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Uploading media: screenshot copyright

There is a screenshot in Wipeout 3 If I would like to publish a screenshot of a video game, should I make the copyright option an original work (own work) as I took the screenshot myself, or should I make it not an original work? If it should NOT be an original work, how should I publish it so it wouldn't violate copyrights? -- Bank: Bank Robbery started a robbery (notify) 03:40, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

@Bank Robbery: if you designed the video game, you can claim that it is original work. Otherwise, I would check the game's license, to see if it is compatible with wikipedia. It probably won't be though, so I suggest reviewing Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria to see if using the screenshot would qualify as "fair use" --DannyS712 (talk) 03:56, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Bank Robbery. A screenshot is a derivitive work, and the original copyright is almost certainly held by the company that developed or owns the marketing rights to the game. You should never claim a common screenshot as your own "original work" because your creative input was negligible. The "work" was created by the videogame company. DannyS712 is correct. Any such upload must comply with WP:NFCI in all details. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 04:12, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

@DannyS712:@Cullen328: Thank you for your help. The image I wanted to upload is a screenshot from Hungry Shark World. Is there an official page for Hungry Shark World, or do I need to upload it on to the page Hungry Shark directly instead? -- Bank: Bank Robbery started a robbery (notify) 09:56, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

@Cullen328: I also have a problem. How can I find the copyright information about the game? -- Bank: Bank Robbery started a robbery (notify) 11:04, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Bank Robbery. The home page for the game says "© 2016 Ubisoft Entertainment". Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 16:54, 26 October 2019 (UTC)

@Cullen328: Don’t really understand what you mean. Actually, I am asking which license should I use (like CC Public Domain 3.0 (I don’t really know the name of the license)). -- Bank: Bank Robbery started a robbery (notify) 00:59, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

And Cullen328 is telling you, Bank Robbery, that there is no licence that you can use, because you are not permitted to upload such a picture to which you do not own the copyright, unless the copyright owner has explicitly released it under a free licence, or unless your use complies with all the terms in the non-free content criteria; in the latter case you upload it as non-free, and don't specify a licence. --ColinFine (talk) 23:23, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Bank Robbery, you cannot arbitrarily assign a free licence to an image that is copyrighted by someone else. That would be illegal, immoral and quite ridiculous. Copyrights are equivalent to property. The rights to images that you did not create are not your property. Those rights belong to other people. The only possible acceptable uses of copyrighted images are described quite clearly in WP:NFCI and no other use is permitted on Wikipedia. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 05:32, 28 October 2019 (UTC)

@Cullen328: Is there any way for me to not specify a license? -- Bank: Bank Robbery started a robbery (notify) 10:04, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

Bank Robbery, you must provide a rationale (not a license) that complies with WP:NFCI in every way. Read that very carefully. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 15:40, 29 October 2019 (UTC)

@Cullen328: Even I have read WP:NFCI for two times, I still do not understand how to upload a photo without a license. Can you give me the steps? -- Bank: Bank Robbery started a robbery (notify) 10:47, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Hi Bank Robbery. All files uploaded to Wikipedia are required to have two things: (1) a copyright license and (2) information about the file's source; so, no you cannot upload a file without a copyright license and any such file will be tagged (most likely quite quickly) for speedy deletion per speedy deletion criteria F4. If you're uploading a non-free file which seems to be what you're asking about, you will also need to provide a non-free use rationale for each use of the file and explain how each use of the file satisfies all ten non-free content use criteria explained here; if a use is judged to fail even one of these criteria, the file will be removed or deleted. If you're not sure whether the screenshot you want to upload will satisfy all ten of these criteria, you might want to ask for help at Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games since the members of that WikiProject may be able to help you figure this out. -- Marchjuly (talk) 11:52, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, Marchjuly, the WikiProject Page doesn’t seem to help me much. I want the steps instead. -- Bank: Bank Robbery started a robbery (notify) 23:23, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

There are no steps or short-cuts listed other than those listed on relevant Wikipedia pages. If you want someone else to try and upload the file for you, you can try asking for help at Wikipedia:Files for upload. If you're trying to upload a screenshot of some video game that you don't own the copyright on, you will need to uploaded it as non-free content. In that case, you will need to provide a non-free use rationale and a non-free copyright license. For video game screenshots, Template:Non-free video game screenshot is generally used for the license, and Template:Non-free use rationale video game screenshot is generally used for the non-free use rationale. If you're not sure whether the screenshot you want to upload and use satisfies Wikipedia's non-free content use policy, please ask for help at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video Games or Wikipedia talk:Non-free content. -- Marchjuly (talk) 00:27, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

Marchjuly, as I have read a project article about uploading files on Wikipedia instead of Wikimedia Commons. I forgot the page for the Wikipedia file uploading, so can you please tell me the page and how to use the template you have mentioned above? -- Bank: Bank Robbery started a robbery (notify) 09:56, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't know what Wikipedia page you're referring to. Perhaps try looking at Wikipedia:Image use policy, Wikipedia:Image dos and don'ts, Wikipedia:How to upload a photo or Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard. As for how to use non-free use rationale, you basically add it to the file's page and complete the parameters as explained in the template's documentation; for the copyright license template, you just need to add the template as is since there are no parameters to complete. You can practice doing both of these things in your user sandbox.

