Talk:2030 FIFA World Cup
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editASEAN interest, Chile, Japan/North Korea/South Korea/China and China (alone). --Chtrede (talk) 07:15, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
- It's 2034 bidding (announced 2026). host 2030 announced from 2022. Akuindo (talk) 05:15, 6 June 2018 (UTC)
South Korea etc.
editSouth Korea have expressed interest in hosting - [1] [2]. Therefore it should be included under Expressed interest in hosting, even though at current they are not eligible. That does not stop the fact they have expressed interest. OZOO (t) (c) 12:13, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
- That has no business being there like that- and you know it. Whether they have expressed interest or not is irrelevant, the rules say no AFC can host until 2034. If you're going to put that back, then it has to have some kind of text saying something like "Expressed interest (but can't host this year due to current rotation rules)" or something. --Hmdwgf (talk) 01:56, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
Someone explain to me why a much discussed bid, led by the President of South Korea and seemingly encouraged by the FIFA president Gianni Infantino, should not be listed on this article, which is about bids for the 2030 FIFA World Cup. OZOO (t) (c) 17:33, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
- BECAUSE IT'S NOT ELIGIBLE FOR THAT YEAR PER FIFA REGULATIONS! ANY OTHER REASON YOU HAVE IS IRRELEVANT! WE'VE BEEN OVER THIS MULTIPLE TIMES! What don't you understand about that?! --Hmdwgf (talk) 20:47, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
No speculative bids here
editThere has to be confirmed interest from a country's football association- speculation does not warrant inclusion on this article. Period. --Hmdwgf (talk) 05:44, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
- Agreed, nor have statements by government officials, because they are not going to do the bidding... L.tak (talk) 23:07, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
bids page
editQuestion to all of you. Do you think the potential bids do warrant a separate page or should we accommodate them here?
- My own answer: keep here, as the page is still small enough to manage, and we don't do the readers a service by placing this in two locations, until it is really necessary because of page size (eg when the format is known and needs to be added)... L.tak (talk) 18:30, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
- L.tak Agree with you. No need to separate at this time and WP:TOOSOON applies (12 years!) But I never mind except we should keep summary here Hhkohh (talk) 18:33, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
- Reverted. 2026 FIFA World Cup bids created in 2018. Hhkohh (talk) 18:50, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
- L.tak Agree with you. No need to separate at this time and WP:TOOSOON applies (12 years!) But I never mind except we should keep summary here Hhkohh (talk) 18:33, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
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what do we know about 2030 men's world cup?
editI wonder if we have a source for the 2030 world cup. Is it already planned and do we know the bidding process? If we have the sources, could someone add them? If not, I suggest to reflect that in the article.... L.tak (talk) 19:12, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- It is assumed that it will happen as multiple nations or consortia of nations are preparing bids for it. Walter Görlitz (talk) 23:12, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
- I agree.... I propose to add add that this is an assumption then, because it sounds quite definite in the text now... L.tak (talk) 23:42, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- I don't think that's necessary. There has been no indication that anything will change. It adds unnecessary verbiage. Walter Görlitz (talk) 23:50, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- That's where we disagree then. We can not look into the future, so "it will be as it was the past 50 years" and others assume it will take place is IMO no valid view. Could you propose a compromise wording that addresses my concern? L.tak (talk) 17:56, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
- I'll let others offer wording if they think it's needed. WP:FOOTY may be a better place for opinion. Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:10, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
- Thanks, I support ideas by others... if not I'll give it a try myself... L.tak (talk) 18:14, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
- I'll let others offer wording if they think it's needed. WP:FOOTY may be a better place for opinion. Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:10, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
- That's where we disagree then. We can not look into the future, so "it will be as it was the past 50 years" and others assume it will take place is IMO no valid view. Could you propose a compromise wording that addresses my concern? L.tak (talk) 17:56, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
- I don't think that's necessary. There has been no indication that anything will change. It adds unnecessary verbiage. Walter Görlitz (talk) 23:50, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
- I agree.... I propose to add add that this is an assumption then, because it sounds quite definite in the text now... L.tak (talk) 23:42, 25 February 2019 (UTC)
Developments in 2020?
editThis article doesn’t include any information about developments in 2020, it's already the middle of February, and there are several updates worth mentioning. Dino Bronto Rex (talk) 19:47, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
When is going the decision to be made?
