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Biden-Trump 2024 debate highlights: Biden stumbles as Trump fires off falsehoods

President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump faced off in the first debate of the 2024 election cycle. It was the first time they'd met since the 2020 campaign.

What to know about tonight's debate

  • President Joe Biden and former President Donald Trump held their first presidential debate of the cycle tonight in Atlanta. The two candidates were in a studio without an audience.
  • Biden struggled at times, stumbling over answers with a raspy voice — a campaign aide said he has a cold — and adding fodder to concerns about his age and mental fitness. Near the halfway mark, Biden started gaining his footing again, mocking Trump's physical fitness and calling him a "whiner" and a "loser."
  • Trump, meanwhile, offered numerous falsehoods and misleading statements in his responses. He hammered Biden on immigration and the border, even when he was asked about other issues. And he repeatedly dodged questions about whether he would accept the results of the election.
  • Both candidates also hurled personal insults at each other, with Biden hitting Trump for his alleged affair with adult film star Stormy Daniels and Trump calling Biden a "complainer" and the "worst president" in American history.

How Obama and Pelosi react to Biden's debate performance could shape the race

Just how consequential was Biden’s poor debate performance? We will find out in the next 72 to 96 hours. Based on the number of panicked texts and emails I received from various leaders in the Democratic Party, there is a lot more consternation about Biden’s running for a second term than I’ve heard since he took his first oath in 2021.

Here are a few things to watch in the next few days.

1. How does Team Biden calm the Democratic waters?

The obvious answer is to flood the zone with Biden, signing him up for interviews with multiple outlets, from the Sunday shows to Jon Stewart and everything in between. Whether he’s up to it or not, they may have no choice but to put him out there if they want to shore up the nervous nellies.

2. What Democrats step up and defend Biden as staying on as the nominee?

The two Democrats I’m most intrigued to hear from are former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and former President Barack Obama. They are, arguably, the two most influential Democrats not named Joe Biden right now, and if they went public saying, “Thank you for your service but it’s time for new blood,” I’m not sure Biden could survive as the nominee.

Of course, they are also the two Democrats Team Biden needs the most right now to go public and calm the waters. The most influential donors who are nervous about Biden will follow the lead of Pelosi and Obama on this. One way or another, I expect to hear from them. The longer it takes for them to rally around Biden publicly, the more the Democratic chattering class will start talking about a convention scenario.

When Ronald Reagan had his poor first debate performance, he didn’t have to wait nearly three months for a second bite at the apple. But before folks start looking up the rules of an open convention, expect the Biden campaign to remind many of us of the Reagan comeback. His best hope right now is that the country is so polarized that the debate barely moves the poll needle. That having been said, the biggest problem Biden has right now is that, at best, he’s a good six weeks away from being able to have a chance to prove the growing number of doubters wrong. It could be the start of a long, hot summer of intrigue inside the Democratic Party.

Biden-supporting House member calls for open convention

One House member who is a Biden supporter said after having watched the debate that there has to be an open convention and that more people are going to be calling for it.

Biden makes a pit stop at a Waffle House

Biden is making a stop at a Waffle House on his way to the airport.

He will talk with diners and pick up pre-ordered food.

Democrats are talking about replacing Joe Biden. That won’t be so easy.

Biden’s performance in the first debate tonight has sparked a new round of criticism from Democrats, as well as public and private musing about whether he should remain at the top of the ticket.

Party rules make it almost impossible to replace nominees without their consent, let alone smoothly replace them with someone else. And doing so would amount to party insiders' overturning the results of primaries when Democratic voters overwhelmingly to nominate Biden. He won almost 99% of all delegates.

Still, the Democratic National Committee’s charter does make some provisions in case the party’s nominee is incapacitated or opts to step aside, and an anti-Biden coup at the convention is theoretically possible, if highly unlikely. So how would it work?

Read the full story here.

Fact Check

Fact check: Are immigrants taking 'Black jobs'?