I get that uploading files can be tricky, especially for new editors. However, every time someone points you to a page where you can find more specific information or suggests a page where you can ask for more help, your responses are basically always along the lines of "I still don't understand" or "Please tell me how". I suggested that you ask for help with this at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video Games since that's a good place to ask about video game screenshots, but you haven't seemed to have tried that yet. There are only so many ways to explain something and I'm not sure how to try and explain this to you any better or any differently than I already have. Your account is only about a week old so nobody is expecting you to know everything there is to know about Wikipedia, but perhaps you'd might be better off focusing on other things instead of uploading images so as to get a better feel for editing and other things Wikipedia. Maybe with a little more experience under your belt, you'll be better able to understand how to do things like uploading a file and then adding it to a page work. If at that time you still can't figure things out, you can always request that someone else upload the file for you at Wikipedia:Files for upload. -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:12, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: I think you've just given me the page name. WP:File Upload Wizard. -- Bank: Bank Robbery started a robbery (notify) 23:18, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: Even I have found the page, I cannot start uploading. Why? -- Bank: Bank Robbery started a robbery (notify) 23:29, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

I'm sorry but I don't know why you're now having problems with the Upload Wizard. It could be you're doing something incorrectly or it could be a problem that has nothing to do with you. You might be better of asking for help at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) because that's where those who are really familiar with the technical aspects of Wikipedia tend to hang out. Just explain exactly what you're trying to do and where you're having the problem. It might be easier for someone at the Village Pump to figure out why you're having problems if you list everything you're doing in the order that you're doing it; for example, I did "X" first, then I did "Y" and finally I did "Z". -- Marchjuly (talk) 13:50, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

@Marchjuly: Village Pump? X? Y? Z? -- Bank: Bank Robbery started a robbery (notify) 06:38, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Article creation

How do I know if I have been confirmed or autoconfirmed — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taymeedeeray (talk • contribs) 12:45, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

@Taymeedeeray: A person becomes autoconfirmed when they have their account for 4 days and made at least 10 edits. You can also check by going to your preferences. LPS and MLP Fan (Littlest Pet Shop) (My Little Pony) 12:59, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Your account will become autoconfirmed when it's been in place for 4 days. If you are referring to Draft:The Voice Nigeria season 2 you ought not to try to move it to mainspace in its current state even when you're autoconfirmed. It has no references to published reliable sources, so it would be deleted if you moved it to mainspace. You'll find advice at WP:Your first article. --David Biddulph (talk) 13:03, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I have improved my draft page Draft:The Voice Nigeria season 2.Help me check if it's good enough for submission Taymeedeeray (talk) 05:36, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

I am afraid it is not, Taymeedeeray. It has only two cited sources. One is obviously based on a press release and so does not count toward notability. The other is primarily about a contestant, and gives the show itself only brief coverage. This is not close to enough to pass our guideline on general notability. there need to be several Independent published reliable sources that discuss the topic in some detail. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 05:52, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks,Please how can I make it good enough for submission.Can somebody offer me help. I have seen pages with less cited sources that have been approved. Please educate me about it Taymeedeeray (talk) 06:40, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Taymeedeeray The argument WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS seems logical but never works on Wikipedia. If another article does not meet the standards, it may have slipped through, but that does not justify doing so in another case. And there may be particular reason in some other case which does not apply here. In any case, the only way to make this good enough for submission and then to pass review and be accepted is to find additional sources, probably 3-5 sources if possible. All the additional sources must discuss the show in some detail, say 4-5 paragraphs at least, depending on how the sources are written. All must be independent and reliable. Otherwise they will not count. It is as simple, and as hard, as that. Many bad sources are actually worse than none -- they hide any good sources present. Please read Your First Article and referencing for Beginners. Nothing else will work. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 06:50, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

I really appreciate your help. Apart from the cited sources issue. Is there anything else wrong with the page Draft:The Voice Nigeria season 2. Taymeedeeray (talk) 07:01, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Taymeedeeray the sources are by far the most important thing. It seems to me that the ratio of test to tables is too low m-- there there is too little text for the large amount of information in table form. Biut all info shoulkd be supported by reliable sources. This includes info in tables.

Ideally, tables should be so designed that color helps but the information is available without color distinction. Remember that some readers are color-blind. But all of that can wait until you have the basic independent, relaible sources. Without them, nothing else is of any use or value. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 07:16, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Please I want to learn how to submit my article Taymeedeeray (talk) 13:28, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

You had an answer to your original question at #Article creation above, but please don't waste the time of reviewers by submitting before you have addressed the advice above regarding inadequate sources. --David Biddulph (talk) 14:42, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Note: The Voice Nigeria already has a section for season 2 at The Voice Nigeria#Season 2 (2017). Should there be a separate article, or should it be integrated into that section? Season 1 does not have its own article. As far as style, you might look at the styles used by other Voice franchise shows and/or Nigerian TV reality shows and look at the relevant Wikipedia:WikiProject Africa and Wikipedia:WikiProject Television. We try to maintain consistency in styles where possible. I've started a discussion about this and the phantom season 3 at Talk:The Voice Nigeria#Season 3?. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 22:45, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

AlanM1The creation of separate articles for each season is the right thing to do as many other versions of the voice also adopt this system. The creation of seasons in the main page of the series is wrong as it will make the page jam-packed. The creation of separate pages for each season will be more informative and organized. Check for other versions of the voice for more information. Will soon create a page for the first season also. All we need is more reliable sources I would appreciate it if you can help with the creation of the first two seasons Taymeedeeray (talk) 08:59, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

@Taymeedeeray: I just wanted to point out the existing material in case you were unaware, to ensure that it is removed or made consistent with the separate article, gets a {{See also}} or equivalent template, etc. I don't have any experience with that particular show or Nigerian sources, though the WikiProjects might. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 22:20, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Created article - need help

I created the article, "Astara (Spiritual)" but it was deleted because I had copied and pasted it. I have now paraphrased it and used more than one source as advised at the help desk. Please edit it to make it conform to the rules of wikipedia. Thanks!—Spasiba5 (talk) 13:10, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Spasiba5 Hello and welcome to the Teahouse. The only sources you have are the dictionary definition of the term, and a website associated with the movement. This does not establish notability. Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state about article subjects that meet that special definition of notability. You will need at least three such sources that give in depth coverage to this subject.

