Commons:Deletion requests/Files uploaded by Der Bischof mit der E-Gitarre
Files uploaded by Der Bischof mit der E-Gitarre (talk · contribs)
[edit]These are German photos taken in 1926. Such photos are protected by copyright in the United States for 95 years since publication. Commons files have to be free in both Germany and in the United States.
Stefan4 (talk) 00:27, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
- In that case: May I ask why we have the respective license (anonymous work, EU, published more than 70 years ago) at all? It's useless if Uncle Sam has the final word. --Der Bischof mit der E-Gitarre (talk) 00:40, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
- No, it's not useless. The rule at Commons is that files have to be free in the U.S. and in the source country. A work may be free in the EU as Anonymous-EU and at the same time in the U.S. for a different reason, so then more than one license template is needed to reflect this. Many files here are deleted because they are not free in the EU although they are free in the U.S. (e.g. EU works published prior to 1923 where the creator died less than 70 years ago - public domain in the U.S. but not in the EU). - With regard to this photo (duplicate files), it seems to me that Stefan4 is right, see Commons:Hirtle chart. The photo was published in 1926. This means that it became free in the EU 70 years after publication, on January 1, 1997. That's a year too late, as it was still protected in its source country (Germany) at the URAA date of January 1, 1996. And this "activates" the protection term of 95 years since publication in the U.S., I think. Gestumblindi (talk) 03:19, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
- Well, so we need an additional template: This file may not be used in Wikipedias under the following national jurisdictions... - just as in the German-language Wikipedia files with the US 1923-PD tag may not be used. As for me, I'll avoid the Commons from now on after uploading countless files here. I'm sick of it. --Der Bischof mit der E-Gitarre (talk) 13:48, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
- No, it's not useless. The rule at Commons is that files have to be free in the U.S. and in the source country. A work may be free in the EU as Anonymous-EU and at the same time in the U.S. for a different reason, so then more than one license template is needed to reflect this. Many files here are deleted because they are not free in the EU although they are free in the U.S. (e.g. EU works published prior to 1923 where the creator died less than 70 years ago - public domain in the U.S. but not in the EU). - With regard to this photo (duplicate files), it seems to me that Stefan4 is right, see Commons:Hirtle chart. The photo was published in 1926. This means that it became free in the EU 70 years after publication, on January 1, 1997. That's a year too late, as it was still protected in its source country (Germany) at the URAA date of January 1, 1996. And this "activates" the protection term of 95 years since publication in the U.S., I think. Gestumblindi (talk) 03:19, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
Deleted: INeverCry 00:14, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
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Files uploaded by Der Bischof mit der E-Gitarre (talk · contribs)
[edit]These 1934 presumably German photos (they show mostly German actors and were published in Germany) are claimed to be in the PD because the photographer is unknown and therefore "anonymous".
But that claim isn't applicable to German works, since German law says that pre-1995 anonymous works are only really anonymous if the author (here: the photographer) was never publicly disclosed anywhere, not even in a lecture or similar. One cannot prove that, so pre-1995 "anonymous" works from Germany are not suitable for Commons (or de.wp).
1934 is also not old enough to assume that the photographs must be in the PD anyway, since the photographer(s) easily could have lived beyond 1946.
This means that the files should be deleted per the precautionary principle.
- File:WP Hubert von Meyerinck 2.jpg
- File:WP Hubert von Meyerinck.jpg
- File:WP Käthe von Nagy.jpg
- File:WP Anny Ondra.jpg
- File:WP Renate Müller.jpg
- File:WP Brigitte Helm.jpg
- File:WP Luis Trenker.jpg
Rosenzweig τ 21:02, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. Daphne Lantier 18:22, 19 July 2017 (UTC)
Files uploaded by Der Bischof mit der E-Gitarre (talk · contribs)
[edit]These 1935 presumably German photos (they show mostly German actors and were published in Germany) are claimed to be in the PD because the photographer is unknown and therefore "anonymous".
But that claim isn't applicable to German works, since German law says that pre-1995 anonymous works are only really anonymous if the author (here: the photographer) was never publicly disclosed anywhere, not even in a lecture or similar. One cannot prove that, so pre-1995 "anonymous" works from Germany are not suitable for Commons (or de.wp).
1935 is also not old enough to assume that the photographs must be in the PD anyway, since the photographer(s) easily could have lived beyond 1947.
This means that the files should be deleted per the precautionary principle.
- File:WP Hansi Knoteck.jpg
- File:WP Paula Wessely.jpg
- File:WP Gläsernes Filmatelier Babelsberg außen.jpg
- File:WP Erich Kaiser-Titz.jpg
- File:WP Albert Bassermann.jpg
- File:WP Thea von Harbou.jpg
Rosenzweig τ 18:45, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
Deleted: per nomination. — Racconish 💬 13:03, 23 January 2019 (UTC)