Elleiana GreenElleiana Green is a Digital Politics intern with NBC News

Asked about Black voters who are disappointed with their economic progress, Trump claimed Black Americans are losing their jobs because of illegal border crossings under Biden’s administration.

Statement

“The fact is that his big kill on the Black people is the millions of people that he’s allowed to come through the border. They’re taking Black jobs now,” Trump said.

Verdict

False

Analysis

There's no evidence that undocumented immigrants are taking jobs away from Black Americans. In fact, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the Black unemployment rate fell to 4.8% in April 2023 — an all-time low. Before that, the Black unemployment rate was as high as 10.2% in April 2021.

Verdict

False

Analysis

There's no evidence that undocumented immigrants are taking jobs away from Black Americans. In fact, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the Black unemployment rate fell to 4.8% in April 2023 — an all-time low. Before that, the Black unemployment rate was as high as 10.2% in April 2021.

Biden’s performance in the first presidential debate is raising questions about whether Democrats might try to replace him as the nominee.

A peppier Biden addresses debate watch party crowd: 'We're gonna beat this guy'

Biden began his remarks in front of the debate watch party crowd with an anecdote he’s used before about a John Wayne movie and lying, dog-faced pony soldiers. 

Appearing more energetic than he did during the debate, Biden used the anecdote to make the case that Trump lied throughout the debate and that fact-checkers would be sifting through his responses.

He said: "They’re gonna be fact-checking all the things he said. I can’t think of one thing he said that was true. I’m not being facetious. Look, we’re gonna beat this guy; we need to beat this. I need you in order to beat ’em. You’re the people I’m running for."

Kamala Harris: Biden had a 'slow start' but a 'strong finish'

Vice President Harris defended Biden after the debate, acknowledging to CNN, "Yes, there was a slow start, but it was a strong finish."

She said Biden was "extraordinarily" strong on "substance, on policy, on performance."

Asked why Biden’s performance was significantly different from his performances in primary debates against Harris and other Democrats in 2020, she continued her wholehearted defense of him.

“I got the point that you’re making about a 1½-hour debate tonight. I’m talking about 3½ years of performance and work that has been historic,” she said before listing Biden’s work on infrastructure and his strength in the Oval Office and the Situation Room.

Her characterization of “substance” echoed remarks earlier in the night from a Biden campaign aide and California Gov. Gavin Newsom.

“People can debate on style points, but ultimately this election and who is the president of the U.S. has to be about substance, and the contrast is clear,” Harris said.

Sen. JD Vance: Trump 'has not asked me' to be his running mate

Sen. JD Vance, R-Ohio, told NBC News that Trump has not asked him to be his running mate.

"He has not asked me," Vance said in the spin room after the debate.

Trump recently said that he knows who he wants to be his running mate and that his pick would be at the debate. NBC News has reported that Vance, North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum and Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida are the top contenders to join the Trump ticket.

GOP Senate candidates try to turn Biden's performance against Democrats

Republican Senate candidates in key battlegrounds were quick to respond to tonight's debate with a coordinated message rooted in Biden's shaky performance: This is the candidate my opponent votes with nearly all of the time.

"Think about the Joe Biden you saw tonight," Bernie Moreno, the GOP nominee seeking to unseat Democratic Sen. Sherrod Brown in Ohio, posted on X. "That’s who Sherrod Brown supports for President and votes with 99% of the time."

In Michigan, former Rep. Mike Rogers, the front-runner in August's GOP Senate primary, posted that Rep. Elissa Slotkin, the front-runner for the Democratic nomination, "votes with Joe Biden 100% of the time but she hasn’t said a word about tonight’s debate."

Dave McCormick, the GOP Senate nominee in Pennsylvania, posted a clip of Biden stumbling through an answer and remarking that "we finally beat Medicare."

"This is the Joe Biden that Bob Casey votes with 98% of the time," McCormick, referring to the Democratic incumbent, wrote on X.