If you haven't already, you may want to read Your First Article and use the new user tutorial to better understand what is being looked for in new articles. 331dot (talk) 13:35, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

@331dot: @MoonyTheDwarf: @Fyrael: can you edit it to make it acceptable?—Spasiba5 (talk) 13:53, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Spasiba5 I don't know anything about the subject and don't have the time to research it. However, no amount of editing can make something notable. If you do not have independent sources establishing that the subject is notable, it would not merit an article at this time, regardless of how well it is written. If you think such sources exist, but you need time to find them, I would suggest that you consent to the page being moved to Draft space where you can work on it with less fear of deletion. 331dot (talk) 13:58, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

I could find only 2 references online. So do you think it is going to be deleted again?—Spasiba5 (talk) 14:07, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Spasiba5, It does not appear that it's notable enough to stay, sorry. MoonyTheDwarf (Braden N.) (talk) 16:41, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

@331dot: @MoonyTheDwarf: @Fyrael: OK since that article may be deleted, I made this edit that can be seen here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/924052629

Is that edit acceptable?—Spasiba5 (talk) 17:26, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

I'm not sure if you linked the correct diff, but that seems to just be removing a few words in the article. Sure it's acceptable, but it doesn't change anything about the notability of this topic. -- Fyrael (talk) 18:35, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

@Fyrael: Sorry, the correct link is this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/924076960 — Spasiba5 (talk) 18:57, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Spasiba5, no, that edit was not acceptable. A disambiguation page should include only one-line definitions with links to existing Wikipedia articles. If Astara (Spiritual) is deleted via the current AfD, then it will be removed from all disambiguation (DAB) pages. And if it is not, then there should be only the usual one line description and link there. That is what is in the page now, and should stay unless the article is deleted, in which case it should be removed. The article Astara (Spiritual) currently seems likely to be deleted unless better sources can be found, but there is still time to look for independent published reliable sources that discuss the subject in some detail. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 21:23, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

@DESiegel: I am new here and may not be able to find a "reliable source", can you please do that? Thanks in advance!—Spasiba5 (talk) 15:24, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Frankly, Spasiba5 that is why we advise people to work on existing articles before trying to create new articles from a blank start. In the case of Astara (Spiritual) I rather suspect that sources do not exist. Not every possible topic will ever have an article on Wikipedia. Topics must be "notable" for an article to be created and not deleted. This means that people not involved with the topic must have written about it, in some detail, in reliable sources. If that hasn't happened, Wikipedia can't report what those sources say, and that is what Wikipedia articles do. What a person knows through personal experience, or what a subject says about him-, her- or itself, is not ewnough. There need to be independent sources, and you might well know better where to find them in this case than I. Have there been news stories, or magazine articles or books written about Astara by people not involved in running the group, either online or offline? Do you know of any such? I can run a quick google search, and I will, but that doesn't find everything, and if yu know of such a siource, this is the time. If you tell me what the source is and where it was published, I might be able to help format it and insert it into the article. In future, please don't try to create a new articel unless you have the sources in hand first. It saves so much trouble. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 16:46, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

HELLO TEAHOUSE

Can I join Global Sysops and global block and unblock groups together at the same time ?. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dreambar (talk • contribs) 19:15, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

@Dreambar: Well, probably not. WP:ADMIN describes the role of admins and the RfA process. In short, you generally need experience (thousands of edits) with many different types of Wikipedia activities (especially WP:RFD) over at least several months (usually years), and in-depth familiarity with its policies and processes. I suggest getting some experience and honing your skills before considering applying for adminship, which is called "the mop" by many admins, referring to it being more work than privilege. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 23:17, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Global sysops are unrelated to the admins on English Wikipedia. @Dreambar: only stewards can perform global blocks/unblocks. If you have further questions about global permissions, you should ask on Meta. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 09:25, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Changing the default size of thumbnails for Wikipedia and related issue re text.

I've uploaded an image to Wikimedia and included it in an article but it's smaller than the right sidebar allows, so it just doesn't look great. I've played with photo_size = 200px (and 300px) but they make no difference. How to do this?

Also, the descriptive text is, now that I see it in use, a tad too long. Can I edit it, and how? TIA, Brett. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrettA343 (talk • contribs) 19:46, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Hello, BrettA343. Are you referring to Christian Peak and the use in it of File:Christian Peak.jpg? (I ask in part because it seems that the uploadeer of that image was Ron Clausen, not your account.) That image is used via {{Infobox mountain}}. While that tempalte does support setting an explicit size via {para|photo_size}}, if this is left unset the image is rezed for each user to accommodate that user's individualk preferences, which is usually the best option. The photo caption can be set with |photo_caption=, which is currently blank.