editI came here to check when it will be decided. Not found. 46.136.179.86 (talk) 21:47, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
- Generally speaking, the Olympic Games and the FIFA World Cup hosts are announced 7 years in advance. This gives the host country adequate time to prepare for the big event and also maintains public interest in the tournament by having the announcement ~1 year after the last edition of the tournament. MLPfanficwriter (talk) 17:10, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
infobox filled with fictional data
editThe infobox seems to have been filled with data implying the confirmation of the Uruguay–Argentina–Chile–Paraguay bid, and as winner "FR Yugoslavia", which hasn't existed under that name since 2003. You-would-like-to-know-eh (talk) 21:08, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
Morocco shares boarder with Spain
editIt is said "being replaced by Morocco, which shares a maritime border with Spain". I don't know why a maritime boarder is relevant while we know that they share a continental boarder: Ceuta, Melilla and why not also Peñón de Vélez de la Gomera. 158.251.162.197 (talk) 13:33, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
News
editConfirmed! Saudi Arabia is not going to organize the 2030 World Cup, change it to the abandoned bid list. 186.15.124.88 (talk) 20:34, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
Iberian bid V.S South American Bid.
editNow. At First. I thought that The South American Bid (Uruguay-Argentina-Chile-Paraguay) would Win Easily. As there were multiple bids. The Saudi-Greece-Egypt bid. The Morocco Bid. And the Spain-Portugal Bid.. Then Morocco Joined the Spain-Portugal Bid. And The Other Bids Were Abandoned. And Both CAF And UEFA Unanimously Support The Spain-Portugal-Morocco Bid. A.K.A "The Iberian Bid." That is 111 votes. A Majority.. Do I Think The South American Bid Will Win. Yes. But I'm Left Wondering If The Tables.. Might Turn.. Orange Anomaly. (talk) 23:50, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
Name in European Portuguese
editCopa do Mundo is how the competition is called in Brazil, in Portugal they call it Campeonato Mundial. Bastewasket (talk) 15:52, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
Spain-Portugal-Morocco Confirmed
editIts confirmed, they won the bid.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/anafaguy/2023/10/04/2030-world-cup-hosts-morocco-spain-and-portugal/ TNM101 (talk) 16:11, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- What has been confirmed is that the bid of Morocco, Portugal and Spain will be the sole, unopposed bid. The actual appointment, together with that for 2034, will take place next year (Bidding Regulations, Overview of the Bidding Processes). Yes, that bid will be selected, but it hasn't been yet. --Theurgist (talk) 20:48, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- FIFA has confirmed it. – PeeJay 20:59, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- Where does FIFA state that? --Theurgist (talk) 21:07, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- Check out fifa.com's latest page, "FIFA World Cup 2030™: Everything you need to know". While it says that Morocco, Portugal and Spain will host the tournament as their bid is the sole candidate, three matches will be played in Uruguay, Argentina and Paraguay, and all six of those teams will qualify automatically, it repeatedly makes it clear that all this is subject to a successful bidding process and a decision by the FIFA Congress in 2024. --Theurgist (talk) 01:29, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
- FIFA has confirmed it. – PeeJay 20:59, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
Host country respect alphabetical priority
editit's Morocco-Portugal-Spain not Spain-Morocco-Portugal can you please correct it. Aajli (talk) 20:20, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
Guarani name
editGuarani is an official language of Paraguay, so should be included in the (admittedly long) list of names. As far as I can tell from Guarani Wikipedia, that name should be "FIFA Tembiesarái Yvypavẽ 2030" 21:11, 4 October 2023 (UTC)ChristyMcMorrow (talk)
Incorrect Morocco Map
editThere is an error in the Map of Morocco, you are cutting the southern part of the country ? Kiosque.Y (talk) 22:06, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay are automatically qualified for the tournament
editAccording to an official FIFA pdf, Argentina, Paraguay and Uruguay are automatically qualified for the 2030 FIFA World Cup due to hosting the opening matches. Page 25, last paragraph. https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/5c81372fd64a6c39/original/FIFA-World-Cup-2030-and-FIFA-World-Cup-2034-Overview-of-the-Bidding-Processes.pdf — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zafur is raid (talk • contribs) 22:24, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
- Details anyway, on https://www.fifa.com/about-fifa/organisation/fifa-council/media-releases/fifa-council-takes-key-decisions-on-fifa-world-cup-tm-editions-in-2030-and-2034: it's only "Morocco, Portugal, and Spain, which will host the event in 2030 and qualify automatically" and on your source: "IN THE EVENT THAT [Uruguay], [Argentina] and [Paraguay] are confirmed to host the centenary celebration matches as part of the final competition of the FIFA World Cup 2030, they will directly qualify for the Competition". GabrieL (talk) 09:56, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
- Exactly, but at the moment the three games of the centenary celebration are confirmed, so at this moment Uruguay, Argentina and Paraguay are classified for the competition, until FIFA defines at the 2024 congress whether this will be done. So your conclusions amount to nothing. Zafur is raid (talk) 16:33, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 5 October 2023
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change "Host country" to "Host countries" Oct5for2030 (talk) 15:38, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: unfortunately, this can't be done as it's part of the template:Infobox international football competition template. M.Bitton (talk) 19:53, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
Why did FIFA Ditch Chile from the Inaugural Matches?
