Talk:Pwllheli

Lyrics in Revolution 9?

Whilst one person's interpretation is of hearing the word "Pwllheli" (see http://www.stevesbeatles.com/songs/revolution_9.asp), the following sites are some of many which list the lyrics of this song. None refers to "Pwllheli".

• http://www.sing365.com/music/Lyric.nsf/Revolution-9-lyrics-The-Beatles/3F372FC843B86DF848256BC20020B294
• http://beatlesnumber9.com/number9.html
• http://www.lyricsondemand.com/b/beatleslyrics/revolution9lyrics.html
• http://www.musicsonglyrics.com/B/thebeatleslyrics/thebeatlesrevolution9lyrics.htm

What do you reckon? Hogyn Lleol 20:19, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

The Inner Harbour?

What of that? What about the rumour that it was so incompetently designed that it flooded the town and was a disaster? Fiddle Faddle 08:13, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree that the inner harbour outer harbour information could be presented in more detail. I thought there was project in the early 20th century to make Pwllheli into a naval base. Two large cement-filled caissons were erected in the channel into the main harbour basin. The "outer harbour" was dredged and structures were added to control water flow. Unfortunately understanding of scour and tidal action was limited (and mathematical models almost non existent). The result was an immense silt problem in the outer harbour. The lock gates were never built and the project was abandoned (about 1912??). I should imagine this aspect could be researched Augusta2 19:56, 9 September 2007 (UTC)Was the Cob built at the same time? or was the Cob also the work of Solomon Andrews Augusta2 19:58, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

• The old postcards at www.cimwch.com are worth examining. One shows a three master in the harbour. Also re the Gim(b)let Rock mentioned below, the photos show that the "Garreg" used to be much larger. Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 00:54, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Boatyards

Bob Vowell's yard and Bill Partington's were said to have built or maintained MTBs (etc) during WW2. The harbour doesn't look like a useful MTB or RAF Rescue base since its mouth all but dried at low tide. Fiddle Faddle 08:13, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Marina development

It has one now, but there was a try at one in the outer harbour during the 1960s. Needs work really. Fiddle Faddle 08:13, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

The Old Jetty

On the seaward side, past Gimlet Rock, there was an old wooden jetty for the loading of stone, potentially quarried from Gimlet Rock itself. Does anyone have the history of this? Fiddle Faddle 08:13, 19 August 2007 (UTC) Gimlet Rock was extensively quarried. A certain Miss Frances of Llanbedrog (age 80 in 1967) told me that she remembered the Gimlet Rock as big as Llanbedrog Headland!!! An exaggeration no doubt but illustrative of the extent of quarrying. More work for the researcher Augusta2 19:56, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

History

Pwllheli still has a large number of chapels some of them in disrepair and some restored. Some reference to the enormous chapel-building efforts of the 19th cent. might be relevant Pwllheli has been a chartered town for a very long time. Some indication of what people lived on and how the town survived for so long might be in order. Town Hall Cinema which also served as a concert hall was (locally) important for the arts in the first half of the 20th cent. After burning Penrhos Saunders Lewis et al. gave themselves up at Pwllheli Police Station. Augusta2 22:40, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Would it be worth mentioning that poet Cynan grew up in Pwllheli, above where the Office Supplies shop is now? Yumikuga2 18:36, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Forgive me, I have no idea if this poet is notable. If so mention with total pleasure, ideally cited. Fiddle Faddle 21:35, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Ah, I see he is. He has his own article, and I have referred to him in this one. Fiddle Faddle 22:23, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Still no improvement on the chapels front. St Peter's Church now has its own website. See http://stpeterspwllheli.com/history-and-the-building/ The current Church in Wales church was started in 1886 apparently. Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 23:51, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Economy

How does the town now survive. Tourism, services, farming, light industry, ....?

Augusta2 22:40, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

I really think this section needs to be added to the article. A mention could be given to the tourism industry as well as Hafan Pwllheli, the marina. Big employers in the area - South Caernarfon Creameries, Afon Wen and Gwynedd Council could also be noted? Llewpart 20:47, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Attractions

How about adding that Glasfryn Park ( http://www.glasfryn.co.uk/) and Pwllheli fair to the list of attractions? Yumikuga2 16:09, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

The Target

a large steel tripod structure out in the bay between Pwllheli and Abersoch. Definitely there in the 1960s because I sailed round it. Then it was demolished. I can't find it with Google. I have no pictures. Any ideas? Fiddle Faddle (talk) 09:32, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

The Target was erected as part of the RAF Bombing School at Pen-y-Berth. Saunders Lewis and two others deliberately set fire to the structures and then surrendered themselves at Pwllheli police station in 1936. The target itself was dismantled. It had gone by early eighties, but I'm not sure of the exact date Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 20:50, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

I see that somebody has connected this structure with RAF Hell's Mouth. I fail to see why. The potted history of RAF Hell's Mouth (see link on the RAF Hell's Mouth page) makes absolutely no reference to this structure, but does mention the floating targets used at Porth Neigwl. Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 23:57, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

I have deleted the line about the target off South Beach in connection with RAF Hell's Mouth. Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 23:58, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

Local services and shops

I consider this section of the article to be lacking encyclopedic content:

Pwllheli, the main town on the Lleyn Peninsula is well equipped with all manner of services and shops. Since it is the terminus of the present railway to the area and since a market is held every Wednesday, the town is a gathering point for the population of the whole peninsula.

Maybe it could be rewritten so that it has content. Otherwise it should be deleted. Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 23:25, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Influential people

The Welsh Biography Online mentions 115 influential people with connections to Pwllheli. Perhaps somebody would like to see which of these names might be usefully added to the Pwllheli article. Although the biography is slowly being updated it only claims completeness up to 1971. A little project for the winter months, perhaps? Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 23:46, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

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Notable People

I would like to add a list of notable people who have or have had connections with Pwllheli. One thinks, for example of Billy Butlin, who had a house near Chwilog. Of interest is the prolific Dutch writer Arthur van Schendel, who records that in 1903 he befriended an African American, a Dane and a monoglot Welsh speaker at Pwllheli. The three men were working as fishermen at Pwllheli and a photograph of the three still exists in Dutch archives. Maatstaf, Jaargang 24 Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 23:39, 18 February 2016 (UTC)