And in Arizona, GOP Senate candidate Kari Lake noted that Rep. Ruben Gallego, her likely Democratic opponent, "went into radio silence for the debate."

"He knows it was an embarrassment to his party & the man he’s supported 100% of the time," Lake posted on X.

Brown, Slotkin, Casey and Gallego have yet to weigh in on X.

Tracking candidate speaking times and questions

Macklin Fishman

How long did each candidate speak?

Biden: ~35.5 minutes 

Trump: ~40 minutes

How many questions was each candidate asked?

Biden: 8

Trump: 13

'Double haters' want a new name

Reporting from a debate watch party in Phoenix

“Double haters” who assembled in Arizona have come up with new terms for their feelings after watching the debate tonight in Phoenix.

“Double cringe,” Jeff Herr, a self-identified “McCain Republican,” said of how he felt watching the debate tonight.

“Double frustrated,” said Nicole Aguirre, a conservative Christian who doesn’t plan to vote for president this year.

Fact Check

Fact check: Does Biden want to raise 'everybody's taxes' by four times?

Statement

“Nobody ever cut taxes like us. He wants to raise your taxes by four times. He wants to raise everybody’s taxes by four times,” Trump claimed. "He wants the Trump tax cuts to expire."

Verdict

False

Analysis

Biden’s tax plan “holds harmless for 98% of households,” said Kyle Pomerleau, senior fellow at the conservative American Enterprise Institute. And Biden wants to extend the majority of the Trump tax cuts, too, though he has advocated for hiking taxes on very high earners.

Verdict

False

Analysis

Biden’s tax plan “holds harmless for 98% of households,” said Kyle Pomerleau, senior fellow at the conservative American Enterprise Institute. And Biden wants to extend the majority of the Trump tax cuts, too, though he has advocated for hiking taxes on very high earners.

Gavin Newsom: 'You don't turn your back' on Biden

California Gov. Gavin Newsom pushed back on his fellow Democrats who panicked after Biden's debate performance, telling them, "Worry less and do more."

"We have the opportunity to universally have the back of this president, who’s had our back," Newsom told MSNBC after the debate, adding, "You don’t turn your back. You go home with the one that brought you to the dance. One hundred percent all in."

Newsom also lauded Biden, calling his debate performance a win on "substance."

"I’m old-school. I’m old-fashioned. That's what matters to me," Newsom said.

Fact Check

Fact check: The Jan. 6 crowd was not 'ushered in' by the police

Statement

"If you would see my statements that I made on Twitter at the time and also my statement that I made in the Rose Garden, you would say it's one of the strongest statements you've ever seen. In addition to the speech I made in front of, I believe, the largest crowd I've ever spoken to, and I will tell you, nobody ever talks about that. They talk about a relatively small number of people that went to the Capitol and, in many cases, were ushered in by the police. And as Nancy Pelosi said, it was her responsibility, not mine. She said that loud and clear."

Trump

Verdict

False

Analysis

During a lengthy answer to a question about whether he would accept the result of the 2024 election and say all political violence is unacceptable, Trump made several false statements, including the claim that police "ushered" rioters into the U.S. Capitol and that then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said it was her responsibility to keep the chamber safe.

Video and news reports of the Jan. 6 riots clearly captured a U.S. Capitol under attack by pro-Trump crowds who overran the law enforcement presence around and inside the complex.

On Pelosi, Trump was most likely referring to video shot by Pelosi’s daughter Alexandra for an HBO documentary that showed her during the events of Jan. 6, 2021, tensely wondering how the Capitol was allowed to be stormed.

“We have responsibility, Terri,” Pelosi says to her chief of staff, Terri McCullough, as they leave the Capitol in a vehicle. ”We did not have any accountability for what was going on there, and we should have. This is ridiculous.” 

