Commons:Deletion requests/File:Joan Finney (Kansas governor).jpg

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File:Joan Finney (Kansas governor).jpg

This picture was deleted on November 5 for having the wrong license, which this file is the exact duplicate… it just has a different license. This picture is copyrighted and no proof has been given that it’s in the public domain. Kansas does not, nor has it ever, released its photographs in the public domain unless given permission by the photographer or authorized designee. Corky 21:12, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

A - It's not the same file.

B - You're asking to prove a negative. How does one prove that something ISN'T copyrighted? I found no indication that it is. Instead, my research indicated that this was a standard photo used for routine tasks like fulfilling autograph requests.

C - Since there's no indication that it is copyrighted, I see no reason this photo can't be added to Wikimedia commons.Billmckern (talk) 21:17, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

@Billmckern: It is the same file - it’s the same picture and same name (with the exception of ‘governor’ being lowercase). Images are automatically copyrighted by the photographer or their employer and lasts until the author’s death plus 70 years after; they don’t need to file for a copyright. Whatever it was used for has no relevance as that doesn’t affect the copyright status. Unless you can find the photographer to seek permission, it can’t be used. Corky 21:33, 8 November 2022 (UTC)

Plus, I’ll add if the copyright status is unknown (copyright or public domain), it probably shouldn’t be used. Corky 00:33, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

I disagree . But there's no clearly no point in continuing this discussion. Do what you want. Moving on. Billmckern (talk) 02:16, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

@Billmckern Copyright is a concept defined by law. Uploading non-free works here is a violation of both the law and Commons policy. That is something you should pay attention to, especially given the many warnings you have already received. Brianjd (talk) 10:03, 9 November 2022 (UTC)

•  Delete 1989 was the last year that you still had to register a copyright. If this is her as governor, it is copyrighted. If this is her as treasurer in 1975, it would be public domain. --RAN (talk) 01:15, 10 November 2022 (UTC)

  I do have proof (via email) that this image is her gubernatorial portrait, which was taken in 1994. The Kansas State Historical Society provided this information and can be sent to OTRS if need be to show it was taken in 1994. Corky 22:57, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

  @Corkythehornetfan Can you please send this to VRT and reply with the ticket number? Best, —‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 01:23, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

  Also, I note that the deleted file is a color version of this photo. —‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 01:26, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

  @Mdaniels5757: Yes, Ticket#: 2023030310000703. Thanks! Corky 02:13, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

  @Corkythehornetfan Replied to the email. —‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 03:14, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

•  Delete 1994 photo (confirmed, see ticket:2023030310000703), no free license, not in public domain until the earlier of 95 years after publication or 120 after creation. Known to be published in at latest 2010 (https://web.archive.org/web/20101217143359/http://kshs.org/kansapedia/joan-finney/12051), so undelete in 2106. —‍Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 16:17, 3 March 2023 (UTC)

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Deleted: per nomination and discussion. --Ellywa (talk) 21:39, 19 March 2023 (UTC)