Talk:Caffeinated alcoholic drink
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Four Loko
editThis article really only references Four Loko and doesn't talk about anything else. It could either be merged with another article or maybe some content can be added. I know there are other types of drinks out there that used to have caffeine and alcohol like Sparks and Joose that could be brought into this. Any ideas of where to take it to improve it?Leefkrust22 (talk) 05:57, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
Phusion
editI am moving some of this here because it doesn't belong:
- The drink itself
The brand Four manufactures caffeinated alcoholic drinks. The drink was made in 2006, but it was not sold until 2008. Chris Hunter, Jeff Wright, and Jaisen Freeman, three students who met at Ohio State University, created Four Loko and started the company Phusion Projects.[1] The name "Four" comes from the four ingredients that make up the drink: caffeine, taurine, guarana, and alcohol. Taurine is found in energy drinks because it can improve athletic performance.[2] Guarana comes from a plant and is a stimulant that contains twice the caffeine found in coffee beans.[3] All four ingredients combined into one drink are similar to drinking one tall coffee from Starbucks and a few beers all at the same time.
- Phusion Projects
A way to view caffeinated alcoholic drinks is from the standpoint of the manufacturers of the drink. In this case, the manufacturers of Four Loko are Phusion Projects. They dispute assertions that their drink leads to alcohol poisoning. Hunter, Wright, and Freeman say in a statement, “‘We have repeatedly contended—and still believe, as do many people throughout the country—that the combination of alcohol and caffeine is safe."[1] The three men go on further to say that it would not be possible for anyone to have other popular drinks, like rum and colas or Irish coffees, if the combination of alcohol and caffeine were unsafe. From this perspective, we learn that other types of caffeinated alcoholic drinks, such as Irish coffee, do not necessarily end with negative consequences.
We can discuss how to incorporate this with other information on other drinks here.Leefkrust22 (talk) 21:45, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
A good start might to be add the above paragraph under "standpoint of the manufacturers," wouldn't it? I don't know much about companies that produce caffeinated alchoholic drinks, but I'll try to look into it. It seems like this started when red bull first came out and people started mixing it with jagermeister liquor in bars. I don't know if it's still as popular as it was. Editfromwithout (talk) 17:38, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
References
- ^ a b “U.S. Students Mourn Alcohol and Caffeine Drink Four Loko.” UK Wired. 13 Dec. 2010. 11 Feb. 2011. http://www.wirednews.us/new.php/115036-US-students-mourn-alcohol-and-caffeine-drink-Four-Loko.
- ^ Zeratsky, Katherine. “Taurine in energy drinks: What is it?” 1998-2011. Mayo Foundation for Medical Education and Research (MFMER). 9 Feb. 2011. http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/taurine/AN01856.
- ^ Guarana. Wikipedia. 3 Feb. 2011. Wikimedia Foundation, Inc. 9 Feb. 2011. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guarana.
Removed sections
editI removed sections that seemed to be mostly about consuming caffeine and alcohol at the same time. I think those are/should be mostly covered under Caffeine#Alcohol. If anybody feels those were important, I think a more on-topic way to address them might be to say like, in addition to drinks sold containing both caffeine and alcohol, caffeinated alcoholic drinks includes mixed drinks that use caffeine (in coffee, tea, energy drink, or powdered forms) as a mixer. KenyonP (talk) 05:12, 24 February 2023 (UTC)