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Archive August 2020
Bad name (my mistake) Ecritures (talk) 17:03, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: deleted empty cat. --P 1 9 9 ✉ 19:49, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
There was a logo here, I believe of a news agency or channel from India. I think this cat could better be titled in English. E4024 (talk) 02:43, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
- Where did the file go? Probably this can just be deleted if there's no longer any contents for it to hold - I only created it as it was a 'phantom' category (it had files in it, but didn't actually exist). Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 07:07, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
- To DR. Something that had to be done before. --E4024 (talk) 13:38, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
- URL? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 17:23, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
- To DR. Something that had to be done before. --E4024 (talk) 13:38, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
Done by Túrelio (talk · contributions · Statistics) as an empty category(non-admin closure) --Prahlad (talk to me/what I've done) 22:06, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
Peabody Institute already exists. Artaxerxes (talk) 11:19, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: simple category redirect. --P 1 9 9 ✉ 19:48, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
bad name: category already exists (my mistake) Danielle - Wikimedia NL/WGC (talk) 14:04, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 09:40, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
Accidently created, I transferred pictures to the better category, this should be deleted. Dosseman (talk) 09:24, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: Deleted empty cat. --P 1 9 9 ✉ 19:40, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Empty. Ask for suppression. Sammyday (talk) 10:10, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
- What is the hurry? There is a WP article; files may come. --E4024 (talk) 04:06, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
- There "was" a file, which has been suppressed. It was alone. So we don't have even a file, the category is useless - we can still recreated if we'll have a new file (I have very big doubts about it). Sammyday (talk) 20:25, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
Not deleted. Subject died in 1944. PD files will be available soon. No need for bureaucracy.--RZuo (talk) 22:22, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- The subject died in 1944, but there's no PD files of him. He's not an artist, he's a priest, and the only file in this category was a photo of Bernard Ferrand - not a photo from him. Sammyday (talk) 15:30, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
No apparent notability and no items in other projects. Article was deleted in the Spanish Wikipedia for being promotional. NoonIcarus (talk) 13:34, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
- Then you probably need to delete the 2 files in the category, while having 2 files might not be enough if the topic isn't notable its best to just seek deletion of the files first and if they're deleted then this will be deleted as empty. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:07, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Crouch, Swale: Roger that, thanks! I just started the multiple nomination for deletion (Deletion requests/Enrique Enn). I thought that the category should be discussed before the images, thanks for the advise! --NoonIcarus (talk) 13:14, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Crouch, Swale: The images have been deleted and the category is now empty. --NoonIcarus (talk) 09:10, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
- @NoonIcarus: I've tagged it for speedy deletion. Crouch, Swale (talk) 08:44, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
The result was deleted as empty with no prejudice against re creation if files are uploaded compliant with our project scope. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:02, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
Redundant category. All contents moved to the most concise category, Category:Hulo Pasig River Ferry Station. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 02:43, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thanks for your visit and messages; it is very gloomy and funeral smell here in COVID Philippines emerging as Epi center of SE Asia Pandemic amid seeming recession of economy and dire poverty; it is very sad that I could not anymore travel to La Union and Ilocos or CALABARZON due to this Global scattered annihilation which even humbled the Superpowers; and I and Commons now value my tons of photos preserving History of Luzon landmarks; very sincerely Judgefloro (talk) 12:59, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: simiple category redirect. --P 1 9 9 ✉ 14:06, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
Redundant category. All contents moved to Category:Municipio de San Fernando, which follows the title of the subject's enwiki article and is Wikidata-linked. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 12:30, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
- Disagree. Redirect should be the other way around: we use English here for Category names. --P 1 9 9 ✉ 19:45, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
- @P199: in this case, I'll try to fix this. Then after fixing, I will withdraw this nom. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 02:42, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
- Fixed all relevant subcategories and modified Wikidata item to point to the English category. Also reverted back the file's categories to their original categories. Now withdrawing my nom. JWilz12345 (Talk|Contrib's.) 02:51, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: resolved. --P 1 9 9 ✉ 18:28, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
Only 1 file DannyS712 (talk) 17:28, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
- Done Deleted Gbawden (talk) 09:58, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
This category sohould be deleted as there is already a category called 'Female handball players from Croatia' to where I have moved all related subcategories. Artamart (talk) 17:33, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: per request. --Marcus Cyron (talk) 18:02, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
There is no freedom of panorama in the US for sculpture. all of these works were created after 1925 so they are still under copyright Found5dollar (talk) 21:42, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. With no photos allowed of sculptures, a category for them is not needed. Binksternet (talk) 22:20, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
- This should be discussed after the contents are deleted. As long as there are contents, it's valid to have the category. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:10, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
KEPT. you can definitely take a photo of the park avoiding all the sculptures.--RZuo (talk) 23:03, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Empty category Carnby (talk) 08:36, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
- pas de problème, j'ai suivi 1 lien rouge (pour 1 fois je m'intéressais au foot :D)
- no problem, I followed 1 red link (for 1 time I was interested in football :D)
- --Barbe-sauvage (talk) 14:57, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
KEPT. easy enough to get a photo of a celebrity(!) born in 1986(!). example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR_nqLlgkoE . Stop bureaucracy plz!--RZuo (talk) 23:18, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- Reopened @RZuo: is it really? And the problem is not to get a photo (or any file) but to get a photo compatible with Commons (which is not the same thing at all). Cheers, VIGNERON (talk) 13:46, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
Property for Sale 87.153.118.152 20:16, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
Not done: Nonsense, nothing to do. --Achim (talk) 20:53, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
Speedy deletion - typo in name Amousey (talk) 17:10, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
Closing: category was deleted. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:23, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
incorrect name. Created category:Files by User:Sâmia Bomfim. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 03:01, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
Deleted. Taivo (talk) 12:45, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
Please delete this categoy. I made a typo דוג'רית (talk) 13:16, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: Deleted as per nom. --rimshottalk 22:32, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
CONVERSION OF GROUND INTO POTABLE WATER SIVAPRAKASAM S M (talk) 17:28, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
Not done: Nothing to do. --Achim (talk) 18:34, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
cross-wiki spam. Bodhisattwa (talk) 07:18, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Bodhisattwa: Next time tag it for speedy deletion as an empty cat
- Done Deleted Gbawden (talk) 11:12, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
Audio amp stereo wiring 116.250.159.57 15:55, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
Not done: Nothing to do. --Achim (talk) 17:03, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
unschematic, isolated and unlinked category tree. Whole cat tree should be deleted. Herzi Pinki (talk) 18:57, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
Delete It fails to make any justification for its existence by being empty. Rodhullandemu (talk) 19:20, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
- it was me who removed 10 files from the leaf category. e.g. File:Hollenthon - Schabauer-Kapelle (02).jpg, but now it is empty. --Herzi Pinki (talk) 20:05, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
- Good for you. It is always useful to empty nonsense cats. Delete. --E4024 (talk) 20:09, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
- it was me who removed 10 files from the leaf category. e.g. File:Hollenthon - Schabauer-Kapelle (02).jpg, but now it is empty. --Herzi Pinki (talk) 20:05, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
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- Empty, marked for speedy deletion. Closing. --E4024 (talk) 15:10, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
wrong name, correct name is the existing category Category:Streets in Sinalunga LigaDue (talk) 20:34, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
- Done --E4024 (talk) 16:53, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
wrong name Ecummenic (talk) 01:01, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
- Then it should be deleted. --E4024 (talk) 15:08, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 19:33, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