If you had a different article in mind, please link to it so that specific advice can be given. The details of the coding on the page matter. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 21:38, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

No, I'm not referring to Christian Peak or its photo (though that's one of the 'models' I'm using to try to figure out how to add photos). I'm referring to Mount Lyell (Canada) and a new photo I added to Wikimedia (with descriptions that work in Preview, so I'm not using the photo_caption field). Since it's in Preview, it seems to me I can't link to it, unless I put it in just temporarily if need be to allow specific advice. Another issue I have is that there's a thin border around my image and caption (i.e. Wikimedia description) that I'd like to not show up. BrettA343 (talk) 22:30, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

BrettA343 I take it that you refer to File:MtLyell54321LyellIcefieldFromForbesSummit.jpg which is ncertianly a stiking image. Thanks for uploading it. If your change is "in Preview" I take it that you haven't saved (published) the change. in that case no one else can see it, and there is no way to give you advice. You could copy the wikitext of Mount Lyell (Canada), or the relevant section of it, to a test page such as User:BrettA343/Tests/Mount Lyell, make your change there, and save it. Then you could link to the test page and others could see it and advise. If you do that, please include Content copied from [[Mount Lyell (Canada)]] as of {date & time}, see history there for attribution in the edit summery when you paste in the copied wikitext . As to the think white boirder around he image, I think that is created by {{Infobox mountain}}, and i don't see a parameter or setting to change it when using that template. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 23:20, 1 November 2019 (UTC)

Your solution, DESiegel, seemed a tad onerous, so I just published (I assume you added the photo - thanks!). It seems there's a glitch between the Preview and published articles, because the photo: 1. Fit perfectly when 'live' (but was about 4/5th size in Preview), and 2. Lacked the dark border that exists in preview. So, problem solved! Thanks again - now to figure out refs! BrettA343 (talk) 00:07, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Well, I spoke too quickly with my 'Problem solved', because with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mistaya_Mountain the image is both small and has an unwanted, thin black or grey border (the caption text wraps down a line, too). The only difference from my POV is that I've cropped this 16:9 to remove a watermark. Help, please! BrettA343 (talk) 04:10, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

@BrettA343: Many infoboxes make their own image code and want the file name alone in a parameter. See the template page for documentation, in this case Template:Infobox mountain#Photographic and mapping parameters. I have followed that.[1] Spaces and sentence case is preferred in file names. You can select the name at upload time. It doesn't have to be the same as at your end. Don't try to change the already uploaded file names but think about it if you upload new files. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:11, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, PrimeHunter, it seems I have a lot to learn! Also thanks to DESiegel, for your help above. BrettA343 (talk) 17:28, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

My pleasure to be of help, BrettA343. Its why I come here. You are very welcome. By the way, a ping doesn't work unles sit is signed in the same edit. If one is mi-typed (as I do far too often) one must either resign the corrected ping, or attach a new ping with a new signature for the notification to happnen. No problem in this case. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 18:08, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

HDI tag on Mumbai

Hello, I would like to know why no one has put a HDI tag on cities like Mumbai, Kolkata, Chennai and Bangalore? Especially Mumbai as it is an alpha city recognised internationally at +0.85 HDI!! Thankyou! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Riddhidev BISWAS (talk • contribs) 03:02, 2 November 2019 (UTC) Riddhidev BISWAS (talk) 18:22, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Riddhidev BISWAS, and welcome to the Teahouse. The usual answer to "why has nobody done X" is "because nobody has chosen to do it": Wikipedia is a volunteer project, and people work on what they choose. You are welcome to add this information (I see you have provided a source, which is good). However, the way you have tried to do so has no effect, because you have tried to add it to the "HDI" parameter of {{infobox settlement}}; but that infobox has no such parameter, so it gets ignored. If you think it is important, you can add it to the text of the article. You can also, if you wish, argue for the parameter to be added to the infobox template, so that it can be used in future. Make that argument at Template talk:Infobox settlement. (I see that somebody made the same suggestion a year and a half ago, but nobody responded or acted on it, so it might be an idea to drop a note at WT:WikiProject Infoboxes or WT:WikiProject Cities as well). -- (talk) 10:24, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks a lot ColinFine.

Fylindfotberserk did the necessary to add the HDI tag. Riddhidev BISWAS (talk) 14:36, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Right name but wrong band

My friend's band is called The Supertones and they are an instrumental surf-rock band from Manhattan NYC that has released over 20 albums and are legends in the surf guitar world. There is another band called OC Supertones who are a grunge rock band from Orange County CA. The band on this Wiki page features The Supertones, (in the later revivalists) who are credited in the page but it links to OC Supertones Wiki page.

List of surf musicians

On none of this band's albums are they called The Supertones but they are always called OC Supertones or Orange County Supertones. Can Wikipedia make them change OC Supertones name so The Supertones can be rightfully given the right sounding page name? We want to start building the Supertones history page on Wikipedia right away. What is the process?

Thank you for looking into this matter...

yours truly Rob Stevens Rock Rose Music — Preceding unsigned comment added by Music web guy (talk • contribs) 03:34, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Music web guy and welcome to the Teahouse. I would suggest that you create Draft:The Supertones. If you can find appropriate Independent published reliable sources to support an article, each can be appropriately listed in List of surf musicians.

Please in future sign comments on discussion pages like this, and talk pages, with four tildes(~~~~). The wiki software will convert them to your signature and a timestamp.

