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Bare URL tags

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These aren't very useful. The time spent doing this would be better spent using WP:REFILL to fix the problem rather than telling other people to do it. ♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 13:56, 16 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Ianmacm, I also manually fill out bare URLs, typically PDFs that can't be done with refill. It takes no time at all for me because I'm using a script. I think it's more helpful to have an accurate count of the number of bare URLs and to have them flagged in articles so editors know to fix them. — Qwerfjkltalk 14:04, 16 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
I'm sorry, but your reply didn't make any sense at all. All you did was reword his statement of the problem you're creating, except you actually said you think it's inexplicably better to count problems than to fix them. In other words, WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT. WP:SOFIXIT. Stop running a script to tag bare URLs instead of simply running the script that fixes them. Why on earth would anyone do that? That's a rhetorical question. I've lost track of how many times I'm seeing this happen, where somebody immediately just follows you with WP:REFILL like I just did.[1] I see you're one of those super cool bot makers, and I've seen another bot that can automate citation formatting, so can you just have a bot scan for bare urls and another try to fix them? Thank you very much. — Smuckola(talk) 20:00, 19 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Smuckola, the bot for fixing bare URLs is Citation bot (and it is limited in what it fixes). The problem with almost all automated means of filling out bare URLs is that they are inaccurate, often very badly, because they abuse metadata fields. PDFs typically can't be filled at all. So whilst I could run something like ReFill automatically, it would likely cause more problems than it fixed. This means that at best I can fill bare URLs semi-automatically, which is what I do - alongside tagging them, which is much easier to do. I've lost track of how many times I'm seeing this happen, where somebody immediately just follows you with WP:REFILL like I just did. That's the whole point, to draw attention to this issue. Qwerfjkltalk 09:54, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Any way at least the tagging of bare URLs could be made by a bot? Right now you've been flooding watchlists for at least a few days. 1234qwer1234qwer4 14:42, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Fixing bare URLs is a job and appreciated. Some possible old threads of interest, you may already know about:
-- GreenC 20:25, 17 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
If you are interested, take a look at Help:VisualEditor#Editing_references. Hope it helps. AmritR012 (talk) 17:41, 18 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
1234qwer1234qwer4, well, I think at least part of the point of tagging is to draw attention to the issue. — Qwerfjkltalk 16:46, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

What's Verifiable & Reliable sources and what's not?

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Hi! I have a very confliction feelling about Verifiability & Reliable sources. I know that that social media/User-generated content, aren't reliable or verifiabile sources and are mostly "unacceptable" (even though that's Hipocrisia and Wikipedia itself are a User-generated content website). Can you explain me, how some Web series/shows such as "The Amazing Digital Circus", "Hazbin Hotel" or "Lackadaisy" and it's Wikipedia articles are even acceptable. The Web series and shows that (originally) appeared on a "User-generated content" platform that would be by Policies and guidelines of Wikipedia have been "unacceptable". Does those topics are exeption to the principle?

77.65.108.117 (talk) 18:13, 19 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

77.65.108.117, because the articles are about the topics - the sources they use should not be user-generated. Wikipedia is also considered an unreliable source, and shouldn't be used as a reference. — Qwerfjkltalk 09:49, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Question from Joewilson55555 on User:Joewilson55555/sandbox (21:47, 19 August 2024)

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Hi! I hope you're well. I am new to Wikipedia and I'd like to know if there's any coding needed and if so, how to do it. Thanks! --Joewilson55555 (talk) 21:47, 19 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Joewilson55555, it depends on your knowledge of coding - for example, see mw:How to become a MediaWiki hacker. — Qwerfjkltalk 09:47, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Tech News: 2024-34

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MediaWiki message delivery 00:50, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Bare refs and Citation bot

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Try to support you on "Changed bare reference to CS1/2" with Citation bot. Unfortunately the bot is currently experiencing a high load (Toolforge). Grimes2 (talk) 11:11, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Grimes2, is REFILL working? — Qwerfjkltalk 11:19, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Yes, but it has no batch mode (I think). reFill produces many errors, for example usurped urls. You have to check every edit. reFill is also on toolforge, so they should have the same high load problem. Grimes2 (talk) 11:31, 20 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Qwerfjkl (bot) – Al3xaSp3aker

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Page: SpongeBob_SquarePants_(film_series)

Diff: Special:Diff/1236819355

Why is it saying I added in a URL?