The title should have "Bursa" before the rest of the text as there is a same-named museum in Istanbul (and maybe in other towns). Dosseman (talk) 11:18, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Dosseman: we have Category:Turkish and Islamic Arts Museum (in Istanbul). So this one should be named to "Turkish and Islamic Arts Museum in Bursa"?--Estopedist1 (talk) 05:34, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Estopedist1: Yes, I think that is the best. I myself use a places name first, but see the logic (also for searches) to place that last, as "in ...". Could you do the renaming, I do not have the knowledge to do so. By the wayː I copied your "ping" command, but do not quite know where to find instructions on its use (I found some pages, but with so much texts, I shudder). In shortː did I do it right, this time? Dosseman (talk) 08:37, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Dosseman: yes, you pinged correctly. Instructions are here: {{Ping}}. I also prefer the name "Bursa Turkish and Islamic Arts Museum", but the phrase "Bursa Turkish and ..." seems a bit awkward?--Estopedist1 (talk) 09:01, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Estopedist1: Thanks for instructions and agreement. I take it the name will be as suggested, "Turkish and Islamic Arts Museum in Bursa", which will be fine. I have started to use Turkish as a service to Turkish speakers, but do prefer the English name, as that's the language I use most on the web. For as far as I'm concerned, the discussion can be closed, waiting for a renaming. Dosseman (talk) 09:16, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Dosseman: now, we have to wait 2 weeks. And if no objections during this period, then renaming of this category and its subcategories can be done--Estopedist1 (talk) 11:57, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Estopedist1: I'm a patient man, the wait is no problem. I'm glad you helped me get through this process, I learned some things. I may get back to you if I run into some other problem. Bye. Dosseman (talk) 17:43, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Dosseman: , if you wish to continue making cat titles in Turkish, please ask help from a native speaker, for example User:Gargarapalvin, as your Turkish is not yet at the level to do what you nobly want to do. I mean I appreciate that you want to use the original Turkish names. As regards this title, of course firstly the capitalization must be corrected, as well as the word "İslam" (not Islam, that reminds me of a köfte variety in Turkish cuisine :). I prefer not to translate proper names, just as our colleagues from Portuguese speaking countries, and with your permission I will move this cat to "Category:Bursa Türk ve İslam Eserleri Müzesi". Of course we can also make an RD in English, with the exact translation of the original museum name. Thanks. --E4024 (talk) 20:45, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- @E4024: I see your points. I myself will generally try and use English category names, as indeed my Turkish needs improving. There is an element of laziness too: introducing Turkish letters can be hell, I often have to switch in Word to “insert” mode, then finding the proper letter. A word with three or more Turkish letters costs me a minute extra. I did not understand your reference to a kind of köfte, could you explain? Being Dutch and mainly reading English “Islam” without a dot on the “I” looks quite natural, so I tend to use that in Turkish also. As for not translating proper names, I tend to prefer to use the English translations, as those are the ones I find in the websites I check, the travel guides I use, and on my own site. Often there is an entry in the English Wikipedia in that language (the Istanbul one for instance is “Museum of Turkish and Islamic Arts”), though I find the search engine of the Wikipedia is excellent, so one will find “Türk ve İslam Eserleri Müzesi” too. I have a girlfriend in Istanbul who teaches English and did translations on my site, whom I can ask for advice, so I’ll not contact Gargarapalvin. It may be a missed opportunity, as I saw some picture by this person, that are well-done and show a similar eye for detail as I claim to have. I’m in two minds now because I’m about to create an Edirne Türk ve İslam Eserleri Müzesi category, using pictures I have had on a so-named category for years on my site (curiously using the dotted i). I’ll use the Turkish. Dosseman (talk) 08:33, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
- A couple of things more: Dosseman I appreciate with all my frankness your efforts to show the cultural heritage of Turkey to the world, many thanks. However you have a difficulty in either learning our categorization principles or in obeying them. For example the "capitalization" issue is also present in the subcats and in several other cats that you initiated (of which in the past I corrected some). Please when the cat name is about a monument, museum, school etc simply use all capitals and do not use a capital for "pottery" as you did in one of the subcats. Using Turkish letters is easier than you imagine. Simply look above in this disscussion, while editing. There is a chamber for "Special characters". Choose "Latin" and you wil find ı, İ, ö, ü, ğ etc. I am making the move I announced above. Thanks. E4024 (talk) 15:37, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
- Sorry, I am moving it to "Category:Bursa Türk İslam Eserleri Müzesi" because that is the formal name; i.e. not "Turkish and Islamic" but "Turkish Islamic". E4024 (talk) 15:42, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
- Done - and closed. E4024 (talk) 01:09, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
This category and its subcategories that have phrase "First Estonian Republic" in title should be renamed/merged. This is because given phrase is discouraged in Estonian historiography as the republic of that time is generally considered the same as current one (relates to the state continuity of the Baltic states). Given phrase is seldom used, but it denotes an entity that is generally considered not to exist.
This category title is supposed to refer to historical period which already has Category:History of Estonia (1918–1940) dedicated to it. So, following this more adequate example, categories could be reanmed like this: "Category:Military officers of the First Estonian Republic" → "Military officers of Estonia (1918–1940)".
Those a few categories with inadequate titles were created recently and for a little while they were already fixed, too. Unfortunately the initial fix was reverted for an unknown reason, despite disagreement by multiple users (including an admin) in COM:AN. Eventually these titles need to be corrected. So for now I'm documenting this issue here in form of a CfD entry. 2001:7D0:81F7:B580:FE:F1D1:892D:A9C3 09:31, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
Comment"First Estonian Republic" does exist like in shown in the Estonian Museum of Architecture, the EU website, Union of Free Evangelical and Baptist Churches of Estonia and the Eesti Rahvusringhääling (ERR) – Estonian Public Broadcasting twice.
- And as others have commented in several foruns, the person(s) that is hoping almost daily from IP to other IP since at least 2017, always refusing to login and so i refuse to answer to someone that refuses to have a minimum of transparent accountability of his editions. Tm (talk) 19:40, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Taivo, Pikne, and Tm: what we do with this? Phrase "First Estonian Republic" is like a zombie. Solution per anonym. And category:First Estonian Republic to be stayed as a redirect or to be deleted? I am wondering that enwiki hasn't discussed it--Estopedist1 (talk) 05:27, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
Redirected. Taivo (talk) 07:36, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
This is a subcat of Category:Markets in Florence and has only a small street food stall image in it. Is there a market in Florence called "Tripe seller"? Sounds strange. E4024 (talk) 02:56, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
Deleted. Taivo (talk) 12:28, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
magic sena 200.180.114.162 22:17, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
Not done: No reason for discussion given. --rimshottalk 22:57, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
Category:Suicide in Brazil already exists Trade (talk) 09:34, 12 August 2020 (UTC)
- Closed. Already made an RD. --E4024 (talk) 00:30, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
Misspelling of Category:Puteri Indonesia Pariwisata. May want to make a category redirect, or just delete, whatever closing administrator prefers. GRuban (talk) 16:07, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: Deleted as per nom. This has only existed for a few days, there's no need to keep the misspelling. --rimshottalk 23:12, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
adam weisweiler commode 2601:703:0:38F0:DD22:C625:8166:987E 04:10, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
Not done: Accidental creation. --rimshottalk 23:23, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
I added "uncategorized categories" to this red cat both to attract attention of those who would like to categorize it and also to ask a few things about "trolleys". Frankly when I think of trolleys I yearn for the trolley buses some of us were able to use in city transport in Turkey. I was looking around and saw a few things. I wanted to use "Category:Trolleybus lines" for the overhead electricity lines but I saw that it was an RD to Category:Trolleybus routes. I am sure many people take "line" as "wire". Maybe that RD should go to "Category:Trolleybus overhead lines", as you see in the end it was about "lines". If I may abuse your time a bit more another question: I had added Category:Candy trolley to the File:Badem sekeri.jpg. The cat is still red (like this one which has been red for a long time) because with my poor English I hesitated to create that cat. Is that a "candy trolley"? How can we categorize that... sort of vehicle? I am sorry if I could not keep the issue within the limits of "Category:Trolleys. Thanks for your patience and help. E4024 (talk) 02:26, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
- This page should become a disambiguation page. The following entries could be on it:
- --Auntof6 (talk) 03:01, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
- To which one of those cats will we put the two files now in this cat, Auntof6? E4024 (talk) 03:06, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- Do you mean for the thing that the bomb is sitting on? I wouldn't put it in any of the cats lited above. I would put it in Category:Trailers or a subcat of that. Of course, that is from my perspective as a speaker of American English. Maybe they're called trolleys in British English, or maybe even in the vocabulary of aircraft or bombs or something, but, if so, I'm not familiar with that use. --Auntof6 (talk) 04:52, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- To which one of those cats will we put the two files now in this cat, Auntof6? E4024 (talk) 03:06, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: converted to disambig. --JuTa 23:13, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
Do we need a cat with a different script? E4024 (talk) 00:44, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: renamed to Category:Byzovo (Tyumen region). --JuTa 23:20, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
Hello, My request concerns the "Category:Lady Buddha(Da Nang)". It seems that it should be deleted because Quan The Am, or Quan Am, Guanyin, Kannon, Avalokisteshvara, is a female Bodhisattva, not a Bouddha. Replacing with "Lady Bodhisattva" would not be better from a Buddhist point of view. The 9 files attached to this category would have to be transferred to the 2 categories "Category:Ling Ung Pagoda" and "Statues of Quan Am in Viet Nam". I could make these transfers, but I prefer to ask your help because it is also a question of deleting an existing category (any deletion must be justified, and besides, you can do everything in one operation, unlike me). I hope for your agreement. Many thanks in advance for your help.--Contributeur2019 (talk) 09:48, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- Copied from Helpdesk [1]. Category can be redirected to a better name, can you suggest what it should be (rather than what is should not?). (You can talk about and link to a category by adding a colon (:) after the brackets and before the word "Category" so it looks like this: [[:Category:Lady Buddha (Da Nang)]]) -- Deadstar (msg) 10:55, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- Hello Contributeur2019. Could we name the category « Avalokiteshvara statue (Da Nang) » or « Quan Am statue (Da Nang) » or « Quan The Am statue (Da Nang) » ? -- Christophe95 (d) 12:08, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- Hello Deadstar!
