Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bedřich Slaný

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect‎ to 1962 Speedway World Team Cup. There is consensus against leaving the page as a standalone article. The sole objection to the redirect did not put forward any coherent argument against such a redirect, and I doubt any such argument would stand up in RfD anyway. Owen× ☎ 12:42, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bedřich Slaný

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Not notable sportsperson without notable sporting achievements. Sources only refer to passing mentions and sports results. Searching the internet for "Bedřich Slaný" shows other people with the same name. FromCzech (talk) 05:35, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Motorsport, and Czech Republic. FromCzech (talk) 05:35, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: The Czech version cs:Bedřich Slaný of the article says (without a reference) that he died on 11 October 1980. Perhaps a news article about him or an obituary in a reliable source was published shortly after his death. Someone with access to Czechoslovak news media from 1980 might want to search for references from October 1980. The Wikipedia Library would also be worth searching. If you find one or more useful references, please add them to the Czech version cs:Bedřich Slaný as well., Eastmain (talk • contribs) 06:21, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Clearly notable because he competed in the final of the Speedway World Cup, the sport's pinnacle. Pyeongchang (talk) 08:41, 25 July 2024 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Pyeongchang (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD. [reply]
The sport's pinnacle are the Olympic Games and athletes do not meet the condition of notability just by participating in them. If you say 'keep' you have to objectively demonstrate notability according to WP:GNG and WP:NMOTORSPORT. FromCzech (talk) 09:09, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Note: The Olympic Games are not the sports pinnacle, there is no speedway at the Olympic Games as is the case for numerous other sports. For information the pinnacle of speedway is the World Individual championships (now called the Grand Prix) and the World Cup. I have since added additional references from books and Newspaper Archive. Pyeongchang (talk) 09:22, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Of course, I meant in general that if for Olympic sports the participation of an athlete in the Olympics is not a criterion of notability, the participation of a speedway racer in the Speedway World Cup is also not a criterion of notability. The sources you have added here and elsewhere do not demonstrate notability according to Wikipedia criteria.
Redirect to 1962 Speedway World Team Cup may be an alternative to deletion. FromCzech (talk) 09:40, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect, we do not have sources demonstrating GNG is met, only passing mentions. JoelleJay (talk) 23:40, 25 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep for that he was one of the title clinching finalist of a world championship event. WP:ATD will be to draftify for expansion. I agree with Pyeongchang's statement that it is the pinnacle of speedway. SpacedFarmer (talk) 16:16, 26 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- This is not a valid notability criterion. NSPORT requires GNG be met. JoelleJay (talk) 03:05, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- "title clinching finalist of a world championship event" does not appear in WP:NMOTORSPORT as an accomplishment which leads to a presumption of notability. 5225_C (talk • contributions) 03:43, 27 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:22, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete It lacks independent coverage in reliable sources beyond brief mentions in secondary sources. It fails to establish notability according to WP:N. Yakov-kobi (talk) 12:50, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
He's mentioned a number of times on Hungarian newspaper archive Arcanum – after he died an international race was named in his honor: "Druhý ročník Memoriálu Bedřicha Slaného je dalším významným mezinárodním závodem" [The second year of the Bedřich Slaného Memorial is another important international race]. The fact that an international race of some importance was named in his honor shows significance. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:08, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete does not meet WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 02:36, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Relisting as there is still no consensus. My closer instinct says to Redirect this article, which would retain the content, but I don't see a consensus to do this.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 06:41, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@BeanieFan11 ,@5225C , pinging participants in this discussion who have not cast a !vote. LibStar (talk) 02:58, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete – Unconvinced by the arguments put forward by keep !voters which are based on personal standards rather than any sort of policy. I acknowledge the source check conducted by BeanieFan11, but all mentions I saw on Arcanum were routine.trivial mentions, not significant coverage of the individual. I also do not believe that a memorial race in any way indicates significance or notability, such a gesture is not unusual in any field. 1962 Speedway World Team Cup is not a suitable target and I oppose redirecting there. 5225_C (talk • contributions) 03:22, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.