Do you by any chance have a Conflict of interest with this band or others I see you are writing about? Are you perhaps a paid editor? If you are or expect to be paid, you must disclose this in accordance with WP:PAID. If you are associated with any of these bands, please read and comply with the COI guideline. If all of this is not relevant to you, please understand that many new editors do have such conflicts and we need to ask. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 04:45, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

To emphasise something that DES said, Music web guy: Wikipedia only takes note of subjects that are notable (in its own special meaning). Unless your friend's band has been written about in independent reliable sources, or won a major award, Wikipedia will not take note of it, and no article will be accepted however it is written. It will also not be able to be added to any lists, or disambiguation. Wikipedia is not part of anybody's publicity or web presence: it is an encyclopaedia covering notable subjects. --ColinFine (talk) 10:57, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Colin - still the Wikipedia link I listed above called List Of Surf Musicians is incorrect. The OC Supertones are not a Surf band (as the article portends) but rather a Ska / Punk band. The real Supertones band, simply called The Supertones, as they are listed in the article, are the right band. This link needs to be fixed to corroborate the actual band mentioned on the page. I would think that Wikipedia would want to have the correct information about this important band on a page that is supposed to be factual. I know I am new on Wikipedia but I am a noted expert in my field and I have evidentiary references to support this fact. I am only trying to support the truth as I use Wikipedia in my everyday life and fully support the knowledge it offers. I am a well known musicologist, editor and web site owner for over 47 years. Thank you for your work. RSMusic web guy (talk) 18:34, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Standard message to notify contributors about an administrative ruling in effect

User:Piotrus place this on my talk. Is he an administrator? Do I need to read Wikipedia:Arbitration Committee/Discretionary sanctions and Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Eastern Europe? Do I need to read Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Piotrus and Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Eastern European mailing list linked from there? Do I need to read Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Antisemitism in Poland I saw in Haaretz? That's a whole lot of reading. Can Piotrus demand he pre-approve anything I remove? Is it OK he make fun of my English? Gunter888 (talk) 05:02, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

@Gunter888: Anyone can place warning templates, much less notification templates.

Really, the notification is so that we can say you were warned if an uninvolved administrator (looks like that's me, at the moment) decides to impose discretionary sanctions on you. For this reason, it would be a good idea for you to read Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Eastern Europe and any policies mentioned there (as well as WP:Assume good faith).

Also, "Nicht" isn't English. Asking you to use English where possible (especially when you know the right word) is not "making fun" of you. That you are taking it that way suggest that you really need to read WP:Assume good faith until you get why I've linked it twice even though I know I'm not the first person to do so. Ian.thomson (talk) 05:11, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

This is the second time he did this. Sometimes when I type fast or if I don't proof my text my German comes out of the cracks. It slips in when it is the same word in German and English. I don't try to do this on purpose. I did proof every text I put in outside of talk. Knowing English, being able to write OK English if I proof, does not stop my from mixing German in when I type faster. Gunter888 (talk) 05:47, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

The solution to this particular problem is both obvious and simple, then, Gunter888. Slow down your typing speed until German does not creep into your English writing. Proofread your text, including your talk page comments. Talk pages are not places for you to write in a confusing blend of German and English. This should be self-evident. Cullen³²⁸ Let's discuss it 06:00, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Is it OK to remove old notices about bad behaviour or is the user talk page intended to be a permanent record?

For example, when I was a young and naive user of Wikipedia, I misguidedly created a frivolous page. The notice of nomination for speedy deletion is still on my talk page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theanswertolifetheuniverseandeverything (talk • contribs) 11:11, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Theanswertolifetheuniverseandeverything You are permitted to remove content from your user talk page in most cases.(there's a few exceptions that I don't need to go into, but in general you can) User talk pages are not meant as permanent records. The record of the edit will remain in your edit history, but that is harder for people to find than if it is just on your user talk page. 331dot (talk) 11:23, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Welcome to the Teahouse, Theanswertolifetheuniverseandeverything. Further to 331dot's comments, you can read more about this at WP:REMOVED. Cordless Larry (talk) 11:36, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

@Theanswertolifetheuniverseandeverything: See the Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines#User talk pages:

Personal talk page cleanup: Although archiving is preferred, users may freely remove comments from their own talk pages. Users may also remove some content in archiving. The removal of a warning is taken as evidence that the warning has been read by the user. (...)

HTH :) --CiaPan (talk) 11:48, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Sorting an ambiguous title

I am still editing an article submitted as an AfC that currently has been given a working title of William Oliver (painter). I worry that this could cause future confusion as, in addition to 'my' William Oliver (1823-1901), there is another well known painter William Oliver (1804-1853). He is no relation to the younger person, who has, in the literature, sometimes been wrongly assumed to be the son and has been referred to as William Oliver (junior) or William Oliver (II). Would a better title be William Oliver (1823-1901) or can there be some form of disambiguation put in place in future?

All this assumes hopefully, of course, that my article will be accepted. BFP1 (talk) 14:40, 2 November 2019 (UTC)BFP1

Added correction to clarify that William Oliver (1821-1901) was sometimes erroneously assumed to be the son.BFP1 (talk) 15:33, 2 November 2019 (UTC)BFP1

Hello, BFP1, and welcome to the Teahouse. If you can find good sources, and write a reasonable article, that potential confusion should not matter. If and when a reviewer approves the draft, the reviewer is responsible for moving it to the main article space and choosing an acceptable article title that avoids confusion. There can also be various devises, such as a disambiguation page to help clarify to readers who the article is about and distinguish that person from others of the same or similar name. This is not a new problem, and Wikipedia has techniques for dealing with it. The most common ways to distinguish individuals is by parenthetical years such as William Oliver (1823-1901) or occupation, such as William Oliver (painter), whichever best avoids confusion. There are other possibilities. Don't worry about the name too much, just find good sources and write a good draft using them. Noe that if some reliable sources say that the two men are father and son, even if you are sure that is wrong, the draft should say that -- we follow the sources. If other sources say that they are not related, the draft should mention both, and perhaps say why one view seems more plausible. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 16:59, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks DESiegel. I'll just wait and keep my fingers crossed. Regards BFP1 (talk) 17:20, 2 November 2019 (UTC)BFP1