- I think renaming the category "Quan The Am statue (Da Nang) " would be better. Sorry for not responding earlier. Tks for yr help.Contributeur2019 (talk) 15:44, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- Hi @Contributeur2019 and Christophe95: and thank you for responding. I'm happy to change the category to Category:Quan The Am statue (Da Nang), and as I don't think this is a controversial move, I'll do that now. If someone disagrees with this move, please contact me or just go ahead and revert. -- Deadstar (msg) 16:48, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- Hello Contributeur2019. Could we name the category « Avalokiteshvara statue (Da Nang) » or « Quan Am statue (Da Nang) » or « Quan The Am statue (Da Nang) » ? -- Christophe95 (d) 12:08, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
Category moved per above, redirect remains. -- Deadstar (msg) 16:48, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- Thank you. Christophe95 (talk) 19:24, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
Unused and empty category Ecummenic (talk) 21:49, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
Deleted. per nom. -- Common Good (talk) 07:53, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
Uncategorized and broken category redirect. Leonel Небојша Sohns 08:01, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
Close - category was deleted. --Auntof6 (talk) 02:47, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
gays teen boys 2A01:E0A:28B:4710:98BA:5DB7:17F:CCA4 14:03, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
Non administrator closure, but as can be seen in the "rationale" that opened this category discussion, nothing will be lost to have this closed as nonsense. -Tm (talk) 14:11, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
Misspelt name and superfluous Broichmore (talk) 18:28, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 14:20, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
Merge into Category:Pavlovna (patronym) and delete as incorrect disambiguation. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 09:20, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
- Hmm, any cat in Category:Patronymics are named "... (given name)" and Category:Pavlovna (patronym) is empty due to {{Wikidata Infobox}}. ->
Keep. --JuTa 11:02, 7 August 2020 (UTC) - Commnt: Th catgoy s no locatd nd Category:Pavlovna (patronymic), s Special:PermanentLink/462643704#Patronyms are not given names fo fnc. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 17:25, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Done: moved by the requestor. --JuTa 18:58, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
- I don't get this. There's still Category:Pavlovna (patronym). 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 19:41, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
- And? That was not requested here. --JuTa 20:24, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
- Now I see... fixed. --JuTa 20:29, 18 September 2020 (UTC)
Rename to Category:Files from governadoreduardocampos Flickr stream for consistency with other subcategories of Category:Flickr streams. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 11:24, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
Support as author. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 13:16, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
Moved. -- CptViraj (talk) 09:25, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
We also have Category:African American history of South Carolina, both opened by the same user... BTW please also see similar problems with other "African American history" cats for various US states. E4024 (talk) 17:35, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
- I'm in favor of deleting it. I am in the process of checking the other US states to have "of" instead of "in". Thanks, Krok6kola (talk) 17:47, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
Merged by A.Savin. -- CptViraj (talk) 09:36, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
Seems to include images from different settlements with the same name B. Jankuloski (talk) 23:38, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
- Yes w:Banja is a DAB so so should this. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:19, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
- I moved the Albanian images to Category:Lake Banja --Albinfo (talk) 10:18, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
- Moved the other images to places in Kosovo and to Category:Banja Monastery. --Albinfo (talk) 10:44, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
Done.--RZuo (talk) 10:58, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
duplicate of Category:James Oliver Nick Number (talk) 05:42, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- James Oliver is ambiguous, see w:James Oliver, convert Category:James Oliver into a DAB instead. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:12, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: Category:James Oliver moved to Category:James Oliver (inventor) and disambiguation page created. --jdx Re: 07:21, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
user:Bouzinac suggests to merge this category with category:Denarius. Is it correct? Estopedist1 (talk) 06:11, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
Absolutly not:
- Denarius is a coin minted in Rom from 211 B.C.
- Denaro was minted in Italy from ix century of modern era by a lot of different auctorities. --Carlomorino (talk) 07:01, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
Disagree NO ! The word and the root is the same, but these are names for very different coins for period or location. Like "Fiorino" and "Florin". DenghiùComm (talk) 07:09, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
Not done: There are two different coins. No merge possible. Ruthven (msg) 16:03, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
I think this should be renamed to Category:1 person for grammar reasons (can keep the old name as a redirect I guess). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 08:22, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
- Agreed. 1 is singular. Josh (talk) 12:36, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
@Piotrus: Closed (no objections; move to Category:1 person) Josh (talk) 17:12, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
Rename to Files from Eddie Maloney Flickr stream per other categories in Category:Flickr streams. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 11:04, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
- Support as author. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 13:13, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 00:13, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Unused and empty category Ecummenic (talk) 04:35, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 00:19, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Unused and empty category Ecummenic (talk) 04:35, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 00:19, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Unused and empty category Ecummenic (talk) 04:36, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 00:19, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Unused and empty category nominated for deletion Ecummenic (talk) 04:37, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 00:20, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Unused and empty category nominated for deletion Ecummenic (talk) 04:37, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 00:20, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Unused and empty category nominated for deletion Ecummenic (talk) 04:37, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 00:20, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Unused and empty category nominated for deletion Ecummenic (talk) 04:37, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 00:20, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Unused and empty category nominated for deletion Ecummenic (talk) 04:37, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 00:20, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Unused and empty category nominated for deletion Ecummenic (talk) 04:38, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 00:21, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Unused and empty category nominated for deletion Ecummenic (talk) 04:38, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 00:21, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Unused and empty category nominated for deletion Ecummenic (talk) 04:38, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 00:21, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Unused and empty category nominated for deletion Ecummenic (talk) 04:38, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 00:21, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Unused and empty category nominated for deletion Ecummenic (talk) 04:39, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 00:21, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Unused and empty category nominated for deletion Ecummenic (talk) 04:39, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 00:21, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Empty, mistakenly used by one editor or at most two over many, many years. Adam37 (talk) 14:56, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. Category is not empty now, and at least one item in it, Category:Ferries across the River Thames, is valid. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:11, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Not done: per discussion. --ƏXPLICIT 00:22, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
All the files have been deleted under Commons:Deletion_requests/Files_in_Category:Videos by PoTools. It will be a while for these videos to become PD and be available to reupload. ℺ Gone Postal (〠 ✉ • ✍ ⏿) 17:34, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 00:23, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
self promotional spam Trade (talk) 11:30, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 00:25, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
We really do not need this cat and its subcats. Look at Turkey, a country with half a million soldiers is represented with two or three rankless youngsters. Of course one may claim that US soldiers in Cuba are not soldiers of Cuba but in the end they live within their sovereign base and I do not see the Cubans ring their bell to ask taxes or anything. I mean having separate cats for soldiers "of" and soldiers "in" is not really necessary. Look at the so few subcats and really they do not add anything. Let us concentrate on what we have got in soldiers (military people) of all countries and close this unnecessary parallel. E4024 (talk) 00:50, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- Keep This one is just a simple subcategory of Category:People by country of location, which can be filled progressively by people who want to concentrate on that. Just as "we" have categories of brides, refugees, dancers, students or people reading somewhere. Commons is a work in progress. Strakhov (talk) 04:00, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. Don't see any problem with this category. Sorting by location is perfectly in commons scope. -- Geagea (talk) 11:43, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
Not done: per discussion. --ƏXPLICIT 00:26, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
This category makes no sense. Leonel Sohns (talk) 14:34, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete. Currently, also empty--Estopedist1 (talk) 05:06, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
Makes no sense because Category:Night is also for images of night. --Leonel Небојша Sohns 08:05, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. --ƏXPLICIT 00:29, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Created cat, existed already, please remove Susanna Ånäs (Susannaanas) (talk) 16:18, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: author request. --ƏXPLICIT 00:30, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
Do we really need this RD? These RDs (this kind of RDs) only cause bad categorization; they do not help anything. E4024 (talk) 03:03, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
- I think we do, while they do increase the chances of people putting things in them, the category is at this title on Wikipedia and I think it would cause confusion if this was deleted. Crouch, Swale (talk) 11:36, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
- @E4024 and Crouch, Swale: solution is incorrect because "by name" means that only categories should be there. I suggest that this to be redirected to category:People--Estopedist1 (talk) 04:53, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
- Category:People is for all people, Category:Living persons by name is only for living people which seems to be the same as w:Category:Living people. Crouch, Swale (talk) 09:39, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- @E4024 and Crouch, Swale: solution is incorrect because "by name" means that only categories should be there. I suggest that this to be redirected to category:People--Estopedist1 (talk) 04:53, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: deleted as a broken redirect. --ƏXPLICIT 11:25, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
