Dhakaiyas
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Welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits to Islam in Bangladesh, it appears that you have added original research, which is against Wikipedia's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. Additionally, when editing articles please adhere to Wikipedia's policy on citing sources. Unreferenced additions will be removed. Thank you for your understanding. Hadal (talk) 21:07, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- Bangladesh has always been sunni since its conversion to Islam. Among the early sects shia have always had some presence in Bangladesh but there is no mention of significant mutazilite or kharijite presence in the records. The shias, who were viewed as followers of Abdullah Ibn Saba, were never accepted into the mainstream of Islam. Sunni Islam or Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat considers deviant sects to be "munafiq murtad" or hypocrite apostates and are considered more distant from Islam than those who openly deny Islam. Among the later sects wahhabis and deobandis are notable. Wahhabis, who were considered a deviant sect like the kharijites and mushabbiha because of extremism, denial of taqlid and ziyarat, anthropomorphism, etc have been presented as orthodox muslims by the related deobandi sect and many have accepted it because deobandis do not openly admit that they are not sunnis to new followers and their control of the Islamic Foundation has been backed by India and other powers. Even then Bangladesh remains a largely sunni majority country different from how they are often presented as either wahhabi deobandis or syncretic atheists/marxists who worship graves and many Bangladeshis consider it the reason behind why Bangladeshis are often persecuted. Dhakaiyas (talk) 21:44, 15 August 2024 (UTC)
- I am a sunni muslim like most Bangladeshis. Bangladesh has always been sunni since its conversion to Islam. Among the early sects shia have always had some presence in Bangladesh but there is no mention of significant mutazilite or kharijite presence in the records. The shias, who were viewed as followers of Abdullah Ibn Saba, were never accepted into the mainstream of Islam. Sunni Islam or Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat considers deviant sects to be "munafiq murtad" or hypocrite apostates and are considered more distant from Islam than those who openly deny Islam. Among the later sects wahhabis and deobandis are notable. Wahhabis, who were considered a deviant sect like the kharijites and mushabbiha because of extremism, denial of taqlid and ziyarat, anthropomorphism, etc have been presented as orthodox muslims by the related deobandi sect and many have accepted it because deobandis do not openly admit that they are not sunnis to new followers and their control of the Islamic Foundation has been backed by India and other powers. Even then Bangladesh remains a largely sunni majority country different from how they are often presented as either wahhabi deobandis or half hindu syncretic atheists/marxists who worship graves and many Bangladeshis consider it the reason behind why Bangladeshis are often persecuted.
- Wahhabis, deobandis and kharijites prevail in countries such as Pakistan, Saudi Kingdom, Afghanistan, Qatar, UAE, Oman, Libya, etc while shias form the majority in Iran, Iraq, Bahrain and Azerbaijan. In Pakistan wahhabis and deobandis form the majority among Pashtuns but Punjabis, who often mention their true religion to be Punjabi nationalism, have almost always worked to empower the wahhabis and deobandis. This inclination to support wahhabis and deobandis is also shared by the people of Balochistan who usually claim that they are religiously secular. In Bangladesh only Sylhet Division, Mymensingh District, Chandpur District, etc are majority wahhabi and deobandi regions due to conversion during Pakistan's rule and thereafter and even fultolis, who in reality belong to the Jaunpuri subschool of Wahhabism/Deobandism, are some of the few wahhabis and deobandis who appear almost indistinguishable from sunni muslims. But Sylhet was and still remains the holiest place for the people in other regions of the country because they are sunni majority regions and sunni muslims consider Hazrat Shahjalal rahmatullahi alayhi to be a great awliya of Allah and visit his mazar shareef with the intention of ziyarat just like they visit the mazar shareefs of other awliya of Allah all around the world. Even though the majority of Bangladeshis find converting to Wahhabism and Deobandism to be reprehensible, wahhabis and deobandis wield more power now across the whole country mainly because of India (and also China, Europe and maybe jews, Americans, etc). Dhakaiyas (talk) 01:35, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- I am sorry for the previous two replies. Forget about them. What I want to say is this is what I want to post as an overview to denominations but you removed it. You can bring up whatever exaggerated versions of Wikipedia rules you want but what I want to know is are you removing it because you do not want the truth to be known?
- "Bangladesh has always been sunni since its conversion to Islam. Among the early sects shia have always had some presence in Bangladesh but there is no mention of significant mutazilite or kharijite presence in the records. The shias, who were viewed as followers of Abdullah Ibn Saba, were never accepted into the mainstream of Islam. Sunni Islam or Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat considers deviant sects to be "munafiq murtad" or hypocrite apostates and are considered more distant from Islam than those who openly deny Islam. Among the later sects wahhabis and deobandis are notable. Wahhabis, who were considered a deviant sect like the kharijites and mushabbiha because of extremism, denial of taqlid and ziyarat, anthropomorphism, etc have been presented as orthodox muslims by the related deobandi sect and many have accepted it because deobandis do not openly admit that they are not sunnis to new followers and their control of the Islamic Foundation has been backed by India and other powers. Even then Bangladesh remains a largely sunni majority country different from how they are often presented as either wahhabi deobandis or half hindu syncretic atheists/marxists who worship graves and many Bangladeshis consider it the reason behind why Bangladeshis are often persecuted" Dhakaiyas (talk) 02:07, 16 August 2024 (UTC)
- I am posting it a second time, please do not take it personally. Dhakaiyas (talk) 21:04, 17 August 2024 (UTC)
Welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits to Qadiriyya, it appears that you have added original research, which is against Wikipedia's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. Thank you. Mosesheron (talk) 21:10, 31 August 2024 (UTC)
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