Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/104.9 FM Hinton, Alberta

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The result was delete. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 09:29, 21 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

104.9 FM Hinton, Alberta

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Delete. Proposed radio station which was granted license approval in 2014, but for which I cannot find any verifiable evidence that it's actually operating yet — its Recnet profile is still just listed as "Hinton 40" (i.e. a placeholder) rather than an actual CXXX-FM call sign, and the "our stations" list on the parent company's own website still fails to include it. And, in fact, technically the original license approval is now expired, but I can't find any indication on the CRTC website of an extension ever having been applied for or granted — which means that this is effectively dead if we still can't source otherwise. WP:WPRS has sometimes played fast and loose with the WP:NMEDIA criteria, letting an article stand as soon as license approval is granted but looking the other way on the condition that a station has to have established its broadcasting history by actually launching, but we have to crack down on that. The time for an article about a new radio station is once it's actually reliably sourceable as actually being on the air (or at least having a confirmed and relatively imminent launch date) — if all you can write is that a radio station has a license to eventually launch, but you can't source that it has launched, then it's WP:TOOSOON, because radio licenses do expire unbuilt far more often than one might wish. Bearcat (talk) 21:47, 13 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 21:48, 13 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Alberta-related deletion discussions. Bearcat (talk) 21:48, 13 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Station only existed "on paper" and did not actually broadcast. As such, article does not meet NMEDIA or GNG. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 01:05 on August 14, 2016 (UTC)
Delete: Apparently, although the CRTC website doesn't mention it, Newcap was granted another year to build the station in late 2015, so the permit now expires in February 2017. That having been said, the presumption of notability for broadcast stations does not apply to stations that haven't launched at this juncture, and there's still no guarantee the station will launch, and there's nothing to indicate the station has launched, so it's still too soon for an article. --WCQuidditch ☎ ✎ 22:40, 15 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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