editI Bet You would say "but they didn't participate in the final or host it" but that's just the Problem. Paraguay Didn't Either. Yet They Are Still Participating Too. Could Someone Please Explain Why FIFA Literally Ditched Chile? Orange Anomaly. (talk) 23:18, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
- Things like this happen. Ukraine isn't in either. Digitslain12 (talk) 23:31, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
- Ukraine's Situation makes Sense. They're Currently Fighting A War. They cannot Supply A Soccer/Turbo Tournament RN. Chile is different. No Wars. No Debt. Nothing. While Paraguay Does and Argentina is Struggling with Debt. Besides. It's not like they Withdrew from the Bid. Orange Anomaly. (talk) 00:24, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- The inclusion of Paraguay does not imply the intentional exclusion of Chile. Did Chile ever apply to host any matches? This seems like a question for FIFA, not Wikipedia. – PeeJay 09:35, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- Ah Yes. Let Me Call up my Best Friend. The International Association Football Federation (aka FIFA) And Ask them "Hey FIF. Why isn't Chile There." And Chile Literally Did During the South American Bid. Orange Anomaly. (talk) 21:33, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- I think you're kicking up a stink over nothing. Find a source complaining about it and we can include it, but otherwise, what's the point in posting on here? – PeeJay 18:30, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- I was literally asking a Question and then you start acting toxic. What's the deal? Orange Anomaly. (talk) 17:30, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
- I think you're kicking up a stink over nothing. Find a source complaining about it and we can include it, but otherwise, what's the point in posting on here? – PeeJay 18:30, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- Ah Yes. Let Me Call up my Best Friend. The International Association Football Federation (aka FIFA) And Ask them "Hey FIF. Why isn't Chile There." And Chile Literally Did During the South American Bid. Orange Anomaly. (talk) 21:33, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- The inclusion of Paraguay does not imply the intentional exclusion of Chile. Did Chile ever apply to host any matches? This seems like a question for FIFA, not Wikipedia. – PeeJay 09:35, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- Ukraine's Situation makes Sense. They're Currently Fighting A War. They cannot Supply A Soccer/Turbo Tournament RN. Chile is different. No Wars. No Debt. Nothing. While Paraguay Does and Argentina is Struggling with Debt. Besides. It's not like they Withdrew from the Bid. Orange Anomaly. (talk) 00:24, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
Languages on the infobox
editIf Catalan, Basque and Galician are added as languages on the infobox whilst being co-official languages only in certain regions of Spain; then, for consistency, shouldn't Quechua (co-official in Santiago del Estero), Toba Qom, Mocoví and Wichí (all co-official in Chaco) and Mirandese (co-official across all of Portugal as recognised by the Assembly of the Republic in 1999) also be added to the top of the infobox?
BochiBochiGalaxy (talk) 23:30, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
- I honestly think we should get rid of all of them, for every World Cup, every tournament. The name of the competition in local languages is irrelevant, this is the English-language Wikipedia. – PeeJay 18:28, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- I think such names should be listed if they are official brands or trademarks, but not if they are simply idiomatic translations (which may even vary sometimes). --Theurgist (talk) 17:10, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 7 October 2023
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Under section "Potential venues", please delete text "(Spain only)" after "† denotes stadium used for previous men's World Cup tournament". Furthermore, please add a † after "Centenario" and "Antonio Vespucio Liberti", as these stadiums have in fact been used respectively in the 1930 and 1978 men's World Cup finals. Diweikipa (talk) 01:06, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
- Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Pinchme123 (talk) 03:22, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
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editCan someone tell what language this is in? JoshuaInWiki (talk) 14:39, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
- Standard Moroccan Tamazight, one of the two official languages of Morocco.-- Ideophagous (talk) 09:54, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
Tamazight and euro port
editTamazight is needed it’s an official language of Morocco spoken by 20 percent of the pop also use euro Portuguese not brazilian 68.189.2.14 (talk) 07:35, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, for the Portuguese text, the correct is Campeonato Mundial, there's tons of sources to backup my words. I am Brazilian and I am aware of the difference, every time I correct it, they revert the edit. I even left a message on this talkpage. Bastewasket (talk) 04:53, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
Languages in the infobox
editI think we need to stop this mess before the infobox becomes uselessly crowded with co-official and national languages, also many seem like original works made by editors without sourcing, rather than official translations provided by FIFA or the football federation of each nation. Terbofast (talk) 18:07, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
"Argentina 2030" listed at Redirects for discussion
editThe redirect Argentina 2030 has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 January 24 § Argentina 2030 until a consensus is reached. Hey man im josh (talk) 19:37, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
The map of Morocco is incorrect
editThe map of Morocco miss it's South 197.230.172.139 (talk) 08:16, 20 March 2024 (UTC)