Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/2024 Los Angeles County shootings

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The result was delete‎. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:45, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

2024 Los Angeles County shootings

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This shooting does not appear to have drawn any sustained coverage outside of local routine coverage. Fails WP:NEVENT, particularly WP:LASTING. ~ Pbritti (talk) 07:25, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Crime, Events, Firearms, and California. Pbritti (talk) 07:25, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please consider the fact that because this happened in the United States events like these are quickly removed from the news cycle. Raskuly (talk) 07:33, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. For exactly that reason events like these are not automatically notable. Athel cb (talk) 08:30, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: as per above Lordseriouspig 09:21, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please consider doing this to other articles on the List of mass shootings in the United States article then since this article's deletion seems inevitable at this point right after you had my other article deleted. Raskuly (talk) 10:52, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Note categories at the bottom of the article, and the navbox that has five years of shootings around the United States. Why delete this one, and keep all the rest? I'm surprised there is not a Wikipedia project for this subject. — Maile (talk) 13:02, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Those other shootings have sustained coverage because of their notable elements beyond the fact that multiple people were injured or killed (a tragic but non-notable event). For example, this shooting that I remember happening near me a few years ago achieved nationwide sustained coverage beyond ROUTINE due to the shooter's radicalization. ~ Pbritti (talk) 14:18, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Then could an argument in favor of keeping this article be that this is an instance of gang-related violence in which the targets were apparent random individuals? Raskuly (talk) 17:59, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Not unless this incident was characterized as notable for that reason and the incident received sustained coverage. Most smaller mass shootings (4–8 victims) do not meet this threshold. ~ Pbritti (talk) 20:28, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  I guess something that is similar to what you mean would be the 2022 Sacramento shooting. Raskuly (talk) 22:43, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia doesn't consider the existence of other articles relevant to whether the article being discussed should exist. Each article stands on its own merits. If the subjects of those other articles didn't receive significant coverage after it fell out of the news cycle, then they should be deleted too. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 02:02, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: I agree, it never got national coverage, and so fails WP:NEVENT Carson004 (talk) 18:58, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Agreeing with Carson004. The shootings also didn't get much local/state coverage as much as other shootings in California, and therefore again, fails WP:NEVENT.

Rippling4472 (talk) 00:50, 20 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. No sustained coverage or major societal ramifications. Random news stories are not notable events. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 02:00, 21 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.