BFP1 can you tell me which source or sources incorrectly indicated that the two men of the same name were father and son, and which source or sources indicated that they are not related? With that, i could do a bit of work and perhaps get this ready for main article space. Intersted in some collaboration? DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 18:10, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Hello DESiegel, The following mentions William Oliver the Younger: http://www.artnet.com/artists/william-oliver-the-younger/ And the following indicates that 'my' Oliver's actual name was William Oliver Williams while William Oliver was his professional name: http://www.bentonfineart.com/in-the-garden~377. I have tried to explain some of this in my draft. William Oliver (1804-1853) had only one son William Redivivous Oliver. The confusion arises as 'my' Oliver did not use his real surname professionally. I may have some other scraps of information BFP1 (talk) 19:07, 2 November 2019 (UTC)BFP1

Dear DESiegel, There are widespread examples of the relationship error on the web as seen by the following. https://fineart.ha.com/itm/fine-art-painting-european/william-oliver-the-younger-british-1823-1901-blowing-bubbles-1869oil-on-canvas34-1-2-x-25-inches-876-x-635-c/a/5285-61522.s https://www.morphyauctions.com/jamesdjulia/item/1178-390/ https://www.lyonandturnbull.com/auction/lot/455-WILLIAM-OLIVER-THE-YOUNGER-BRITISH-1823-1901/?lot=138294&sd=1 https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/william-oliver-the-younger-british-1823-1901-oi-188-c-e2ef48008a https://www.liveauctioneers.com/en-gb/item/10724116_205-william-oliver-the-younger-1823-1901-oil-on-canv It would be useful if an article could correct this.BFP1 (talk) 08:52, 3 November 2019 (UTC)BJP1::::::::Put necessary space in URL list BFP1 (talk) 09:14, 3 November 2019 (UTC)BFP1

Thank you, BFP1 That will be very helpful. I haven't done much on the draft yet, but I will try to do more later today if I can. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 16:27, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks DESiegel. No problem, take your time. BFP1 (talk) 16:51, 3 November 2019 (UTC)BFP1

submitting articles for review

how do i submit my articles for review — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhee jah (talk • contribs) 18:38, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

@Dhee jah: If you have a draft already, you can add to it {{subst:submit}} to submit it for review. If you don't have the draft yet, you can follow the steps at WP:YFA and use the wizard there to create a draft for review. RudolfRed (talk) 19:01, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello Dhee jah, and welcome to the Teahouse. Articles that are already iin the main article space do not get reviewed in that sense. Drafts, which are potential articles do. If a draft already has an Articles for Creation template in place, as Draft:Yaa Jackson does, then you can submit for review by simply clicking the blue button that says "Submit your draft for review" near the bottom of the box now at the top of the draft. If there was no such box, you could submit for review by adding {{subst:submit}} at the top of the draft and saving (publishing) the change.

However, I would advise doing some more work on Draft:Yaa Jackson before submitting it. I am not sure that peacefmonline is a reliable source, the ghanaweb source is based on an interview and so counts little toward notability, The Pulse source has some value but is not really in depth, and a google search is not a valid source at all, and should not be used. Additional good reliable sources are needed in this draft, and submitting nit without them would only waste your time, and that of the reviewer, in my view. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 19:15, 2 November 2019 (UTC) @Dhee jah: DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 19:16, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

How to create redlinks

Hi. I'm sure this is a dumb question, but I can't for the life of me figure out how to create a redlink. There is a film called Hot Air with the actor Matthew Gray Gubler (and many others). I'd like to create that Wiki page for Hot Air, but I need to edit 10 times before being allowed to do so. I figured one quick way would be to go to the actors' Wiki pages featured in Hot Air and create a redlink for Hot Air.

For reference, here is Gubler's page linked to his film credits: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Gray_Gubler#Film

Thanks for your patience and help!

Sincerely, JG — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1jgoldstein (talk • contribs) 19:39, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

If you create a link to a page which doesn't exist, that makes it a redlink, see WP:Red link. --David Biddulph (talk) 19:51, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

@1jgoldstein: Welcome to Wikipedia, and thanks for wanting to add to it. You create a red link by linking to something that does not exist, like this: flooberbobber. But, instead of rushing to get edits, you should instead work on your article as a draft, which anyone can do, by following the steps at WP:YFA and using the wizard there to create a draft for review. RudolfRed (talk) 19:52, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

@1jgoldstein: There is already a page at Hot Air so the film would be at Hot Air (film) and linked with [[Hot Air (film)|Hot Air]] which produces Hot Air. I see you already made links to Hot Air movie. That is not how we make titles when a name is taken. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:28, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

Please why was my post rejected?

Good day, sorry to bother you. I made my first post here, earlier today but it was rejected.

I'll like to know why, where I went wrong and how I can better make that post for it to be approved.