The category has no evident encyclopedic purpose. It is a self promoting category. 95.249.122.242 15:16, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- I agree. Blow it up. --E4024 (talk) 15:57, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- I am Ulf Larsen, the person that the category cover. It was created by FredWalsh. If this category should be kept or not, is perhaps connected to whether the content should be kept. Regarding that, I would like to repeat my previous statement in a discussion whether one of the pictures should be deleted.I am not going to argue for keep or delete, as I leave it up to the community here on Wikimedia Commons to decide if they shall be kept or not. Regarding consent, the various models I have paid to be with me in amateur porn has all agreed to have the pics and videos uploaded by me on the Internet. Regarding my former girlfriend, I have just a few days ago specifically asked her if she agreed to have the category "Prostitutes and customers", and she was fine with that. Regarding amateur porn in general, I do of course respect it if a decision is made to remove such media from Wikimedia Commons, but I believe then that one would have to discuss professional pornography. And if both of them are unfit for presentation here, what about other media that may be disturbing for some viewer (nude people, dead people, pictures of war). I have been contributing to Wikipedia since 2004, and I will continue to contribute, regardless if some or all of my amateur pornographic pictures are removed. As an exhibitionist, amateur porn model I do however believe that this also is a part of what should be of interest for a project that: "is a media file repository making available public domain and freely-licensed educational media content (images, sound and video clips) to everyone, in their own language." - a direct quote from Commons:Welcome.Regarding the statement from user 95.249.122.242 that "It is a self promoting category." I agree, as it does indeed promote me as exhibitionist and amateur porn model. But again, I did not create it myself. We have a couple of categories here of other individuals that also may be labeled as self promoting (various politicians, actors etc.), so that alone as an argument should not be sufficient for deleting this category. Ulflarsen (talk) 11:26, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
- Keep So long as these images (or some of them) remain on Commons, a category that unites them, based on the subject depicted, is both in-scope and appropriate. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 23:16, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. The category accurately reflects a significant characteristic of the images contained therein. BD2412 T 15:12, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- Keep, It's something similar to the large amounts of "Uploads by User:XXX" categories but in this case contain the subject. In fact categories specific to Wikimedians are extremely common, just look any person photographed at a Wikimania or any Wikimedia chapter organisation. The images in this category were uploaded with an educational value in mind by a veteran Wikipedian, it's clearly not meant to be promotional and even if it was, it's clearly a useful metric for the organisation of these images. --Donald Trung 『徵國單』 (No Fake News 💬) (WikiProject Numismatics 💴) (Articles 📚) 20:48, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- Keep I created this category because it appeared logical to group these files. I believe this nomination is an attempt to circumvent the repeated and unsuccessful attempts by anonymous editors to get the files deleted. What is being shown in these files is human sexuality, which is a legitimate educational topic. Just because it involves nudity, it seems to get these puritans who think it should not be on Commons. FredWalsh (talk) 21:32, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
- Keep. Commons:Not censored! How could we get files to depicting the topics if creators don't release them as a free license compatible with Wikimedia Commons? Crazy hat royal (talk) 14:39, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
- Never worry for lack of contributors in this area; some even pay models only with the aim of improving our Commons. Take care. E4024 (talk) 15:14, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
- Regarding the lack of contributors and that models are paid. Judging by the category Category:Amateur pornography it does seem to be a lack of contributors & content. Before I uploaded some of my pics there were hardly any there. Regarding pay, I did pay the various girls that I have made amateur porn together with. I can however not see that this fact should disqualify the pictures from being uploaded here, as long as the picture in itself is of interest for Wikimedia Commons. Ulflarsen (talk) 15:16, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- Never worry for lack of contributors in this area; some even pay models only with the aim of improving our Commons. Take care. E4024 (talk) 15:14, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
- My ex-girlfriend have now sent an email to permissions-commons@wikimedia.org stating that she support the uploading and keeping of these and other files of her and me in amateur porn. It seems to me that as for the deletion regarding that she is not aware of, or support the upload, now has been settled, and can not be used as a reason for deletion. This applies to all the pictures listed which mentions "ex-girlfriend" in the filename. Ulflarsen (talk) 14:48, 25 October 2020 (UTC)
- Delete, and of course also the images contained. No encyclopedic purpose, self-promotional ("exhibitionist") content. --Reinhard Kraasch (talk) 13:38, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
- Keep Commons:Not censored. There are categories to other photos by author. Also all deletion requests opened on this images have been kept until now. Tm (talk) 12:41, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
- It is now some three months since this category was marked for deletion. As a volunteer to Wikipedia I do of course understand that various issues takes time, but it would be good if this matter could be solved, one way or the other. Ulflarsen (talk) 09:22, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
Kept: Consensus is to keep. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 18:07, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
What is the difference between Category:Couchette cars and Category:Sleeping cars (rail transport)? JopkeB (talk) 16:28, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
- There is a big difference:
- Sleeping cars are for normal sleeping, and each it compartment consist usually of 1-2 place for sleeping (and you usually have a normal pillow, sheets and a duvet)
- Couchette cars are mainly for lying down, and each it compartment consist usually of 6 place for lying, although, of course, no one forbids sleeping either (and you usually have a headrest, a blanket, bedding and a sheet - usually disposable made of non-woven fabric)
- Electron ツ ➧☎ 16:48, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
- Is that so? I've heard that, but also understood that the main difference (de facto, whatever the historic use) is that the couchette sleeps more people, in Central Europe normally six instead of the one to three in sleeper cabins. Last time I used a couchette, long ago, I thought we'd bought tickets according to the "mainly lying down" definition, but I could not distinguish the "place for lying down" from a bed. I wonder what the beds in a sleeper car are like. –LPfi (talk) 09:07, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- The sleeping compartment also usually has a small table (and a small sink underneath it), a small recess for the wardrobe, etc. (they are not in the couchette). There is no pillows but headrest only in a couchette. Next difference is that sleeping cars haven't got windows between a compartment and a car corridor. Couchette cars have usually wide windows between a compartment and a car corridor as it is in others sitting compartments. Usually, during a day a couchette car compartment can be converted easyly by passangers to a sitting compartment for 6 people (as a normal 2-nd class car compartment). It usually not possible in a typical slipping compartment. And of course couchettes are much cheaper than sleeping cars... Electron ツ ➧☎ 11:58, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- Is that so? I've heard that, but also understood that the main difference (de facto, whatever the historic use) is that the couchette sleeps more people, in Central Europe normally six instead of the one to three in sleeper cabins. Last time I used a couchette, long ago, I thought we'd bought tickets according to the "mainly lying down" definition, but I could not distinguish the "place for lying down" from a bed. I wonder what the beds in a sleeper car are like. –LPfi (talk) 09:07, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- In Turkey we also have these two different classes in sleeping trains: "Kuşetli" (couchette) and "Yataklı" vagon. The former is not only sort of uncomfortable but also you have to share a small compartment with three other people. The latter one ("yataklı" means "with a bed" in Turkish) is all for you. You can sit, stand and "walk" (a bit :) freely. In the "kuşetli" you have the task of getting to sleep everybody at the same time and pray that none snores. As a student I had to try that "kuşetli" ordeal once. ("Yataklı" was only in my dreams. :) Afterwards only "seat travel"... E4024 (talk) 02:31, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
Dear @Electron, LPfi, and E4024: Thank you all for your information and comment. I'll add definitions to both categories to make clear the differences, and close this discussion. JopkeB (talk) 09:19, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
Conclusion:
- Sleeping cars are for normal sleeping, and each compartment consists usually of 1-2 place for sleeping. A sleeping car usually has a small table (and a small sink underneath it), a small recess for the wardrobe.
- Couchette cars are mainly for lying down, each compartment consists usually of 4-6 places for lying or sleeping. During daytime a couchette car compartment can be converted easily by passengers to a sitting compartment for 6 people. Couchettes are much cheaper than sleeping cars.
So couchette cars are for more people than sleeping cars; sleeping cars offer more comfort.
I'll add definitions to both categories to make clear the differences. JopkeB (talk) 09:26, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
Rename to correct spelling Category:22° halo, similarly to Category:46° halo. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:29, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
- Agree, and similarly for subcat and gallery. – BMacZero (🗩) 18:17, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
No objections, moved. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 01:34, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
About this and the mother cat "Category:Music pedagogues: I think the use of "educator" in English and "pedagog" in some other countries creates a confusion (easy to solve, with some help from EN:WP) in maintaining parallel cats here in Commons and various WPs. For example: In Catalan Wikipedia we have "Categoria:Pedagogs musicals" which makes interwiki with the EN:WP's "Category:Music educators". The use of both "pedagogue" and "educator" in Commons to make a distinction between the two concepts (which is quite arbitrary) creates the wider problem. We need only "educators" here, as the basis for Commons is English. In English WP the only place where that concept is used is "Category:Music pedagogues by instrument" in which the word can be easily changed to educators. (BTW here we have a Category:Music pedagogues by instrument linked to that EN:WP cat but which funnily only has vocalists. I mean no string, wind, brass whatsoever instruments. :) Without entering into sophisticated terminology discussions, some problems in Commons -"probably" like this one, only "probably"- that people from non-English countries (especially Latin languages) tend to create cats for the terms they use in their own languages without searching enough for the English equivalent. I also became a part of this confusion and created, an hour ago, "Category:Music pedagogues from Turkey" which I will move to "educators". E4024 (talk) 23:27, 4 August 2020 (UTC)
Closing: merged to "Category:Music educators". Andrei Romanenko (talk) 01:19, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
In these cases we simply use the city (or state in this specific case); the reference to Brazil in the cat title is totally out of convention. (The language used here is also very poor even for this non-native English speaker.) E4024 (talk) 01:50, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
- i agree with E4024. but decision pending Commons:Categories for discussion/2018/06/Category:São Paulo.--RZuo (talk) 08:35, 15 November 2020 (UTC)
deleted.--RZuo (talk) 12:20, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
empty cat, useful for ? LigaDue (talk) 21:14, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
I created this category in the hope that soon I would be able to take pictures, but that was not the case. If your stay could create problems, you can cancel it: I will recreate it at the moment. --Walter Giannetti (talk)
deleted as empty. -- Túrelio (talk) 08:32, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
Who is "BERNARD"? Is it normal that the name is written in capitals? Why is "Artists" in capital a? E4024 (talk) 21:23, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- This is a nonsense category tree made as a pet project by a new user who is not active anymore. Even formatted properly the categories have no actual use. I will recategorize all of the files and then we can get rid of the whole thing. Thanks Ruff tuff cream puff (talk) 02:05, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
Done: Deleted, empty, apparently the result of a well-meaning but ultimately not fruitful effort, c.f. Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems/Archive_59#L'artauprésent. --rimshottalk 20:13, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
I have a difficulty understanding this cat. If everything is alright (for you) please simply move it to a better-written title. E4024 (talk) 21:25, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: Deleted, empty, apparently the result of a well-meaning but ultimately not fruitful effort, c.f. Commons:Administrators'_noticeboard/User_problems/Archive_59#L'artauprésent. --rimshottalk 20:13, 8 February 2021 (UTC)
The subcategories of this should definitely be renamed to be more specific. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 12:55, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
- Can this discussion be closed? It has been empty for months Victuallers (talk) 10:59, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Victuallers I can rename all the categories to use "Women in Red social media banners" instead of "banners" if you wish. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 11:47, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- That should be OK but all the file names are important. Could you change the cat with "Sept" in it to "September"?
