Wikidata:Property proposal/Ancestry.com ID

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Ancestry.com profile ID

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Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Person

   Not done
DescriptionMISSING
Data typeExternal identifier
Domainhuman (Q5)
Allowed valuesletters and numbers
Example 1Richard Feynman (Q39246) → 24-4mlgvl
Example 2David M. Himmelblau (Q59626616) → 24-17j7296
Example 3Morris Shamos (Q96043428) → 24-8gvttl
Formatter URLhttps://www.ancestry.com/genealogy/records/$1
See alsoGeni.com profile ID (P2600), DAR ancestor ID (P7969)

Motivation

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I figured it would make sense to add this since we already have Geni.com profile ID (P2600). Bender235 (talk) 22:16, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

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Yes "stable" means we can expect it to not change over time. --Melderick (talk) 16:24, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
If you ckeck me in my tree person/tree/20261258/person/921521013/facts looks like they have unique ids for every tree and person? feels better if they had unique ids per person. If someone "import" a person into another tree can we find that person in Ancestry or do we need to add another Wikidata property value... - Salgo60 (talk) 08:48, 8 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure I understand. Are you suggesting that david-m-himmelblau-24-17j7296 points to records about anyone named "David M. Himmelblau", not just David M. Himmelblau (Q59626616)? --Bender235 (talk) 16:28, 9 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Bender235:, I don't know what Salgo60 meant but the question you mention is interesting. What is the answer ? --Melderick (talk) 16:24, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
To my knowledge they are unique. --Bender235 (talk) 16:29, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
ChristianKl (talk) 15:11, 24 June 2017 (UTC) Melderick (talk) 12:22, 25 July 2017 (UTC) Richard Arthur Norton Jklamo (talk) 20:21, 14 October 2017 (UTC) Sam Wilson Gap9551 (talk) 18:41, 5 November 2017 (UTC) Jrm03063 (talk) 15:46, 22 May 2018 (UTC) Egbe Eugene (talk) Eugene233 (talk) 03:40, 19 June 2018 (UTC) Dcflyer (talk) 07:45, 9 September 2018 (UTC) Gamaliel (talk) 13:01, 12 July 2019 (UTC) Pablo Busatto (talk) 11:51, 24 August 2019 (UTC) Theklan (talk) 19:25, 20 December 2019 (UTC) SM5POR (talk) 20:17, 29 May 2020 (UTC) Pmt (talk) 23:22, 27 June 2020 (UTC) CarlJohanSveningsson (talk) 12:13, 30 July 2020 (UTC) Ayack (talk) 14:39, 12 October 2020 (UTC) EthanRobertLee (talk) 19:17, 20 December 2020 (UTC) -- Darwin Ahoy! 18:20, 25 December 2020 (UTC) Germartin1 (talk) 03:13, 30 December 2020 (UTC) Skim (talk) 00:13, 10 January 2021 (UTC) El Dubs (talk) 21:55, 29 April 2021 (UTC) CAFLibrarian (talk) 16:36, 30 September 2021 (UTC) Jheald (talk) 18:50, 23 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Notified participants of WikiProject Genealogy --- Jura 14:33, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  •  Oppose. Are these IDs stable? What form of authority control is practiced? Since the same person can exist in any number of user-created family trees could there potentially be an infinite number of identifiers for the same individual? Gamaliel (talk) 15:32, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • For the sake of argument, let's assume this can't happen somehow. Only one tree is displayed on the examples you linked. What process is used to decide which tree is displayed? If we are going to create a property for a website which relies on a huge amount of user-generated data, we should have some idea of how it sorts through all that data and decides, hey, this is the correct tree out of 1000 trees. Gamaliel (talk) 17:11, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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