I'm really new here and I'll be glad if you could help me better my contribution skills on this platform.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikkyly (talk • contribs) 20:39, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

The reviewer who rejected (stronger than declined) your Sandbox made clear that this person (you) do not meet Wikipedia's definition of notable, meaning that people with no connection to you have published articles about you and your accomplishments. This is not a matter of improving the draft. Wikipedia is not a social media. David notMD (talk) 20:53, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hello, Mikkyly, and welcoem to the Teahouse. It seems that you attempted, at User:Mikkyly/sandbox to create an autobiography, a draft for an article about yourself. This is strongly discouraged as you will see if you follow tge link and read our guideline on autobiography. But what is fatal is that there are no independent (3rd-party) published reliable sources discussing you in some detail. Even worse, the draft seems to be an attempt to promote yourself, and to appeal for funds. Neither of those are acceptable on Wikipedia, see our guideline on promotion. If you want to contribute, wonderful. Please select some topic other than yourself, your business, your family, or other things you are closely associated with. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 21:00, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

edits

When you look up a certain let's say place, park, school, etc details on the right side of your computer screen pop up or when you look it up on your phone it pops up. and you can press the show more button. how do you edit that without going into Wikipedia? — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnonymousFriend123 (talk • contribs) 00:56, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

@AnonymousFriend123: Are you referring to something like Google's Knowledge Graph? The information there comes from many sources and Wikipedia does not have any control over Google. RudolfRed (talk) 02:04, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

@AnonymousFriend123: Without more details about what you're seeing and where (like what URL you are browsing), it's hard to understand what you're asking. If you are seeing information from a Wikipedia article, you edit it from Wikipedia; that's pretty much all there is to it. What are you trying to accomplish or why don't you want to be "going into Wikipedia"? —[AlanM1(talk)]— 05:47, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Mountain Photos - Does Wiki Want Decent 'View From Summit' Shots Rather Than No Shots At All?

Not the clearest of filenames: ViewFromMistayaSummitToSAndTheWaptaIcefield

Some mountains aren't particularly majestic and have no shots at all in Wikipedia and no good prospects of shots, but some of these peaks have great views. Rather than no photo at all, are passable photos of views from the summit acceptable? They could always be turfed or moved below the right sidebar if someone comes up with a shot that shows the mountain well. BrettA343 (talk) 01:39, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

BrettA343 If the photo improves the article in yo9ur opinion, and is relevant, why not be WP:BOLD? There is no rule that a photo in an infobox for a mountain must be of the mountain as far as I know. But you could always discuss at an article talk page, or if there is an active relevant wikiproject, on its discussion page. Use a descriptiove caption, perhaps "View from Mount XYZ showing ..." or soemthing of the sort. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 01:57, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

By the way, "Wiki" is a type of software, used on many many sites. This site is Wikipedia. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 01:57, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

@BrettA343: I completely agree with DESiegel in that views from summits can definitely enhance some mountain articles- especially if they show distinctive ridges, icefields, mountain huts, access routes etc. But these should be added with care so that they do actually enhance the encyclopaedic nature article, rather than simply show off your photographic or mountaineering abilities. Do consider joining WP:WikiProject Mountains or WP:WikiProject Alps if these topics interest you, and remember that you don't even have to place the image within the article, but simply add appropriate categorisation to your photos to allow a user to find all the images relevant to that mountain on Commons. Looking at your uploads, thus far], I suggest you make a declaration on your Commons userpage that you are/were the owner of Intersite Imaging, and be prepared to prove that, if necessary. The folks over at Commons are very fussy about potential copyright infringements, and tend to flag anything dubious for speedy deletion, especially if they see watermarks like those on some of your images. We have a system called 'OTRS which allows an editor to supply off-wiki evidence that they own the rights to their photos, though there should rarely be any need for these to contain watermarks. Another minor helpful tip is to suggest that you make clearer filenames with spaces in them. This makes it a lot easier to find an image and appreciate its contents. All the best, Nick Moyes (talk) 21:05, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

So I've made clearer filenames for my last upload as three of you suggested (it's a bit of a pain since I have to rename all uploads from what I found useful - upper case 'S' meant South BTW - my other view shot was to the NW), but I'll just be a bit slower with things. I'm generally not a 'joiner' and don't know if I'll join a project, and I note that some people haven't been active for more than a decade in "Mountains", which makes me wonder about the need for more users or any benefit to me. I'm here mainly because Wikipedia asked me to donate $ or time and I don't have $ to spare. And I don't know how I could 'prove' my ownership to Intersite Imaging over the 'net, since I toasted it maybe a decade ago, so if their fussiness becomes a hassle, I'm gone. I thought that's what the ownership questions were for - I've clicked that the work is mine and that means the work IS mine. The other reason I joined is that Google Earth (& therefore Google Maps) are using my photos incorrectly (especially for Mts. Lyell (& Walter Peak), Forbes and Arctomys), so I'm starting here for areas that need addressing so Google Earth will listen to me and not reject my (correct) suggestions for change. Rant over. BrettA343 (talk) 23:10, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

No worries, BrettA343. Yeah - some people join projects, then move on; others remain active editors for years. The reason for 'fussiness' over images is actually intended to protect the interests of genuine rights holders like you and other photographers, not to be awkward (though I confess it can seem like that, sometimes!) But here on Wikipedia we don't control what happens on that sister project. And yet so many other people do claim images they've uploaded are their own when it turns out they're not. So a pretty firm approach is taken wherever there's doubt. Anyway, it's great to see your pictures - I was up roughly that way last summer, itching to get up high above the snowline, but had to stay low down with a touring family camping holiday with the kids. It was still great to see the mountains from lower down for a change. Regards from the UK,  Nick Moyes (talk) 01:25, 4 November 2019 (UTC)    

Promotional article

How can I change my article from a promotion to an actual accepted artical? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hakuna Lengo (talk • contribs) 02:16, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

@Hakuna Lengo: I added a header to your question. The best way forward is to stop editing articles you are connected to. Remember this is an encyclopedia and not an avenue of promoting or advertising your business. RudolfRed (talk) 02:22, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

You have been blocked for working on and submitting promotional content. You will first have to appeal your block on your Talk page before being allowed to edit existing articles or attempt to create a new article. I suggest that your appeal include a promise to not try to create an article on the topic that led to your block. David notMD (talk) 10:13, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

