Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abu Sayyaf (Islamic State leader)

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The result was keep‎. ✗plicit 03:19, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Abu Sayyaf (Islamic State leader)

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I'm not seeing any indication that this meets WP:LASTING here. Routine death in long civil war. Cutlass ^Ciera 22:42, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: People, Terrorism, and Tunisia. Shellwood (talk) 23:38, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Not sure the oil and gas minister for the IS is notable, this many years later. Article is strictly around his death, without much before or after... I don't find any coverage other than about the capture. Oaktree b (talk) 23:48, 9 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Not a routine death in a long civil war. Was a key senior figure how "ISIS became the world's wealthiest terror group." Subject to a number of WP:SIGCOV in the form of multiple in-depth researched profiles testifying to his importance after his death, including in NBC, WSJ, meeting WP:GNG.

Longhornsg (talk) 01:05, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Was a key senior figure" is not going to cut it in terms of notability. The main concern of no lasting effect is in that coverage cuts off. Cutlass ^Ciera 03:01, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Was" because he's dead. The relevant policy here is WP:NBASIC, which the coverage suffices. WP:LASTING applies to events, not people, anyway. Longhornsg (talk) 04:33, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:Lasting does not apply to people. It is part of the event SNG, and as such does not apply to anything that is not an event. The only people-related guideline would be BIO1E, which does not apply here (many events). PARAKANYAA (talk) 07:29, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless, the article and the coverage, as stated by Oaktree b, is strictly about his death. There isn't any other evidence that he is notable besides his way of death. Cutlass ^Ciera 14:57, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is very clearly not true. The WSJ piece is about his entire life. PARAKANYAA (talk) 10:11, 11 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Longhornsg. There does seem to be sourcing attesting to his importance. PARAKANYAA (talk) 01:53, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:16, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep per Longhornsg Andre🚐 04:25, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Per longhorn. WP:SIGCOV met. DarmaniLink (talk) 13:53, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Also as per Longhornsg. Enough here for me to satisfy notability MaskedSinger (talk) 16:36, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Clearly meets notability. Buffs (talk) 16:52, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: Seems notable with plenty of reliable sources to support article. GMH Melbourne (talk) 13:47, 20 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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