Al3xaSp3aker (talk) 20:23, 21 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Al3xaSp3aker, it's saying you added a bare url, because you haven't provided a title for the URL. — Qwerfjkltalk 10:25, 22 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Oh. Ok Al3xaSp3aker (talk) 12:02, 22 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

BareURLinline.js Adding " /" to br tags

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Hey,

Just heads up, BareURLinline.js added space and a forward slash to br tags on Ivanhoé Cambridge Vasusrir429 (talk) 00:56, 22 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Vasusrir429, yes, this is because some syntax highlighters don't recognise <br>. — Qwerfjkltalk 10:24, 22 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Good news! The trailing slash is no longer needed. See an update to the syntax highlighter documentation. It has changed my life! – Jonesey95 (talk) 12:35, 23 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Jonesey95, ah, good to know, thanks. — Qwerfjkltalk 13:17, 23 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Sign up for the language community meeting on August 30th, 15:00 UTC

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MassXFD bug

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Hi Qwerfjkl! I am back from vacation; CFD is my tomorrow project. But I am here to report a minor bug with MassXFD: {{subst:RFDNote}} does not contain a signature, so my message at Special:Diff/1241029025 was unsigned. Thanks for all the work you do with scripts, HouseBlaster (talk · he/they) 08:31, 24 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

HouseBlaster,   Fixed. I did actually notice this, I just forgot to fix whilst I was fixing this bug. — Qwerfjkltalk 11:22, 24 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Haha. Thank you so much, as always :) HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 18:48, 24 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

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MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:10, 26 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

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Qwerfjkl (bot) – Haroldwinstanley

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Page: Peter_Pan_&_Wendy

Diff: Special:Diff/1238452595

Apparently there is a titling issue on the page I edited which has allegedly caused referencing problems, but I can’t find what the problem is…

Comment/question:

Haroldwinstanley (talk) 19:40, 27 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Haroldwinstanley, you added
<ref>{{cite web|url= https://www.taurusworldstuntawards.com/awards/winners-and-nominees-2024/#:~:text=Peter%20Pan%20%26%20Wendy,-Peter%20Pan%2C%20Wendy&text=The%20stunts%2C%20technical%20stunt%20rigging,actors%20to%20create%20the%20illusion.|accessdate=August 04, 2024}}</ref>

Which is missing |title=. — Qwerfjkltalk 10:33, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Qwerfjkl (bot) – OpalYosutebito

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Page: Favre-Leuba

Diff: Special:Diff/1241743868

Comment/question: the bot thought that I made a CS1 error (more specifically, a bare URL), but to my knowledge, the edit had no bare URLs...

OpalYosutebito (talk) 03:50, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

OpalYosutebito,
<ref name="watchgecko">{{cite web|url=https://www.watchgecko.com/blogs/magazine/a-watch-brand-that-has-been-conquering-frontiers-for-283-years|website=WatchGecko|last=Quinn|first=Jon}}</ref>

is missing |title=. — Qwerfjkltalk 10:34, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
Oh. I see now. I think I was just sleep deprived when I read the diff, lol - OpalYosutebito (talk) 11:34, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Qwerfjkl (bot) – Vycl1994

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Page: Trevor_Richards_(baseball)

Diff: Special:Diff/1242680250

Qwerfjkl states that there is a bare url in the diff, but I replaced one source with another, more reliable one. Neither the original source or the more reliable source were bare URLs Vycl1994 (talk) 05:50, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Vycl1994 (talk) 05:50, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Vycl1994, the new source is missing |title=, as was the old one. — Qwerfjkltalk 10:35, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Bare URL; tool to convert to citation format?

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I used to use Toolforge, but that has stopped working. Do you know a tool I could use? Many thanks for any thoughts Asto77 (talk) 13:24, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply

Asto77, what do you mean by "Toolforge"? Toolforge hosts a variety of tools. — Qwerfjkltalk 15:09, 28 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
This is the one I used to use; https://refill.toolforge.org/
Best wishes Asto77 (talk) 20:39, 29 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
now at https://refill.toolforge.org/ng/. best wishes Asto77 (talk) 00:46, 30 August 2024 (UTC)Reply