Talk:Langston University

First Article!

This is my first original article for wikipedia. Dave Walker

Current demographics of student body

What percentage of currently enrolled students are African-American? The reason why I ask is that I know a caucasian girl who goes to school there. Maybe it is 50/50 these days - I don't know. Thanks in advance to anybody who knows and can put it in the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.148.130.125 (talk) 08:03, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

The most recent data available from the Department of Education has Black or African American enrollment at 84% and White enrollment at 10%: http://nces.ed.gov/collegenavigator/?q=Langston+University&s=all&id=207209#enrolmt. If you think that it would be useful information for this article, please feel free to add it! ElKevbo (talk) 12:59, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

School Images

2C2KPhotos (talk) 02:49, 23 August 2020 (UTC) https://www.flickr.com/photos/2cheap2keep/42852465384/in/album-72157699343886085/ 2C2KPhotos (talk) 02:49, 23 August 2020 (UTC) https://www.flickr.com/photos/2cheap2keep/42852461524/in/album-72157699343886085/ 2C2KPhotos (talk) 02:49, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

3O Regional Accreditation

Should the term "regional accreditation" be used to describe the Higher Learning Commission's accreditation of Langston? The Department of Education (DOE) no longer uses that term, preferring institutional accreditor. Other organizations still use the term including the Council on Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA) who chooses accreditors, the Higher Learning Commission (HLC) who accredits Langston and the school itself.

19:56, 17 January 2022 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dustinmacdonald (talk • contribs)

Please feel free to re-add it to WP:3O when a thorough discussion has taken place, and you still cannot find agreement. Femke (talk) 20:06, 17 January 2022 (UTC)

@Dustinmacdonald: You do not own this article and you are not entitled to enforce your own opinion by edit warring. You made your original edit and that's fine; another editor has objected and reverted your edit so now you discuss it.

As stated in one of my edit summaries, I don't know why some websites are using outdated terminology. This is a relatively new change in some very longstanding language so I suspect that the organizations are just late or complacent in making this update. But the decision by the Department of Education is crystal clear on this issue and they are, of course, the highest authority on this topic (the primary value of institutional accreditation is access to federal funding, including financial aid). ElKevbo (talk) 23:59, 19 January 2022 (UTC)

Citation needed. DOE is not the highest authority on the subject of accreditation. The authority on accreditation, CHEA, the accreditor, HLC, and the school themselves all the use the terminology. You don't seem to be able to cite any sources that demonstrate that the terminology has changed outside of DOE because the truth is that it hasn't. The RA/NA distinction is irrelevant to DOE's administration of financial aid. It's not irrelevant to the accreditor or the school. --Dustinmacdonald (talk) 03:43, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Do you not understand that CHEA only exists and plays a role because the Department of Education (typically abbreviated as as "USDE" or "ED;" "DOE" is used to refer to the Department of Energy) needs someone to accredit the accreditors? And that the primary role of accreditation in the second half of the twentieth century and the twenty-first century is to provide access to federal financial aid? The Secretary of Education is the final arbiter of whether an accreditor is recognized; see what has been playing out with ACICS over the past several years for a good example. This is a somewhat technical and obscure part of U.S. higher education that isn't familiar to most people who aren't themselves deep into this so I understand if this isn't all very clear and easy to understand. It's also complicated by the fact that many people who work in higher education, including those who work in accreditation or for accreditors, oppose this change; I suspect that some may be dragging their feet on making any changes to their vocabulary because they hope that the Biden administration will undo this change that was made by the Trump administration. ElKevbo (talk) 04:08, 28 January 2022 (UTC)