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Hello! I previously edited this article for a course (also affiliated with Wiki Education) and have been keeping tabs on it as much as I could. At the time, I learned that we should avoid using documents such as the DSM to avoid copyright strikes. I noticed that after some edits to this article, the DSM itself is directly cited over a scientific review article discussing it (specifically in the Diagnosis (criteria) section). I wanted to ask about whether we could remove it, or if my understanding was incorrect. I am still learning so I hope this question isn't too bothersome! Thank you in advance! Bharatss-SB (talk) 19:15, 15 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
As described in Sylvain Lesné#Impact on Alzheimer's research, the consensus seems to be that the alleged manipulation would not invalidate most of the research into the amyloid hypothesis. But since the report and the consequences have garnered significant attention from researchers as well as the general public, it would perhaps be a good improvement to mention it briefly in the history section. What do you think @SandyGeorgia? (pinging you since you wrote most of the content covering this investigation). Bendegúz Ács (talk) 21:30, 2 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the ping ... I agree with Bendeguz Acs that the sources indicate the alleged manipulation has little impact on most research, hence is not worthy of mention in the main article. As to whether it warrants a mention in the History section, my approach (particularly for a former featured article) is to include only that which has been covered by secondary overall literature reviews -- the Lesne/Ashe issue has not risen to that level yet. Since this article has fallen from FA status, I won't strenuously object if it is added to History, but the standard I prefer is to base History on mention in overall literature reviews of the condition. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 15:37, 3 June 2024 (UTC)Reply
Update: Bendegúz Ács considering this update from Piller (and the changes I just made at Sylvain Lesné), it seems there is some disagreement as to whether the findings cast doubt upon the prevailing amyloid hypothesis. Considering this is the most highly cited paper ever retracted, perhaps a one- or two- sentence summary at Biochemistry_of_Alzheimer's_disease#Amyloid_hypothesis is warranted? I'm out of time for today, and although I did (partially) update Lesné, I haven't yet updated Karen Ashe, in case you have time to work there -- I am going to be fairly busy through Friday. Thanks for keeping up with this! I still don't find it necessary to make changes to this article, as we don't overplay the amyloid hypothesis here, and it is covered in detail at the Biochemistry of article. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:50, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply