- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Sourcing is a major concern which wasn't met, being a bit actor isn't a mention of notabilt per WP:BIO, Secret account 15:26, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Non-notable child actor. Has appeared in a few bit parts and "relativly (sic) minor roles". Google has IMDB and a few other directories, but nothing that really asserts notability. Lankiveil (talk) 06:55, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note, speedy was declined, so bringing it here. Lankiveil (talk) 06:56, 5 January 2008 (UTC).[reply]
- Delete Fails WP:BIO. JetLover (talk) (Report a mistake) 06:56, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep the role of "Prince Charming" in the live action feature film "JACK AND THE BEANSTALK" seems notable. JERRY talk contribs 07:23, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Also: Winner iPOP Soap Scene Division 4M, Winner iPOP Swimsuit Divison 4M, 1st Runner Up: Star of the Year, 1st Runner Up: Model of the Year, Top Ten Commercial, Top Ten Fashion Print, Top Ten Runway, Signed with Trilogy Talent and Osbrink Agency, Booked International Commercial for Legoland, Appeared in a national KFC commercial, Has a role in the "National Treasure II" with Nicolas Cage, Recently did an episode of SCRUBS, Did episodes of Desperate Housewives and Cold Case. JERRY talk contribs 07:30, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The live action movie, which is so notable it doesn't even have an article on Wikipedia or even mentioned at Jack and the Beanstalk, has a bare bones entry at IMDb (basically just the cast listing, which is not always reliable since they have had BS cast listings before) and IMDb even lists movies that are just rumored, is not listed at Box Office Mojo [1] or The Numbers [2]. In fact, the ONLY site online where I can see any mention of a live action JATB is IMDb. Everything else this kid has done are nothing more than bit roles and non-notable stuff. TJ Spyke 08:44, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Also: Winner iPOP Soap Scene Division 4M, Winner iPOP Swimsuit Divison 4M, 1st Runner Up: Star of the Year, 1st Runner Up: Model of the Year, Top Ten Commercial, Top Ten Fashion Print, Top Ten Runway, Signed with Trilogy Talent and Osbrink Agency, Booked International Commercial for Legoland, Appeared in a national KFC commercial, Has a role in the "National Treasure II" with Nicolas Cage, Recently did an episode of SCRUBS, Did episodes of Desperate Housewives and Cold Case. JERRY talk contribs 07:30, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Keep - why not? WP:CHANCE and all that. Xdenizen (talk) 07:58, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete Unsourced, no proof of notability. So it fails WP:V and WP:N. TJ Spyke 08:29, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete. Not (yet) notable. No prejudice to recreation if and when he falls within our notabilitiy constraints - unfortunately, he does not yet fall within those constraints. Good luck, kid, and don't let Hollyweird kill ya. --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 17:27, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete: you call it article? i'm not. It's small, unwikified, etc. QVFD --Drhlajos (talk) 18:01, 5 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- That is not deletion criteria. Your comment will be discounted by a discerning admin on closing this discussion. Please have a read over WP:AFD. JERRY talk contribs 03:10, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- sorry :) i'm a bit confused beetwen UNC and WP. then I still must say, that the article is about a not really notable person, and still unverified. so i still say delete per nom --Drhlajos (talk) 12:01, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per TJ above. Failing to win a bunch of awards, doing a couple of bit parts and commercials, and supposedly appearing in a small part in a live-action movie which hasn't been released yet and may or may not actually exist, does not equate to notability. Also fails WP:V, because there are no non-trivial sources about the subject. MichelleG (talk) 03:50, 6 January 2008 (UTC).[reply]
- Keep This article needs to be re-written, but this actor is notable. Usually an IMDB Pro score below 50,000 is a reputable actor. When I looked up Billy Unger's score, it is in the top 6,000s. Very notable "named" roles, including a short recurring on Desperate Housewives. For the film National Treasure: Book of Secrets his role is listed as "Charles Gates" (perhaps playing a son of Nicolas Cage's character "Ben Gates"?). I'm going to help out with citing sources, but I'll need other fellow Wikipedians to help clean this up. Definitely worth keeping once it's in the proper format. TGreenburgPR (talk) 16:21, 6 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- If you can help by providing notability, then that's perfect. IMDB, as a whole, is considered unreliable though - and that said, I'm not sure how Pro helps out in this case,. Furthermore, I'm not sure "reputable" would help, and playing the son of a fictional character isn't really worth much unto itself - if the character in question (in the NT2 example you give) is notable as far as a cast character, that might have some weight to it. --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 19:06, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - lacks media coverage Addhoc (talk) 15:18, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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