Talk:Edmund Berry Godfrey

Greenberry Hill?

In the House of Lords examination of the witnesses -or alleged witnesses- to Sir Edmund Berry Godfrey (or Edmondbury), in 1679, "Greenberry Hill" is not referred to, but "Primrose Hill". So when did the name actually change? The men hanged were Greene, Berry and Hill, and perhaps this is not entirely a coincidence but that the Hill became populoarly misnamed as a result. It seems they were actually hanged on site at the Hill. Furthermore the pack of printed playing cards issued at the time and in the National Portrait gallery has a card illustrating the body of Sir E.B. Godfree being taken by horse to "Prim rose Hill". Charles Fort refers to Greenberry Hill as one of his amazing coicidences that so obsessed him, but his source was an article in the New York Herald of 1911 (26 November) in a column about co incidences. Somerset House, where Godfrey's body was alid out & alleged crime scene was also subsequently known as "Godfrey Hall", so it is possible that in the same way "Greenberry Hill" was a popular nickname subsequent to the hanging of Greene and Hill on 21.February 1679 and Berry on 28.February 1679.

Also the contemporary spelling is Sir Edmondbury Godfrey or Sir E.B. Godfree.--Streona (talk) 10:08, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

ANSWER ; It was never actually called Greenberry Hill according to Camden Libraries. This was a later invention by Popish Plot conspiracy theorists in order to make it appear as a prophecy.This was picked up omn by Charles Fort as a "remarkable coincidence" and repeated by Sir Winston Churchill in "History of the English Speeaking Peoples". It is complete nonsense.--Streona (talk) 11:55, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

In factr the Greenberry Hill referwence is from the diary of Narcissus Lutrell shortly AFTER Godfrey's death, but as far as I & Camden Libraries are aware there is noreference before October 1678

Unsourced

This article could use some sourcing and citations for verficiation. There are some questions of veracity of information, as well as original research concerns that could be dispelled with a few in-line citations. //Blaxthos ( t / c ) 12:03, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

Selling or Sellindge?

Selling in Swale District near Faversham is a different place to SELLINDGE between Hythe & Ashford. Since Thomas Godfrey (his father) -succeeded by the oldest surviving brother, Peter Godfrey owned Hodiford Farm near SELLINDGE I am quite sure that Edmund was in fact NOT born in Selling but SELLINDGE I shall firm up the reference and change it, unless there is any objection. Streona (talk) 10:25, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Britannica.com gives his place of birth as "probably Sellinge"[sic] which explains the confusion & either way is wrong -Streona

Self Strangulation

I have added this latter theory from Alan Marshall. This was formerly thougfht to be impossible since if one faints in the process pressure on the neck is loosened. However prison suicides using a sheet tied to window bars and twisted with a stick have been reported which maintains the pressure until death. However the contemporary accounts report a broken neck that "one could as easily lay his head on one shoulder as the other." which would imply a fractured - or at least dislocated- vertebra, but the evidence from modern suicides is that the hyoid bone - a small bone about the throat-is fractured in such cases but not the vertebra.--82.45.152.152 (talk) 11:33, 23 September 2011 (UTC) ~Streona

Samuel Atkins

The link in this article to Samuel Atkins is incorrect. It links to a Samuel Atkins who was born in 1787, which was more than 100 years after the murder of Edmund Godfrey. Perhaps someone would like to start an article on the Samuel Atkins who was accused in Godfrey's murder. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.248.38.100 (talk) 17:14, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Westminster Abbey

When I asked after the Godfrey Memorial the tour guide checked his information sheet & found it. He also said that his sheet had a brief paragraph won Godfrey which ended "murdered by John Scott". Whilst Scott was an extremely dodgy character I could find no other source for this. He had visited Reginald Scott's (the witchcraft sceptic) house in Sellinge near the Godfrey homestead at Hoddiford, claiming (falsely) a kinship with them.--Streona (talk) 15:48, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

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