lacks evidence of notability in their own right. I have found numerous apparently reliable Turkish sources that mention her, but none that give substantial coverage of her. If someone can do better than I have done at finding reliable independent sources then that will be fine, but everything I have seen makes this look like an attempt to use Wikipedia to publicise an actress who comes nowhere near to satisfying Wikipedia's notability guidelines. (If anyone wishes to search further, it may help to know that her surname is actually Göksun, rather than Goksun.) JamesBWatson (talk) 13:24, 9 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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"Doktorlar" is a TV series, based on Grey's Anatomy. For the last season she took over the leading role from Yasemin Ergene, which made her breakthrough. Here are some links to the articles from reliable Turkish newspapers and the Turkish wikipedia page of "Doktorlar"
She is now playing in the "Bir zamanlar Osmanlı" TV series, which is a major production. She can be seen in the official poster for the series, second from the left. http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dosya:Bir_zamanlar_osmanl%C4%B1_k%C4%B1yam_1._sezon_resim.jpg
The "influential actors" that are stated are Fırat Tanış and Türkan Şoray, and they have very important scenes together. [1]
It is understandable that it is hard to measure someone's notability from outside of a country, but she is as notable and well-know as the other Turkish actresses that have articles on wikipedia.
--tmr (talk) 11:48, 12 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
References
- ^ "Türkan Şoray'dan 'gerçek' Osmanlı tokadı!". haberturk.
- ^ "Leyla Göksun and Kutsi the male lead of Doktorlar making an appearance in a morning TV show in a Turkish television". Show TV.
- ^ "Incredible stories of young actresses". milliyet.com.tr.
- ^ . hurriyet http://www.hurriyet.com.tr/magazin/televizyon/16988366.asp.
{{cite web}}: Missing or empty|title=(help) - ^ "Leyla Goksun fan page".
- ^ "Turkish wikipedia article "Doktorlar"".
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- Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, —cyberpower ChatLimited Access 18:53, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete I can't find anything that would put this person past WP:ACTOR. Maybe it's the lack of English sources, but if we can't source a BLP then it needs to go. No prejudice to userifying and re-creation later once it can be sourced. §FreeRangeFrog 20:27, 30 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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