Talk:Ferrari 458

458 GTC Infobox

Do you consider that the Racing version deserves it's own infobox? I believe only sport prototypes have their own infobox or at least that's what I've seen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.158.182.103 (talk) 00:35, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Naming convention

Ferrari has stated that the name is 458 Italia, so therefore the article should include this full name, similar to the Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano, Ferrari 575M Maranello, and the Ferrari 612 Scaglietti, who also include the full official name as the article title. I'll perform the move to the official full name of the 458 Italia soon. Also, some editors are referring to the car as the F458, probably as a reference to it's predecessor the F430, however since Ferrari does not mention the "F" in the 458 Italia name, it shouldn't be included. I've already fixed those that I've found, but be on the lookout and edit where necessary. - Mtmelendez ^(Talk) 15:23, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Units

Shoudn't downforce be measured in Newtons? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.91.161.116 (talk) 20:31, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Strictly Speaking yes, but i think it isn't a bad idea to give it in kilograms, everyone knows how much that is. And the Guy's who know that it should be in Newton won't have any problem to Multiplicate it with 10 (9.81). so I think it's Okay as it is.--Wuestenschiff Dune-talk 10:38, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Ferrari F142

The Ferrari F142 is not another name for protos of the 458 Italia, it is a planned successor to the Ferrari F430 as is the 458 Italia, Please do not redirect the F142 article again as it has no relation to the 458 Italia other than the fact tha both a concepts and chosen successors to the F430 (and they're both a helluva lot better looking than some of the other protos I've seen). Again please do not delete the F142 article. Please leave a message on my talk page with any comments or questions. --Bismarck43 (talk) 18:51, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Do you have a source for that? I was under the impression that the F142 was a prototype to the 458. swaq 20:13, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Grammar in "Ferrari 458 Italia"

"Among one of the best" is sort of redundant and poor English usage. Recommend "Among the best" or "One of the best".

24.9.94.138 (talk) 01:51, 30 August 2010 (UTC)Bob Z

Return to conventional Naming?

Surely this article deserves a mention of Ferrari going back to old naming styles with the 458. Due to it using the numbering system of the dinos rather than the more recent previous Ferraris (F430, 360). i.e. 45 for a 4.5 litre and 8 for a V8. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fiat500isdabest (talk • contribs) 20:42, 2 September 2010 (UTC)

Highest hp/litreNA engine.

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_automotive_superlatives, as far as wikipedia is concerned production cars:

"are constructed principally for retail sale to consumers, for their personal use, and to transport people on public roads (no commercial or industrial vehicles are eligible); have had 20 or more instances made by the original vehicle manufacturer, and offered for commercial sale to the public in new condition (cars modified by either professional tuners or individuals are not eligible); and; are street-legal in their intended markets, and capable of passing any official tests or inspections required to be granted this status."

also according to the above the Caparo T1 has the highest output of a NA engine per litre for a street legal production car, with 118.81 kW (161.5 PS; 159.3 hp) per litre (a Ferrari 458 has 127 hp/litre)

So, unless anyone wishes to gain consensus to change what is and is not considered a production car, or disputes the above figures, I suggest that my removal of claims about the 458 having the highest output per litre is left alone. --Sennen Goroshi ! (talk) 14:57, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

So whats the point of comparing street cars and track cars? Ill bet Caparo T1 is street legal only in couple of countries. It doesnt make much sense of comparing these "cars" -->Typ932 ^T·C 17:09, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

I do agree that the Caparo is very much a track biased car, however I don't see any reason why it should be excluded from any comparison just because of that bias. At the end of the day, it is a road legal car, that fulfills the criteria in order for it to be considered a production car (well, as far as wikipedia is concerned anyway) There are so many cars that are road legal, but have an obvious track bias - Porsche GT3/GT2 (especially the RS variants) Ferrari 599GTO, 430 Scuderia and 360 Challenge Stradale, Lexus LFA (Nürburgring Package), anything by Caterham, Ultima, Ariel, Radical, Donkervoort, Gumpert, classics such as Ferrari 250GTO, AC Cobra, Shelby Mustangs, road legal rally cars built for homologation purposes, Celica GT4, Impreza WRX/STi, Lancer EVO (1-6), Audi Quattro or road legal circuit racecars such as the BMW E30 M3 or Mercedes Benz 190 2.5-16 Cosworth . I base most of this on the discussions that have taken place in the Nurburgring lap times article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_N%C3%BCrburgring_Nordschleife_lap_times - there have been extensive debates on what can and cannot be included in the production car laptimes section.

The number of countries that a car is legal in, is irrelevant to production car status as far as wikipedia is concerned, it just needs to be legal in the countries that it is sold in. However, I imagine with the shared European marketplace, it is legal in all of the EU (in the same way that Radical cars are legal in Germany, despite not taking the German TUV test)--Sennen Goroshi ! (talk) 06:29, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 May 2014

I want to share some Ferrari 458 Italia real photos with readers in photo gallery.

Ferrari 458 Italia

Fahadmunir32 (talk) 11:21, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

Not done: Welcome, Fahad, I'll post on your user talk page with instructions on how to upload images. Best, Sam Sailor ^Sing 13:33, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

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