“You’re going to ask me in the middle of the thing, when they’ve already breached the inaugural stuff, ‘Should we call the Capitol Police?’ I mean the National Guard. Why weren’t the National Guard there to begin with?” Pelosi says in the video.

“They clearly didn’t know, and I take responsibility for not having them just prepare for more,” Pelosi said.

Many allies of Trump have tried for the more than three years since the riots to paint Pelosi as somehow being responsible for the violence.

Some Trump-backing Republicans have, for example, falsely claimed that she blocked the National Guard from going to the Capitol during the riots.

Verdict

False

Analysis

During a lengthy answer to a question about whether he would accept the result of the 2024 election and say all political violence is unacceptable, Trump made several false statements, including the claim that police "ushered" rioters into the U.S. Capitol and that then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said it was her responsibility to keep the chamber safe.

Video and news reports of the Jan. 6 riots clearly captured a U.S. Capitol under attack by pro-Trump crowds who overran the law enforcement presence around and inside the complex.

On Pelosi, Trump was most likely referring to video shot by Pelosi’s daughter Alexandra for an HBO documentary that showed her during the events of Jan. 6, 2021, tensely wondering how the Capitol was allowed to be stormed.

“We have responsibility, Terri,” Pelosi says to her chief of staff, Terri McCullough, as they leave the Capitol in a vehicle. ”We did not have any accountability for what was going on there, and we should have. This is ridiculous.” 

“You’re going to ask me in the middle of the thing, when they’ve already breached the inaugural stuff, ‘Should we call the Capitol Police?’ I mean the National Guard. Why weren’t the National Guard there to begin with?” Pelosi says in the video.

“They clearly didn’t know, and I take responsibility for not having them just prepare for more,” Pelosi said.

Many allies of Trump have tried for the more than three years since the riots to paint Pelosi as somehow being responsible for the violence.

Some Trump-backing Republicans have, for example, falsely claimed that she blocked the National Guard from going to the Capitol during the riots.

Trump downplays role on Jan. 6 and says some Capitol rioters are 'innocent'

Trump downplayed his role in the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol during the first presidential debate tonight, saying some people “asked me to go make a speech,” minimizing his involvement in efforts to overturn the election and the summoning of thousands of his followers to Washington for what he promised would be a “wild” time.

Trump faces four federal criminal charges in connection with his efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election, but the case is on hold as the Supreme Court decides whether he is protected by presidential immunity. He has pleaded not guilty.

Read the full story here.

Expect more attacks on VP Harris in the coming days

Trump’s camp was already planning to ramp up attacks on Harris in the coming weeks by saying a vote for Biden is a vote for the vice president. Expect these attacks to escalate rapidly.

'Can Jill Biden intervene?' Democrats panicking over Biden's performance

How bad is the overall Democratic panic about Biden's performance? One longtime Democratic strategist who works with the Biden campaign said, “Like nothing I have ever seen."

A Democratic official who supports Biden texted NBC News, "Can Jill Biden intervene? Omg"

The official added, “And I’m sorry voters don’t take the democracy stuff seriously if you’re just willing to continue with a nominee who can’t speak."

“Man, absolute disaster," the official said.

Jill Biden on husband's performance: 'I hope you heard his heart'

In a video posted on social media following the debate, first lady Jill Biden defended her husband's debate performance and told viewers that they "heard Joe's heart tonight on the debate stage."

"He wakes up every morning thinking about how he can make the lives of Americans better. He's the president we need, the president you deserve," she added.

In a statement, a campaign aide echoed the first lady, saying, "Ultimately, style over substance is what matters to voters."

Democrats are panicking about Biden’s shaky debate performance, in which he stumbled repeatedly and suffered from a hoarse speaking voice. Meanwhile, Republicans are crowing about Trump’s strong appearance on the stage by comparison.

Burgum says 'only person' who knows Trump's VP pick is Trump

North Dakota GOP Gov. Doug Burgum declined twice to directly answer whether Trump has asked him to be his running mate, but he suggested he was not aware of whom Trump has selected.

