Talk:Operation Barbarossa

total numbers on all fronts

it is there any articke or book which list numbers of all forces , year by year on all fronts ? i mean, here we have numbers in which germany invader ussr, but we dont know how much forces germany did left on other theatres. be it guarding france or other conquered territories or used in other campaigns at same time. 2A00:1028:96D0:36CA:973:3405:6F9E:8104 (talk) 11:45, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Belarussia vs Belarus

I see that there's a dispute about the section name. "Belarussia" is not something used in literature. To use the naming from the Soviet times, it would be "Byelorussia", to match Byelorussian Soviet Socialist Republic. However, I personally prefer "Belarus" as more common in contemporary literature. -- K.e.coffman (talk) 18:55, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

Depends. Byelorussia/Belorussia refers to the republic. Belarus was also divided between the USSR and Poland until the former occupied the rest of it. Similarly we use the term Moldavia to refer to the Soviet republic. I don't think it would make sense to use "Moldavia" and "Belarus" at the same time. Mellk (talk) 23:23, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

I had a look and an IP changed the heading from Belorussia to Belarussia on 22 May 2022.[1] I think at least for now this should be reverted and then discussion about changing this can continue. Mellk (talk) 03:31, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

Add independent state of Croatia

can someone sdd independent state of Croatia? 185.246.164.82 (talk) 01:57, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

No “Finnish units” and no “Finnish Army of Karelia” participated in Barbarossa in June, 1941

A correction needed here: “Accompanying the German forces during the initial invasion were Finnish and Romanian units as well.”

This is a bold lie.

Finnish volunteers did participate in Barbarossa, most of these in the 5th SS Panzer Division Wiking, but there were no separate Finnish units during the initial invasion or later. All the Finnish units fought as part of the Finnish Army and none as a unit of the German Army.

The volunteers of the 5th SS Panzer Division Wiking came from Denmark, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Estonia, Iceland, the Netherlands and Belgium, so we can hardly speak about a “Finnish unit”.

Also no “Finnish Army of Karelia” took part in Barbarossa in June, 1941. The Finnish Army of Karelia started its counter-offensive only on July 10. This defensive resulted from Soviet air strikes two weeks earlier and had nothing to do with Barbarossa. 2001:99A:200A:E800:21DF:5FE7:9B60:A0B5 (talk) 15:30, 18 November 2024 (UTC)

Change end date to December 8

I don't think this should be too controversial. Yes, there was a Soviet counteroffensive on December 5-6. And it proved to be enormous. But Operation Barbarossa was officially ended with Fuhrer directive #39 on December 8th. Barbarossa didn't magically end when Zhukov issued the orders to counterattack. It forced Hitler to end it - and the date for that directive was December 8th Zagreus99 (talk) 15:19, 29 November 2024 (UTC)