Commons:Categories for discussion/2017/05/Category:Truck roofs
The exact purpose and content of this category is unclear. Different types of images are all thrown together and it's rapidly growing. It sure is a nice thing to have a well-sorted collection of different views, parts and aspects of truck vehicles. But categories should be well defined and understandable for all users.
In my opinion a category name "truck roofs" suggests that only pictures showing / focusing primarily on the roof of a truck should be in there. Right now only a few of the images listed in this category really belong in there. (Possible subcategories could be named after different roof types.)
Most of the other images are showing trucks in different views their roofs somehow visible. These images could be categorized as different types of Category:Views of trucks for example Category:Three-quarter views of trucks, other pictures are showing trucks in Category:Bird's-eye view or in Category:High-angle shot, for automobiles categories like Category:Bird's-eye views of automobiles or Category:High-angle shots of automobiles could be created and also such categories for trucks. For top views a subcategory for trucks Category:Top views of trucks could also be applied. In any case before sorting a lot of pictures a closer look at the category system should be taken.
For sure something has to be changed. Zaccarias (talk) 21:08, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- I agree that this category should contain only images that focus on roofs, that is, where the main thing in the image is the roof. Otherwise, we'd have way too much in the category because most general views of trucks would show at least part of the roof. I definitely wouldn't include those subcategories that appear to be for specific models of trucks. --Auntof6 (talk) 21:45, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- At least one of my images of trucks were given this category. I thought the only reason for it was the fact that the windows and doors were removed, and all you could see were the thin frames holding the roof up. Then I saw many of the other trucks with that category, and I didn't know what to think. ----DanTD (talk) 18:07, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
- There is no need for the image to focus on the roof, provided that the roof is sufficiently prominent to be seen, and displays some relevant aspect of truck roofs that meets COM:SCOPE. Few images will be specifically of such a roof, many will incidentally happen to show a feature that still relevant to some contexts. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:12, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Andy Dingley: I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "displays some relevant aspect of truck roofs that meets COM:SCOPE." Don't a majority of images of trucks clearly include the roof? Do we need a category that includes that many images of trucks? If a photo includes a truly important aspect of a truck roof, couldn't a crop be made, and the cropped image could be placed in Category:Truck roofs? I'm not disagreeing, but if we're not going to limit the category to images that focus/centre the roof, we should have a clear category description so that we don't end up with thousands of images of trucks with roofs. - Themightyquill (talk) 11:05, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
- "displays some relevant aspect of <category> that meets COM:SCOPE." would be a workable reason for adding any of our categories. Some (e.g. geographical places) require definite membership of some location, but don't need to obviously show it. Others (such as truck roofs) might be incidental aspects of many photos (all trucks have a roof), but only a few will show that aspect to a useful extent. My truck photos don't usually show roofs - I'm taking them from my eye level. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:49, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Andy Dingley: I'm not sure I understand what you mean by "displays some relevant aspect of truck roofs that meets COM:SCOPE." Don't a majority of images of trucks clearly include the roof? Do we need a category that includes that many images of trucks? If a photo includes a truly important aspect of a truck roof, couldn't a crop be made, and the cropped image could be placed in Category:Truck roofs? I'm not disagreeing, but if we're not going to limit the category to images that focus/centre the roof, we should have a clear category description so that we don't end up with thousands of images of trucks with roofs. - Themightyquill (talk) 11:05, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
- Do you find that category definition acceptable, Zaccarias? Certainly, there are many photos in Category:Truck roofs that I would argue don't show a truck roof to a useful extent, and could therefore be removed. - Themightyquill (talk) 09:45, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
Stale discussion. 
Keep, but not qualifying files to be removed from the nominated category. Hints may be taken from the parent Category:Automobile roofs where most of the files clearly is suitable for the category--Estopedist1 (talk) 06:47, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
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| Notes | I'm closing this as "no consensus" since it seems to be dead on arrival and no one has commented on it in at least a few years. Anyone who disagrees is free to start a new CfD with a clear path forward though. | |||
| Closed by | --Adamant1 (talk) 05:46, 29 June 2024 (UTC) | |||