User talk section headers

I've been idly wondering how so many user talk pages have sections (mostly warnings) with a section title consisting of a month and year, such as "September 2019". Is this some kind of guideline everyone knows about, or is there some software tool which autogenerates these section titles? Airbornemihir (talk) 10:20, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Airbornemihir, that would be WP:TWINKLE. There's dozens of things I would never do, some absolutely essential, but for the ease with which Twinkle allows me to do them. Usedtobecool ^TALK ✨ 10:27, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

@Airbornemihir: Wikipedia:WikiProject User warnings/Usage and layout#Layout also suggests it. It helps see recents warnings. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:54, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

@Usedtobecool and PrimeHunter: thanks! Airbornemihir (talk) 16:37, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Life and Carrier

apparent proposed artifcle content
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Saad UllahRaheem Performance at Tehreek TV show Edithttp://saadullahrahim.wordpress.com He also used to write this program's script and, as a host of the show, used to try to keep it focused on the political comedy and satire and not let it wander aimlessly.[2] The crew and cast of Sim Sim used to do parodies or mimicries of Pakistan's known politicians like Sheikh Rasheed Ahmad, Rehman Malik, Shahbaz Sharif, Anwar Maqsood, Pakistani TV personality Tariq Aziz and pop music artist Ali Azmat among many others. Saad Ullah Raheem also used to include a short educational segment in this program, called Awam Lachar in which he used to point out the pronunciation errors in commonly used. His wife Kishwer Sultana has been appointed as Principal of Lahore College of Women University, Lahore, attracting ire from the opposition parties who think that Saad Ullah Raheem has been rewarded for supporting the Pakistan Tehreek-e-Insaf government which is in power in Pakistan in 2019.[2] . Now a Days(2019) Saad Ullah Raheem playing new show Siah Si Batein on web Tv news channel Tehreek — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saad UllahRaheem (talk • contribs) 21:14, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

@Saad UllahRaheem: It looks like you want to make changes to an article about yourself, place the request on the article's talk page along with {{Edit request}}. RudolfRed (talk) 21:39, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

If you are trying to write an article about yourself, please read the advice against it, see WP:Autobiography. --David Biddulph (talk) 21:46, 3 November 2019 (UTC)

Seeking someone knowledgeable

Hello,

I had a new user (User:FireWallDragon) asked me a couple of questions today. I tried to respond as best I could using the notes I have and my own limited knowledge (see here), but I really didn't want to lead them astray, I was thinking someone experienced might post a note on FireWallDragon's talk page who would be more helpful and set everything straight in case I said something incorrect. I'm logging off but if you want to leave me a message saying what I was wrong about I'll see it eventually. 2604:2000:8FC0:4:617F:E9A7:AF1C:4546 (talk) 05:35, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

I have responded on the IP's talkpage, which is where the conversation started.Captain Eek ^{Edits Ho Cap'n!}⚓ 06:36, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

and I have responded on User:FireWallDragon as requested. DES ^(talk)_{DESiegel Contribs} 06:54, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Proposing separate page for Adani Group's subsidiary company Adani Transmission

The Adani Group has many subsidiary companies that are operating parallelly. Adani Transmission is one of the largest power transmission companies in India under which many projects operate. Incorporating all the information on the page of the parent company may result in the addition of an excessive amount of intricate detail. This is why I am proposing a separate page for its subsidiary company. There are sufficient independent reliable sources available to do the same. Pushpullshove (talk) 06:53, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

The place for discussing it is the article's talk page. The procedure is described at WP:Splitting. --David Biddulph (talk) 08:07, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Draft:Titiksha (Festival)

So I created a Wikipedia page for the annual festival of our university and since I'm here you can guess that it was rejected. The reason is that there are no credible references. The references I provided are from news posts which were published during festivals from the most reputed 50+ years old news publishers. Also since the event happens every year from the last 11 years, it should be notable too.

Draft link https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Titiksha_(Festival)

Thank You for the support. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shoaib Ahmed 00 (talk • contribs) 11:30, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Hello, Shoaib Ahmed 00, and welcome to the Teahouse. The problem is that the stories you reference from the Excelsior are obviously simply based on press releases from the University. Wikipedia isn't interested in what the people creating or sponsoring an event say about it: it is only interested in what people who have no connection with the subject have chosen to publish about it. If you can find some independent reviews of the festival, that might do it. But it is likely that it does not meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability. --ColinFine (talk) 12:05, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi, ColinFine, thanks for replying. If it's not a news source then I am not sure if a blog post will work because they are not reliable. Pretty much all the references that I am finding from other technical fests pages are news sources. There's even a page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horizon_(festival) which have notice from Wikipedia about reference absence but is still published.

I'm not sure what you mean by a "news source", Shoaib Ahmed 00. The point is that those are not stories where the newspaper has sent a reporter to investigate the festival, and write their own account of it: they are clearly made by reading what the organisers say, and regurgitating it. And you are right, blogs are almost never regarded as reliable. As for Horizon (festival): many of our six million articles were written before our standards became more exacting, and would not be accepted now. That article should probably be nominated for deletion, but the nominator should look for sources first, and add them if they exist. (Ideally, the editor who added the tag should have done so). I am not interested in spending any time on that.

On another subject, please sign your posts on talk and discussion pages, with four tildes (~~~~). If you don't, pings don't work - so I didn't get a notification about your reply even though you pinged me. --ColinFine (talk) 12:59, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

ColinFine thanks for the sign suggestion, I will try that in this comment. So even though it's a state-level technical fest, there is no way to make a Wikipedia page of it?Shoaib Ahmed 00 (talk) 13:11, 4 November 2019 (UTC)