The rule in our Bible is here:
https://www.themoviedb.org/bible/movie/59f3b16d9251414f20000003#59f73ca39251416e7100000b
I think only the very famous ones.
With outstanding performance. Rin-Tin-Tin.
There was a TV series named after him.

I appreciate that, but that's where my confusion comes. If these animal actors have news articles, online biographies, etc, surely they've achieved a sufficient level of fame? If they've appeared in significant scenes in successful movies, isn't that movie fame? And surely I'm not alone in being curious after watching animals in movies to see if they have other film credits, which these do? There are currently quite a few animal actors on the TMDB pages with fewer credits than the ones I've mentioned, or credits in less noteworthy movies - so given that these two animal actors have credits that are verifiable, it just strikes me as odd that those two that I've created have been singled out for removal, despite being, I would argue, famous and significant in their movies.

It is undoubtedly difficult to create a clear rule.
Maybe there are some here that will be deleted in the future.
The fact that they are cited in other sources is not enough to be added here.
Some of the ones you mentioned, I saw the films and don't remember them.
So the rule is only the very famous.

Remembering that I wasn't the one who deleted them.
There are moderators with more knowledge than me who take care of this.

Why make the distinction by an arbitrary perception of how famous they are? Darla is credited in the end credits of Silence of the Lambs (you can spot her here https://youtu.be/MZt9pxFkwWc?t=26) but her profile on TMDb gets removed? She's credited, why try to remove her hard earned credit while other, no offense to Gidget, way more irrelevant dogs have a profile (https://www.themoviedb.org/person/1748262-gidget)

I just feel that the rule "Famous animals are allowed (e.g. Trigger in the Roy Rogers movies)" is ripe for misinterpretation. I clearly believe they meet that criteria, and a particular moderator clearly doesn't, but there's no clear line drawn as to why these animal actors aren't accepted but others (indeed, others in fewer films or less significant scenes) are.

For Silence of the Lambs, in many of Buffalo Bill's most famous scenes, the dog is present, and part of the analysis of his character has included his ownership of a pet. I can't help but feel that appearing in numerous significant scenes in an Oscar-winning film constitutes a certain level of fame (the uncredited cameo of George A Romero is far more fleeting yet gets a mention here). As noted above, this particular animal actor is actually cited in the credits of the movie, so surely removing her actually renders those credits incomplete?

In the case of Ophelia from Game Night/Widows, in the poster TMDB has elected to represent that movie - https://www.themoviedb.org/movie/445571-game-night - front and centre is the dog. Whilst I appreciate this doesn't correlate with 'fame' per se, it presumably demonstrates that the dog is one of the elements of the movie the creators felt most noteworthy, yet it doesn't get a note here. I can't help but feel that knowing that this animal has further movie credits is something that aids knowledge of the film.

I can see this in other places too. Just a brief look at the Anatomy of a Fall edits, for example, shows numerous people adding Messi (who inarguably achieved 'fame' this year given the significant dog scenes, numerous accolades, viral references, and focus on him at the Oscars, yet of course only has one movie credit), and numerous times that page being deleted, so this is not isolated to my complaints - this is something that pretty much any film with an animal actor can fall into.

As I say, therein lies my issue. Some people clearly believe these constitute noteworthy animal actors, and including them makes the credits more complete. Someone else doesn't. At the very least it would be helpful if pages that are removed are up for discussion before their removal, to see if there is agreement on them reaching (or failing to reach) the remit of fame. On the Anatomy of a Fall edits page, I counted ten accounts who added Messi, considering him famous enough, but despite this consensus from editors, Messi isn't famous enough? I can't help but feel that the rules here need a lot more clarity, and there should be a clearer explanation of why pages are deleted when they are deleted.

It sounds like Darla and Olivia should meet TMDB's criteria for inclusion given their prominent roles and verifiable credits. You might want to contact TMDB support to clarify why their pages were removed and provide evidence of their significant roles.

The inclusion of animal actors like Darla and Olivia is important, especially given their significant roles in well-known films. It's surprising to see their credits removed, considering that other animal actors like Bart the Bear and Sam the Orangutan have their own pages. Given that TMDB allows famous actors, these animals with verifiable credits deserve recognition. Reinstating their credits would honor their contributions and maintain consistency in how TMDB acknowledges animal actors.

I've noticed that, recently, Jimmy the Crow from It's a Wonderful Life and The Wizard of Oz has been removed.

The contribution bible states "Famous animals are allowed (e.g. Trigger in the Roy Rogers movies)."

The Wizard of Oz and It's a Wonderful Life are two of the most famous movies of all time, the latter of which is watched by many every Christmas, and which features Jimmy prominently.

The Roy Rogers movies are relics of a former time. I've never seen a single one, and I imagine many cineastes haven't.

Trigger is famous, and has a role in Hollywood history... but exactly that, he's a historical fact more than anything. Jimmy the Crow has a role in Hollywood history, and in some of Hollywood's most famous and loved movies.

(I'd argue, incidentally, Trigger is famous in the way animal actors like Uggie from The Artist are famous nowadays - yet those actors are removed)

Would it be possible to have some clarity from the mods removing these pages? I find it very hard to understand Jimmy the Crow being considered less famous than Trigger the Horse, let alone the other issues I and others have mentioned here.