- I presume you have a tool that redirects all the files as well otherwise ... no thanks... and that you can revert if necessary. None of the filenames must change as they are all indexed elsewhere Victuallers (talk) 13:21, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Victuallers I am confused. We are talking about the names of the subcategories, right? 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 21:33, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
- @Victuallers I can rename all the categories to use "Women in Red social media banners" instead of "banners" if you wish. 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 11:47, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
I renamed all the subcategories as specified. – BMacZero (🗩) 03:50, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Propose deleting, because no criterion is indicated for determining whether a bust is one of the largest in the world. I moved several subcats out of this because they were for statues that were not busts. I moved them to Category:Colossal statues. I don't see a similar category for busts, so the remaining subcat could go to Category:Monumental objects. Auntof6 (talk) 04:05, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
Marked for deletion, only child was Category:Adiyogi Shiva bust. – BMacZero (🗩) 05:13, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
Due to the renewed COM:PDM, this maintenance category will no longer be used A1Cafel (talk) 07:22, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
Delete: per above King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 20:48, 28 July 2021 (UTC)
Incorrect category name. Church of Stanisław Bishop and Martyr, not Kostka! Abraham (talk) 09:38, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
Deleted. Taivo (talk) 22:28, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Category to be deleted because Empty category and Category name not in english. Tangopaso (talk) 19:55, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
Deleted. Taivo (talk) 22:27, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Many of these files are of scluptures in the United States which has no freedom of panorama. I am unsure exactly which ones should be deleted and which can remain so I have started a discussion here. Found5dollar (talk) 16:34, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
not category-for-discussion. Files deletion request. Discussion here Category talk:Love by Robert Indiana Estopedist1 (talk) 22:30, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Maybe this category can be deleted because it's quite specific and I don't see it serving a great purpose on here NeoMeesje (talk) 13:27, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
Done: per nomination. — billinghurst sDrewth 23:49, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
quelles sont les catégories d'aérodrome? 41.85.182.38 08:14, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
Unclear nomination, stale discussion Estopedist1 (talk) 22:34, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
empty cat, useful for ? LigaDue (talk) 21:15, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
I created this category in the hope that soon I would be able to take pictures, but that was not the case. If your stay could create problems, you can cancel it: I will recreate it at the moment. --Walter Giannetti (talk)
Done: per nomination. — billinghurst sDrewth 23:46, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
Category:People crossing the street and Category:Pedestrians crossing roads or streets should be merged. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 20:05, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
- I agree. I do not see any difference between these two categories. JopkeB (talk) 13:10, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
- Tuválkin, DanielPenfield, Mattes (and others!): What should be the name of the category that stays? Which of both categories should stay and which one should be merged into the other? JopkeB (talk) 06:16, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- Category:Pedestrians crossing roads or streets should be retained as it uses the plural. Please use a redirect to minimize the effort required to find the right category. -- DanielPenfield (talk) 10:54, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
- I agree that Category:Pedestrians crossing roads or streets is a better cat name. Also agree about the redirect, as routinely done. -- Tuválkin ✉ ✇ 12:04, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
There is a general agreement about:
- Category:People crossing the street and Category:Pedestrians crossing roads or streets should be merged
- Category:Pedestrians crossing roads or streets should stay and Category:People crossing the street should have a redirect.
Done --JopkeB (talk) 05:14, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
It had only one subcat (Category:Benzyl acetate). I see no reason for keeping this category, there is only one compound that can be correctly named as benzyl acetate. Wostr (talk) 18:06, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
Question Would Category:Anisyl acetate be another subcategory of the nominated cat? And α-methylbenzyl acetate seems like a notable compound that hasn't yet gotten a wikipedia/commons-files entry. On the other hand, is enough of an actual theme to merit the cat? DMacks (talk) 21:57, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
- I see no reason how anisyl acetate could be named 'benzyl acetate', maybe only as a colloquial name, not scientific, systematic name, not even semi-systematic. Wostr (talk) 23:15, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
- "Anisyl" is "p-methoxybenzyl" (and often abbreviated "PMB")...common term in some areas of study (google for "PMB ester"). It's an acetate at the benzylic position, therefore it is a benzyl acetate. It's not "benzyl acetate" (chemical itself) but it is "a benzyl acetate" (member of the "benzyl acetates" class). I just threw together en:anisyl acetate, and the first two database entries I found for its flavor properties use "4-methoxybenzyl acetate" as its main name. Note that I (still) don't see this as enough of a relevant unifying characteristic to merit a category for them. DMacks (talk) 03:54, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
- Can de deleted, as Wostr: there is only one compound that can be correctly named as benzyl acetate Regards JWBE (talk) 09:24, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Class vs parent-structure? In reply to User:JWBE and User:Wostr, consider:
- "Benzyl acetates as attractants for the male oriental fruit fly, Dacus dorsalis, and the male melon fly, Dacus cucurbitae" (PNAS 1986, doi:10.1073/pnas.83.6.1549)
- "Palladium Catalyzed Arylation and Benzylation of Nitroarenes Using Aryl Sulfonates and Benzyl Acetates" (Journal of Organic Chemistry 2017, doi:10.1021/acs.joc.7b00550)
- "Benzyl Acetates by Acetoxylation of Methylbenzenes using Peroxydisulfate as Oxidizing Agent" (Synthesis 1980, doi:10.1055/s-1980-29061)
- Class vs parent-structure? In reply to User:JWBE and User:Wostr, consider:
- Can de deleted, as Wostr: there is only one compound that can be correctly named as benzyl acetate Regards JWBE (talk) 09:24, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- "Anisyl" is "p-methoxybenzyl" (and often abbreviated "PMB")...common term in some areas of study (google for "PMB ester"). It's an acetate at the benzylic position, therefore it is a benzyl acetate. It's not "benzyl acetate" (chemical itself) but it is "a benzyl acetate" (member of the "benzyl acetates" class). I just threw together en:anisyl acetate, and the first two database entries I found for its flavor properties use "4-methoxybenzyl acetate" as its main name. Note that I (still) don't see this as enough of a relevant unifying characteristic to merit a category for them. DMacks (talk) 03:54, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
- I see no reason how anisyl acetate could be named 'benzyl acetate', maybe only as a colloquial name, not scientific, systematic name, not even semi-systematic. Wostr (talk) 23:15, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
- These are refs using this specific term to mean the class, demonstrating that this class is an encyclopediacally-defined topic of interest according to reliable sources and that is actually called by this name. It seems pretty standard that we have plural-name cats for a class of compounds (substituted derivatives of a parent). Category:Benzoate esters for example is not only "C6H5CO2R". Category:Fluoromethanes is the container for all CFxH4–x not just Category:Fluoromethane itself. Overthrowing the class/parent or plural naming pattern probably requires a wider discussion than just this one specific DR. DMacks (talk) 10:23, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- Putting everything in Category:Benzoate esters is a huge mistake, one that probably came from en.wiki messy, more thematic than hierarchical categorisation system (more like tags rather than categories). I don't think that en.wiki categorisation system should be reproduced anywhere, it has always been presented in my home wiki as a model that should not be followed. Just like in de.wiki and WD, there should be precise definitions of what specific category is about to be useful for users. Not everything that can be named like this in a few sources. Wostr (talk) 14:20, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
- These are refs using this specific term to mean the class, demonstrating that this class is an encyclopediacally-defined topic of interest according to reliable sources and that is actually called by this name. It seems pretty standard that we have plural-name cats for a class of compounds (substituted derivatives of a parent). Category:Benzoate esters for example is not only "C6H5CO2R". Category:Fluoromethanes is the container for all CFxH4–x not just Category:Fluoromethane itself. Overthrowing the class/parent or plural naming pattern probably requires a wider discussion than just this one specific DR. DMacks (talk) 10:23, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
Consensus has already been implemented. The category was emptied a long time ago. (non-admin closure) Marbletan (talk) 14:33, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
same as Category:Pilgrim's Oratory (Assisi) LigaDue (talk) 20:43, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
- Created this with the intent on loading images, then got distracted. Placed an image into the category.--Chris Light (talk) 19:33, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
