Talk:William FitzRobert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester

Latest comment: 3 months ago by Ealdgyth in topic Ancestry

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I can't check the Avisa of Gloucester marriage. [1] says Geoffrey FitzPiers married Aveline de Clare. That is consistent with Roger de Clare, 3rd Earl of Hertford. Charles Matthews (talk) 13:56, 19 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

OK, it now appears that she was the second of Geoffrey's three wives[2]. Charles Matthews (talk) 14:02, 19 February 2008 (UTC)Reply

Ancestry

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Hello, I suggest this ancestries of him and his children by using the example of his son Robert FitzWilliam:

Sources:

  • Bernard Burke, Ashworth P. Burke (1934). A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage. 1934
  • Marjorie Chibnall (1991), The Empress Matilda: Queen Consort, Queen Mother and Lady of the English, London, UK: Basil Blackwell ISBN 9780631157373
  • D. Crouch, "Robert of Gloucester's Mother and Sexual Politics in Norman Oxfordshire", Historical Research, 72 (1999) pp 323–332.
  • Hollister, C. Warren (2001). Frost, Amanda Clark (ed.). Henry I. New Haven: Yale University Press. ISBN 0300088582.
  • Oram, Richard; David: The King Who Made Scotland, (Gloucestershire, 2004).
  • Frederick Lewis Weis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall. Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700: Lineages from Alfred the Great, Charlemagne, Malcolm of Scotland, Robert the Strong, and Other Historical Individuals. 2008 ISBN 0806317523, ISBN 9780806317526

References

  1. ^ a b c d e f g h i j Complete Peerage, v. III, p. 167.
  2. ^ a b c d e f g h i j David Crouch, Historical Research, 1999
  3. ^ a b c d e f g h i j k A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Peerage and Baronetage, the Privy Council, Knightage, and Companionage, pp 26, 32
  4. ^ a b Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 62, 118, 123, 156–157
  5. ^ a b c d e f g h i Oram, David, p. 10
  6. ^ a b c d e f g Hollister Henry I pp. 363-364
  7. ^ a b c d e f Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 118, 123
  8. ^ a b Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 118
  9. ^ a b c Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 156–157
  10. ^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 62, 105, 109, 142
  11. ^ a b c d Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 52, 58, 62 Cite error: The named reference "<ref9" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).
  12. ^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 62
  13. ^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 52, 62
  14. ^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, pp 51–52, 62
  15. ^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 62
  16. ^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 62
  17. ^ Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700, p. 62

Dmitry Azikov (talk) 09:36, 3 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

The important bits of the ancestry are already in the article - who his father was. The rest of it isn't useful to understanding the life of William. Again - I point to WP:NOTGENEALOGY. We are not a genealogical work and should not present such information when biographies of the subject do not do so. And again, many of these works are not very reliable - Weis and Burke are not good sources for this information. Also - the use of the name "Robert FitzRoy" is deceptive - we don't have that as an alternate name for Robert nor should we put that Robert's maternal grandfather was certain - Robert's article makes it clear that this is not a certain parentage for Robert's mother. Ealdgyth (talk) 12:15, 3 July 2024 (UTC)Reply