Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Adventist University of Africa

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. There is general agreement that this article should be kept based on the school's status as an accredited tertiary institution, a longstanding precedent. While the article currently lacks independent references demonstrating that this meets WP:GNG, as noted on WP:SCHOOLOUTCOMES#2, coverage may not be readily available online. (non-admin closure) gobonobo ⁺ ^c 18:10, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Adventist University of Africa

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There doesn't seem to be anything notable about this university. All three sources in the article are primary and nothing comes up in a search except for trivial coverage and some articles in an Adventist news source. So, I'm not finding anything that would pass WP:GNG. Adamant1 (talk) 07:26, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 09:39, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Africa-related deletion discussions. Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 09:39, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, - Flori4nK ^{t • c} 14:10, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Plenty of small private universities in Africa come and go. I cannot find a single significant reference to this one on Google books. —Brigade Piron (talk) 11:36, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Accredited tertiary schools have been traditionally kept, this isn't a fly-by-night institution. [1], [2], [3], The Adventist Review is *the* major news source for Seventh-Day Adventists, a worldwide denomination of more than 20 million members, so while information from that source should be reviewed carefully for neutrality, it should not be summarily discounted. 78.26 _{(spin me / revolutions)} 04:23, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The Adventist Review is certainly a notable periodical, but it is clearly not an "independent of the subject" for the purposes of WP:GNG. The question still remains about why there is so little coverage in other newspapers (of which Kenya has plenty) and published studies. —Brigade Piron (talk) 08:15, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Sandstein 10:36, 21 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep as per 78.26, tertiary institutions are usually kept and the references provided verify it's status, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 21:04, 25 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep One of the source (official magazine of the organization) states "AUA is the only world church–sponsored institution of higher education located on the African continent"[4]. I am convinced with [5], [6], and the subject is registered with the Commission for University Education. It is ranked 31 [7] in such a country which spread over 580,367 km2 with a population of 47,564,296. It looks notable to me. TheBirdsShedTears (talk) 03:45, 26 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

TheBirdsShedTears, the first claim you mention is blatantly wrong - there are plenty of Catholic- and Protestant-funded universities across Africa. I assume by "world church-sponsored", it means Adventist. The "All-Africa" link is about the different "Adventist University of West Africa" based in Liberia (!) and the Rwandan link refers to a separate Rwandan-based "Adventist University of East-Central Africa" (see 1) which is based in Kigali. —Brigade Piron (talk) 08:12, 28 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I think in that passage "church-sponserd" refers to Sponosored by the "wolrd seventh-day Adventist" Church. Some of the wording there may also go down to how Pontifical Universities differ from other Catholic Universities. This is an intentional choice of wording.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:06, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per the spinmeister. ——Serial 11:41, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Keep While we are starting to look to be a little more discriminating in what secondary school articles we accept, for tertiary institutions if we can verrify they exist and actually provide course work, and thus are more than a scam or a diploma mill, we will keep the article. This applies to any tertiary institution ever, anywhere. The sourcing is way above that truly minimal standard.John Pack Lambert (talk) 14:06, 29 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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