stale discussion. The result was merge Estopedist1 (talk) 12:52, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Seems redundant with Category:Toilet signs. Can we make one of these a redirect to the other? Brainy J (talk) 15:25, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Brainy J: Generally, in many countries, the word "toilet" or its local equivalents is used and understood as a name for the room designated primarily for excretion (urination and defecation), while the word "bathroom" for the room designated primarily for washing (equipped with a sink, bathtub or shower). It is true that sometimes the two functions are merged into one room, and that in some dialects or regions the names may be interchangeable or merging with each other. But I think these are two clearly different concepts and functions which should be distinguished also in categorization. I'm not an expert in English dialectology, but i think, articles en:Toilet (room) and en:Bathroom are comprehensible enough to clarify and demonstrate this difference. However, maybe, some images are categorized incorrectly and their categorization may need to be corrected. --ŠJů (talk) 15:55, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
- I've removed the toilet signs, so that now there is only the child category Category:Shower signs. There may be actual bathroom signs, but I must say I've never seen any (as opposed to shower signs, which aren't uncommon). In any case, we don't have photographs of them. --rimshottalk 23:03, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
Not done: no consensus. --✗plicit 02:23, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
Problematic and old (over 3 weeks) requested move:
Nominator's (user:Yasu) rational: This category to be moved to category:Mount To (Hakone Mountains), because: ""Mount Tonomine" is a redundant term since mine means "mountains" in Japanese". Date: 2020-06-06 Estopedist1 (talk) 09:05, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
- Similar to Commons:Categories for discussion/2020/08/Category:Mount Ondake (Nagasaki). As I said there, category names should reflect how the object is commonly referred to, regardless of whether that "makes sense" grammatically. I find it very difficult to Google "Mount To", but "Mount Tonomine" is in use elsewhere and seems like the correct approach to me. – BMacZero (🗩) 18:44, 27 November 2020 (UTC)
Not done: per discussion. —Mdaniels5757 (talk • contribs) 12:33, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
One of the brothers is a somewhat active user of Commons. However, another brother is literally nobody. Why should we have two categories for each of them and one more for them together? Andrei Romanenko (talk) 00:08, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
- Увидел, что про братьев есть статья в викиреальности Братья Стояловы, оттуда и узнал, что они близнецы, и кто на фото, я не знаю, Братья Стояловы также на прозе.ру, надо обсуждать эту категорию с User:DENAMAX, судя по названию это профиль используют оба брата.--Den1980- (talk) 19:52, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
- Вдвоём они используют Викисклад для саморекламы или поодиночке — неважно. Важно только то, что для саморекламы эти ресурсы не предназначены. Andrei Romanenko (talk) 10:57, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- Андрей у вас паранойя, перестаньте уже страдать фигней, и фото я использую на своей странице, и тут нет никакого самопиара. Займитесь полезным вкладом. DENAMAX (talk) 20:56, 26 August 2020 (UTC) Максим Стоялов.
- Статистика подсказывает мне, что мой вклад на одном только Викискладе больше вашего ровно в 10 раз. В связи с этим вам не следовало бы указывать мне, каким именно вкладом мне лучше заняться. Ваших личных портретных фотографий я насчитал на Викискладе семь штук, несколько фотографий вместе с братом, под три десятка фотографий в жанре "я с кем-нибудь знаменитым". Никакой другой ценности, кроме как саморекламной, все эти снимки не представляют. Andrei Romanenko (talk) 01:11, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
- Андрей саморекламой может вы занимайтесь, как я еще раз повторяю не запрещено в своем личном аккаунте использовать фото, а знаю что у вас предвзятое мнение и вам не указывал что делать, а попросил заняться чем-то полезным, я здесь не за рекламой, и не надо всех судить по себе. И я делаю столько правок сколько читаю нужным, не красиво говорит что у вас правок больше, хвастовство здесь неуместно. Оставьте меня в покое и хватит меня преследовать. Пожалуйста. Всего хорошего и с уважением DENAMAX (talk) 18:34, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
- Статистика подсказывает мне, что мой вклад на одном только Викискладе больше вашего ровно в 10 раз. В связи с этим вам не следовало бы указывать мне, каким именно вкладом мне лучше заняться. Ваших личных портретных фотографий я насчитал на Викискладе семь штук, несколько фотографий вместе с братом, под три десятка фотографий в жанре "я с кем-нибудь знаменитым". Никакой другой ценности, кроме как саморекламной, все эти снимки не представляют. Andrei Romanenko (talk) 01:11, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
- Андрей у вас паранойя, перестаньте уже страдать фигней, и фото я использую на своей странице, и тут нет никакого самопиара. Займитесь полезным вкладом. DENAMAX (talk) 20:56, 26 August 2020 (UTC) Максим Стоялов.
- Вдвоём они используют Викисклад для саморекламы или поодиночке — неважно. Важно только то, что для саморекламы эти ресурсы не предназначены. Andrei Romanenko (talk) 10:57, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
Прошу не удалять фото, я их использую на своей личной странице. Аккаунт я использую. Один. Максим Стоялов DENAMAX (talk) 20:56, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- Also to be considered: Category:Denis Stoyalov - this person is neither notable nor contributor, why a separate category for him? Andrei Romanenko (talk) 23:51, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
Is noticeable. Moreover, I use for my personal page Является заметным. Тем более я использую для своей личной страницы DENAMAX (talk) 00:09, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- I would be fine with getting rid of all of the selfies, and the categories. Quakewoody (talk) 00:39, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- They are on my personal page. DENAMAX (talk) 08:54, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- Фотографии знаменитых людей полезны для Википедии, а насчет личных фотографий, то их загружать не запрещено. А насчёт фото достаточно посмотреть Category:Wikimedians of Ukraine by name, но конечно фото лучше обрезать.--Den1980- (talk) 01:13, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
- Если вы, коллега Den1980-, не только заглянете в категорию Category:Wikimedians of Ukraine by name, но и полюбопытствуете, что же за фотографии там лежат, то увидите, что там расписываются по отдельным участникам фотографии с викивстреч. И это совсем не то же самое, что просто залить на Викисклад несколько десятков снимков своих и своего родственника. Andrei Romanenko (talk) 09:30, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
- Добрый день! Не запрещено, заливать личные фотографии, тем более категории я не создавал. DENAMAX (talk) 09:36, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
- Если вы, коллега Den1980-, не только заглянете в категорию Category:Wikimedians of Ukraine by name, но и полюбопытствуете, что же за фотографии там лежат, то увидите, что там расписываются по отдельным участникам фотографии с викивстреч. И это совсем не то же самое, что просто залить на Викисклад несколько десятков снимков своих и своего родственника. Andrei Romanenko (talk) 09:30, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
stale discussion. I am unable to understand this Russian infomassive. But I suggest to delete this category and corresponding Wikidata entry Wikidata:Q97929341. Category:Denis Stoyalov and Category:Maxim Stoyalov are sufficient--Estopedist1 (talk) 11:07, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
No significant explanations why we should keep it. Deleted. Andrei Romanenko (talk) 17:07, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
Surely this should be Category:Afros, because each image here is an instance of a different individual with an Afro? Geo Swan (talk) 15:59, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
- Agreed: we seem to generally use plurals. DMBFFF (talk) 22:09, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
- stale discussion. @DMBFFF@Geo Swan: the nominated category seems to be about the hairstyle. And per parent Category:Hairstyles by name, we maybe should use singular Estopedist1 (talk) 11:10, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Closing without consensus, as a stale discussion. Please feel free to re-nominate if you think it's worthwhile. - Jmabel ! talk 20:02, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
See also: Category talk:Racetrack jet dryers. Problematic and old (over 3 weeks) requested move:
Nominator's (user:Royalbroil) rational: To be moved to category:Dryers of Racing Circuits, because: "there are other dryers than jet dryers, such as File:Track Dryer Road America 2013 Scott 160.jpg 2) racing circuits is the name of the parent category". Date: 2020-05-25 Estopedist1 (talk) 08:55, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
Not done: No consensus for change. --The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 07:11, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
Problematic and old (over 3 weeks) requested move:
Nominator's (user:ŠJů) rational: This category to be moved to category:Mandelbrot sets by map, because: "better name". Date: 2020-04-11 Estopedist1 (talk) 11:30, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
- The proposed new name seems to imply that it may contain the standard Mandelbrot set that everyone knows, which doesn't work since this is supposed to be a subcat of Category:Mandelbrot sets, not the other way 'round. (Also note that ŠJů was not the original nominator but was actually arguing against the proposed rename. Adam majewski is the person who originally made the proposal.) - dcljr (talk) 00:38, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
- Maybe Mandelbrot sets by map shoudl contain standard Mandelbrot set ( for complex quadratic polynomial) and Mandelbrot set for othem maps ? --Adam majewski (talk) 09:23, 18 April 2021 (UTC)
Not done: No consensus for a change. --The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 07:11, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
35mm film used to be extremely popular and common. I have never heard of 135mm film. If this was not a typo, and 135 mm film really existed, there is no way all these subcategories for 35mm film belong here. Geo Swan (talk) 17:27, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
- Okay, google tells me 135 film cartridges held 35 mm film, and were used in entry level cameras like the Kodak instamatic. So Category:135 film cameras should be a subcategory of Category:35 mm film cameras and should only include cameras that used this cartridge system.
