User talk:Kleinzach

Welcome to Wikimedia Commons, Kleinzach!

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Yours sincerely, Marcus Cyron (talk) 12:17, 18 July 2019 (UTC)

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Yuraily Lic (talk) 05:31, 10 August 2019 (UTC)

File tagging File:Rudolfbing1.jpg

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— Marchjuly (talk) 20:22, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

I would be grateful for advice. The image is a low res one taken from a publication dated 1947. No attribution is given in the publication. Thank you. Kleinzach (talk) 21:20, 9 January 2022 (UTC)

Why do you think a photo from a publication has been released under a {{Cc-by-sa-4.0}} Creative Commons license? Only the copyright holder can really to decide to release their work under such a license, and the copyright holder of a photo tends to be the person who takes it. — Marchjuly (talk) 02:20, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

The publication was 1947 (in Britain)! The unattributed, and at this point of time, completely unidentifiable photographer is unlikely to be even alive. Many other early photographs on Wikipedia are exactly like this one. How are they processed? Please try to be helpful and not ask questions to which there are obviously no answers. This is very offputting to contributors who are only trying to help Wikipedia.Kleinzach (talk) 07:20, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

I'm not trying to be offputting. I simply asked what made you think this photo has been released under a {{Cc-by-sa-4.0}} license. Uploaders of files are responsible for justifying why they've uploaded a file under a certain license as explained here. Since Creative Commons licenses didn't exist back in 1947 and they are typically only used by copyright holders to release their own work, it didn't seem like an inappropriate question to ask. Are you the copyright holder? If not and you don't know who is, then you can't really automatically assume that a Creative Commons license can be used just because you're trying to be helpful. A Creative Commons license implies that a file is still under copyright protection but that the copyright holder has decided to make a version available to others to freely use as long as they comply with the terms of the license. One of these terms is "attribution", but you posted above that the file was unattributed. So, who is being attributed here? Wikimedia Commons? You? The COM:EXIF data for the file states it was taken with an iPhone 8 and obviously the iPhone didn't exist in 1947; so, I'm assuming you took a photo of the original photo so that you could upload it. That, however, doesn't give you any copyright claim to original work as explained here. As for the many other early photographs on Wikipedia you're referring to, I've got know idea what they are, how they're licensed or whether they've even photos uploaded to Commons. English Wikipedia and some of the other language Wikipedias do host files locally, but these usually tend to be files that cannot be hosted on Commons for some reason (e.g. COM:FAIR); moreover, even for files uploaded to Commons, it's possible that they aren't correctly licensed or that their circumstances are exactly the same as this particular file.

In the United States, anonymous works first published outside of the US between 1927 and 1963 are not automatically within the public domain until 95 years after their date of first publication per COM:HIRTLE. In the COM:United Kingdom, basic copyright applies for 70 years after the author's death (or p.m.a), but that's only when it's known for sure who the author was and when they died. For anonymous works in the UK, the general term seems to be 70 years after first publication, but more needs to be known about the en:provenance of the photo to determine that. Commons typically requires that the files it hosts be "free" (i.e. be released under a free license or within the public domain) in both their countries of origin and the United States. It's possible for a photo to be within the public domain in the former but not the latter (or vice versa) as explained in en:Wikipedia:Non-U.S. copyrights, and in such cases Commons can just automatically keep the photo just because it's being used in some Wikipedia article. If 1947 is assumed to be the year of first publication and the country of origin is the UK, then the photo might already be within the public domain in the UK (1947 + 70 years = 2017), but not yet within the US until 2042 unless the photo was already within the public domain in the UK prior to Janaury 1, 1996.

If you do a search of "Rudolf Bing" using en:Google Images, you'll find that their a number of photos of him being used online and the provenance and thus the copyright status of one of these might be much easier to sort out than this particular one. English Wikipedia also allows non-free images of deceased individuals to be uploaded as non-free content when it's intended to be used for primary identification purposes at the top of or in the main infoboxes of stand-alone articles about the individual in question as long as all ten non-free content use criteria are satisfied. So, it might be possible for a non-free image of Bing to be used in en:Rudolf Bing but most likely not possible to use the same non-free one in en:Edinburgh International Festival. Such non-free images, however, cannot be uploaded to Commons since Commons doesn't accept any type of non-free content. -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:18, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

I've asked a Commons administrator to take a look at this to see if there's any way to keep this photo by simply changing its license to something more appropriate. -- Marchjuly (talk) 09:32, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

Hi, while this image may be in the public domain in the UK in accordance with the terms listed at {{PD-UK-unknown}}, it would appear that it is still copyrighted in the United States as per Marchjuly's assessment above. Kleinzach, you may want to upload the file onto local Wikipedias which allow fair use, as deletion is essentially guaranteed in this case. ✗plicit 11:33, 10 January 2022 (UTC)

File tagging File:Edinburgh International Festival concert and recitals at the Leith Town Hall 1966.jpg

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Pretzelles (talk) 21:13, 9 February 2024 (UTC)