- My family owned an instamatic, 50 years ago. It used a fixed focus lense. Loading film into a regular 35 mm film camera required opening it up, and wrapping the film around the take-up spool, closing the camera, and then advancing several frames that were exposed when you loaded the film, so unexposed film faced the shutter. When you reached the end of the film, you would then have to manually rewind all the film back onto the original light proof spool, before you took the spool out, to send away for developing - unless you had your own darkroom.
The instamatic was loaded by placing a new cartridge in it. The cartridge contained an internal take-up spool, and would automatically advance to unexposed film. When all the film was exposed the cartridge was removed for mailing to Kodak, and a new cartridge was inserted. Geo Swan (talk) 17:43, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
- stale discussion. @Geo Swan: enwiki has also quite massive en:Category:135 film cameras. Are the Commons category acceptable? Estopedist1 (talk) 11:13, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
- I don't think it matters that I raised this issue over a year ago, and no one responded. My points remain valid.
- stale discussion. @Geo Swan: enwiki has also quite massive en:Category:135 film cameras. Are the Commons category acceptable? Estopedist1 (talk) 11:13, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
- Category:135 film cameras just shows that the error that caused this huge screw-up was repeated on en.wiki.
- @Morven: who started both the commons category and the en.wiki category. Geo Swan (talk) 12:33, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
- Also the Wikipedia article en:135 film. --ghouston (talk) 11:19, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
- @Morven: who started both the commons category and the en.wiki category. Geo Swan (talk) 12:33, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Not done: No consensus for any changes. --The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 06:32, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
We have Category:Cured meats but this one is somehow "singular". Judging by the many subcats it must be pluralised. OTOH, a closer link to "cured meats"? E4024 (talk) 15:23, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
- stale discussion. I am not sure. Eg if I see category:Meats and its subcategories, several of them are in singular Estopedist1 (talk) 12:15, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Done: No consensus for changing anything. --The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 06:31, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
This disambiguation page has more files in it than the real categories. I propose eliminating it. It will be easier for everybody to only use the cats with parentheses. Thanks. E4024 (talk) 00:21, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- Keep we don't delete DAB categories, unless we decide to make one of the meanings primary this should remain. Just move the files to the correct qualified title. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:53, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- Be my guest, move the files. I asked this because in similar issues it is always me who works to clean up. BTW the name of the Basque town in Spain is "Álava" in both Spanish and English. Commons should follow the mainstream. --E4024 (talk) 12:10, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- The carriage is "Araba" and w:Araba is a DAB page. The town in Spain is "Álava" (with a diacritic) so that should probbaly be renamed to Category:Álava instead and the DAB kept as is. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:17, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
- I think you do not understand me that there is only one thing called "araba" here. The attitude of EN:WP towards anything Turkish should be a matter of serious academic research and analysis. Notwithstanding that, I see no obligation to follow suit with those pages. --E4024 (talk) 14:00, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
- stale discussion. Currently three meanings. Enwiki has also DAB. CFD can be closed Estopedist1 (talk) 13:12, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
- I think you do not understand me that there is only one thing called "araba" here. The attitude of EN:WP towards anything Turkish should be a matter of serious academic research and analysis. Notwithstanding that, I see no obligation to follow suit with those pages. --E4024 (talk) 14:00, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
- The carriage is "Araba" and w:Araba is a DAB page. The town in Spain is "Álava" (with a diacritic) so that should probbaly be renamed to Category:Álava instead and the DAB kept as is. Crouch, Swale (talk) 10:17, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
- Be my guest, move the files. I asked this because in similar issues it is always me who works to clean up. BTW the name of the Basque town in Spain is "Álava" in both Spanish and English. Commons should follow the mainstream. --E4024 (talk) 12:10, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
Not done: It appears that this has been resolved. --The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 06:28, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
This category is poorly named. Assuming that categorisation is viable/useful it should be something like "Human Y-DNA haplogroups dominating in Poland". Or maybe typical/usual? Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 05:31, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- Triggered by https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump#How_can_I_detect_reasons_for_insane_categorization%3F that claimed deeper issues. I am not qualified to answer whatever "things like Category:Human Y-DNA haplogroups in Poland are as problematic as they are scientifically irrelevant and even misleading. -- Tuválkin" (summoning quoted person: @Tuvalkin: )Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 05:37, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete and protect against re-creation.
- The existence of this category and the parent that only has this category in it, Category:Haplogroup I of Y-DNA by country, only have the possible use of promoting scientific racism. Racist lobbyists have manipulated this Wikimedia project and others to promote eugenicist views, such as the genetic superiority of "Mongoloid" genes producing more intelligent humans; if in doubt that this has been happening, refer to m:Talk:Black_Lives_Matter#Scientific_racism.
- There is no scientific basis to justify chopping up human genetic traits by politically defined national territories. Humans are allowed to travel between countries, and no country has a rule that forces in-breeding on its populations.
- Genetic differences exist and can be analysed based on historical groupings, but these have absolute nothing to do with the categorization of living people by territory.
- Addendum Ref Commons:Requests for checkuser/Case/華夏1000, relevant as all the content in this category has been created by locked accounts, indicating a high probability of sockpuppet manipulation, possibly a team. --Fæ (talk) 09:48, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- Delete category and parent category. This sort of categorization is worthless. Pretty much all haplogroups are present in most countries. Any effort to associate specific haplogroups with specific counties is basically just racist nationalism. Kaldari (talk) 23:25, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
stale discussion. The nominated category is empty. But we still have Poland-focused Category:Haplogroups in Poland, and even Category:Haplogroup U (mtDNA) by country. Should we delete whole Poland category tree?--Estopedist1 (talk) 13:16, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Done: Deleted. --The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 06:31, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
I don't see any images of George Francis Lyon, himself, in this category. So, shouldn't it be renamed to something like Category:Images from George Francis Lyon? Geo Swan (talk) 18:04, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Geo Swan: the current situation is acceptable, compare eg Category:Oskar Sädek. But if you want to do a new category (which is also a good solution), then I suggest something like Category:Works by George Francis Lyon Estopedist1 (talk) 16:43, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Not done: No consensus for change (and there now are illustrations of him). --The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 07:13, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
Redundant to Category:Hand shadows (Wikipedia defines Shadowgraphy as "the art of performing a story or show using images made by hand shadows"): unless there's some usefully significant difference in meaning, one should be merged to the other. Lord Belbury (talk) 18:17, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- I agree. --Hypsibius (talk) 17:01, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
Done: Already merged by user:Anvilaquarius. --The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 06:26, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
The description of this category reads "Category for screenshots of Kernigh playing NetHack on 22 October 2005." This sounds a lot like a personal image collection to me, and those are not allowed on Commons, as they fall outside of the project scope. See COM:PARTYPICS for further information. 46.132.191.22 12:48, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
- stale discussion. These files may have educational purpose. We also have category:NetHack. But I am not sure what to do with the category's name? If these files are in scope, then they somehow should be connected with "category:NetHack". Other possible is to use a hidden category function Estopedist1 (talk) 17:15, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
- Documenting/describing NetHack is within our scope. Having group of images that as a collection depict as single play-through also can be useful. It should not be deleted without providing some other reliable way to show this images in organized fashion on one page Mateusz Konieczny (talk) 06:15, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
Done: Merged into Category:Screenshots of NetHack. --The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 06:25, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
Firstly, the arondissements are ill-named. There should be a separator ("de" in French, "of" in English) between "Arrondissement" and the name of the prefecture/sous-prefecture. Secondly, the arrondissements are pure administrative subdivisions. They don't really have a proper existence in ordinary life. Outside the mother-category for each arrondissement, I don't think it's pertinent to subdivide regional categories in arrondissements when there are already subdivisions likes department (which have a much stronger identity) or even communes (cities). Rhadamante (talk) 05:46, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
- I have created some of these categories, following a pattern already used in Grand Est and Bourgogne-Franche-Comté. Who care's about "ordinary life"? I can't see the link between an administrative subdivision and daily life. Administrative subdivisions exist, period. Using communes or departments instead? Seriously? Buildings by communes exist already. Buildings by department too. Don't you think that something is needed between them? Categories with more than 900 units like some departments seem a good idea to you? These giant categories are absolutely unpractical, splitting them in subcategories is obviously needed. This provides a first sorting making subcategories more manageable. The exemples in Grand Est can prove it. --Birdie (talk) 17:41, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
- Concerning the names, indeed the French arrondissements are written in German and they are all following the pattern "Arrondissement Chef-lieu" in Commons. As a german contributor created lots of them, I think it's quite obvious why they're written this way. --Birdie (talk) 18:00, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
- Seriously, these subdivisions don't exist in reality. Everybody know in which commune/department/region they live, each of these division has as a direct link to certain aspects of life (for instance in education, communes fund/manage pre-school/elementary schools, départements do the same with collèges and the régions with lycées). Arrondissements don't. They are purely administrative artificial divisions. It is as inept as subcategorizing buildings in the United States by congressional districts. It's maybe "convenient" to use them as subcategories, but at some point, it's useless to have subcategories that have no connection to reality. Rhadamante (talk) 01:30, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
- So... I don't see your point. Something shouldn't exist cos it's just for administrative purpose? In which "reality" do you live? The fact you don't use it (I guess you don't have a vehicle or a licence), doesn't mean it doesn't exist. In fact, if you were living in France, your ID card, your passport or your visa would be issued in the sous-préfecture of your dwelling. But it still doesn't exist in "your reality" as you obviously don't care about such details. --Birdie (talk) 11:13, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
- Seriously, these subdivisions don't exist in reality. Everybody know in which commune/department/region they live, each of these division has as a direct link to certain aspects of life (for instance in education, communes fund/manage pre-school/elementary schools, départements do the same with collèges and the régions with lycées). Arrondissements don't. They are purely administrative artificial divisions. It is as inept as subcategorizing buildings in the United States by congressional districts. It's maybe "convenient" to use them as subcategories, but at some point, it's useless to have subcategories that have no connection to reality. Rhadamante (talk) 01:30, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
- Concerning the names, indeed the French arrondissements are written in German and they are all following the pattern "Arrondissement Chef-lieu" in Commons. As a german contributor created lots of them, I think it's quite obvious why they're written this way. --Birdie (talk) 18:00, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
stale discussion. The nominated category fits well into Category:Buildings in Île-de-France. I guess that solution is keep--Estopedist1 (talk) 17:19, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
Not done: No consensus for change. --The Squirrel Conspiracy (talk) 07:12, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
This should normally be called Category:Files from rodrigoparedes Flickr stream, but there is also Category:Files by Rodrigo Paredes, which has the same scope, as far as I can see. 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 11:27, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
- Support as author. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 13:19, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Jeff G.: Support what exactly? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 13:21, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
- @1234qwer1234qwer4: Sorry, I thought this was a cookie-cutter nom like the first two on my user talk. The 931 total files and 1 cat in Category:Files transferred from Flickr user rodrigoparedes in my Category:Files transferred by User:Jeff G. from Flickr are what I transferred. I am responsible for them. It seems Sturm is responsible for Category:Files by Rodrigo Paredes in (wrongly singular) Category:Photographs by Flickr photographer and the 59 additional files there (total 909). I suggest we rename Category:Files by Rodrigo Paredes to Category:Files from rodrigoparedes Flickr stream, rename Category:Files transferred from Flickr user rodrigoparedes to Category:Files from rodrigoparedes Flickr stream transferred by User:Jeff G,, make Category:Files from rodrigoparedes Flickr stream transferred by User:Jeff G, a subcategory of Category:Files from rodrigoparedes Flickr stream, and take 931 files that are in Category:Files from rodrigoparedes Flickr stream transferred by User:Jeff G, and child away from Category:Files from rodrigoparedes Flickr stream per COM:OVERCAT. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 14:09, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
- @Jeff G.: Support what exactly? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 13:21, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not sure OVERCAT applies here. @Jmabel: On the village pump, you said "You should be able to navigate down the category tree in a reasonable way & find something appropriately categorized without ever taking the branch for a 'source' category". Does a creation of a subcategory by uploader to a category by source including the removal of the content of the subcategory from the upper one go against that rule? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:39, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
- Since this is entirely about hidden categories, I don't really care a lot. I doubt anyone will be looking for images by this particular person, and if they were they'd presumably search on his name rather than using categories. Very different from (for example) narrowing from a museum as institution to that museum as source. - Jmabel ! talk 00:47, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
- I'm not sure OVERCAT applies here. @Jmabel: On the village pump, you said "You should be able to navigate down the category tree in a reasonable way & find something appropriately categorized without ever taking the branch for a 'source' category". Does a creation of a subcategory by uploader to a category by source including the removal of the content of the subcategory from the upper one go against that rule? 1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 20:39, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
stale discussion. We are not so strict with hidden/usesr categories. I guess we can close this CFD as keep--Estopedist1 (talk) 18:42, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- I would still prefer that the categories be merged in some way. @Jeff G. Do you really need an intersection cat with Category:Files transferred by User:Jeff G. from Flickr, since they appear to be in Category:Photos transferred by User:Jeff G. from Flickr anyway? 𝟙𝟤𝟯𝟺𝐪𝑤𝒆𝓇𝟷𝟮𝟥𝟜𝓺𝔴𝕖𝖗𝟰 (𝗍𝗮𝘭𝙠) 19:52, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
- @Estopedist1 and 1234qwer1234qwer4: I stand by my post of 14:09, 9 August 2020 (UTC) above. — Jeff G. ツ please ping or talk to me 22:32, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
@1234qwer1234qwer4, Jeff G., Jmabel, and Estopedist1: Support Merge + rename to Category:Photographs by Rodrigo Paredes. Reasons:
- Which of his files are not photographs? I could not find one. So then I think the rule applies: Be as specific as possible.
- A lot of photos are in both categories. I think it is not desirable to have two categories when there is a lot of overlap.
- Why should Category:Files transferred from Flickr user rodrigoparedes and/or Category:Files by Rodrigo Paredes exist? Why not just simple Category:Photographs by Rodrigo Paredes?
- I agree with Jmabel: people who are searching for his photos, presumably search on his name rather than using categories. So one category is enough.
--JopkeB (talk) 03:24, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
Since there was no reaction to this proposal in more than four weeks, I close this discussion and implement the merge proposal. --JopkeB (talk) 11:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
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| Consensus | Resolved without objection | |||
| Actions | 1) Rename Category:Files transferred from Flickr user rodrigoparedes to Category:Photographs by Rodrigo Paredes. Merge Category:Files by Rodrigo Paredes also into this new category. Done | |||
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| Closed by | JopkeB (talk) 11:08, 27 January 2024 (UTC) | |||
@ŠJů: problematic requested move:
{{move|Interiors of metro trains|to distinguish from interiors of metro stations etc. |3=2020-05-18}}
To be moved to category:Interiors of metro trains, but eg category:Interiors of metro stations is missing. One parent category is Category:Train interiors Estopedist1 (talk) 08:44, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
- One problem with metro stations is that there quite often an overlap with railway stations wich often have both metro and railway trains. Often they are very distinc separate parts of the station, but in some stations you have metro trains on the same platforms. Where there is a separate category (Category:Brussels Midi station (metro)) no problem but you also have Category:Amstelstation wih both trains and metro's stopping at the same platforms for crossplatform acces.Smiley.toerist (talk) 09:18, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
@Estopedist1 and Smiley.toerist: The vast majority (almost all) of the photographs contained concerned interior of trains. I created a subcategory for metro train interiors and renamed all existing subcategories by country to make their names clearer.
The categories of metro station interiors do not yet have their own categorization structure probably, I have found only a few individual cases. However, I would consider such a category to be promising - in the future it will certainly be appropriate to divide photographs of stations into exterior and interior, and this in even more detail - the station tunnels (platforms), vestibules, inside and outside escalators and stairs, etc.
Boundary and two-system trains and stations can be treated individually, for example by parallel categorization. But in my country, for example, metro stations have a different operator than railway stations, and the borderline between them is clear, even if the two stations are connected to each other in one transfer node.
We still have the long-standing problem of whether and how the "metro" systems can be distinguished from other rapid transit systems, but this is another question and must be addressed at another time and discussion. For example, some suburban railways are integral part of general railway traffic, others are similar to separate metro systems.--ŠJů (talk) 16:31, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
No consensus on what to do with this category, default to keep. Since the required categories Interiors of metro trains and Interiors of metro stations have been created, there's no need to open this discussion. --Sbb1413 (he) (talk • contribs) 07:45, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
This cat must either be deleted immediately or made (from scratch) to fit our categorization system. Now it is only under Category:Buses by operator which is a classification based on bus operating "companies". There may even be a company called "City" somewhere and that will add to the problem here. At this moment within the cat there are images of random buses from the city of Astana to the city of Adana which have in common only beginning with an A and ending with an a. E4024 (talk) 18:02, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
- stale discussion. Enwiki en:city bus is redirected to "transit bus" (Commons equivalent Category:Transit buses) Estopedist1 (talk) 16:49, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
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| Consensus | The category is redundant due to the existence of Category:Transit buses. | |||
| Actions | The files have been up-merged to Category:Transit buses and the category has been nominated for speedy deletion. | |||
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| Closed by | --Adamant1 (talk) 04:22, 31 August 2024 (UTC) | |||