"There's only one person who knows who the next VP is, and that is President Trump," Burgum told NBC News after the debate.

Trump recently said that he knows who he wants to be his running mate and that his pick would be at the debate. Burgum is one of multiple possible running mate picks who were in the spin room in Atlanta, along with Sens. JD Vance of Ohio and Marco Rubio of Florida.

NBC News reported that Burgum, Vance and Rubio are the top contenders to join the Trump ticket.

Fact Check

Fact check: Biden said the U.S. trade deficit with China is at its lowest since 2010

Statement

“We are at the lowest trade deficit with China since 2010,” Biden said.

Verdict

True

Analysis

The U.S. had $279 billion more in imports than exports to China last year, the lowest trade deficit with the world's second-largest economy since 2010. The highest deficit in recent years was $418 billion in 2018, when Trump began a trade war with China.

The decline has been driven largely by tariffs that Trump imposed in office and that Biden has maintained and in some cases expanded.

Verdict

True

Analysis

The U.S. had $279 billion more in imports than exports to China last year, the lowest trade deficit with the world's second-largest economy since 2010. The highest deficit in recent years was $418 billion in 2018, when Trump began a trade war with China.

The decline has been driven largely by tariffs that Trump imposed in office and that Biden has maintained and in some cases expanded.

Fact Check

Fact check: Did Trump have the 'best environmental numbers ever'?

Statement

“During my four years, I had the best environmental numbers ever, and my top environmental people gave me that statistic just before I walked on the stage, actually,” Trump said.

Verdict

False

Analysis

The figure Trump is referring to is the fact that carbon emissions fell during his administration. He posted the talking points his former Environmental Protection Agency chief emailed him on social media before the debate.

And it's true that carbon emissions are falling — they have been dropping for years. Emissions particularly plunged in 2020, dropping to levels around those in 1983 and 1984. That drop was in large part thanks to Covid lockdowns, and emissions rose again when air travel and in-person working resumed.

Still, climate activists and experts are quick to note that those drops are nowhere near enough to head off predicted catastrophic effects of global warming. Other major countries cut their emissions at a much faster rate during the Trump administration.

Verdict

False

Analysis

The figure Trump is referring to is the fact that carbon emissions fell during his administration. He posted the talking points his former Environmental Protection Agency chief emailed him on social media before the debate.

And it's true that carbon emissions are falling — they have been dropping for years. Emissions particularly plunged in 2020, dropping to levels around those in 1983 and 1984. That drop was in large part thanks to Covid lockdowns, and emissions rose again when air travel and in-person working resumed.

Still, climate activists and experts are quick to note that those drops are nowhere near enough to head off predicted catastrophic effects of global warming. Other major countries cut their emissions at a much faster rate during the Trump administration.

Former Biden spokesperson: 'Not a good debate for Joe Biden'

Former Biden White House communications director Kate Bedingfield spoke candidly about her concerns on CNN after the debate.

She said the debate was "very disappointing" for many Democrats. "There are no two ways about it, that was not a good debate for Joe Biden," she said.

David Axelrod, who was one of Barack Obama's top strategists, raised the possibility of a contested convention for Democrats to find a new nominee.

"There is a sense of shock at how he came out at the beginning of this debate, how his voice sounded. He seemed a little disoriented," Axelrod said.

"There are going to be discussions about whether he should continue," Axelrod added.

Former Rep. Justin Amash says nominating Biden would be 'political malpractice'

Former Rep. Justin Amash, R-Mich., said on X that Democrats would be committing "political malpractice" by nominating Biden after tonight's debate performance.

"It would be unprecedented political malpractice for Democrats to nominate Joe Biden," said Amash, who is seeking a Senate seat in Michigan as a GOP candidate.

Biden campaign co-chair admits 'the president started off slow'

Speaking to NBC News' Lester Holt and Savannah Guthrie immediately after the debate, Biden campaign co-chair Mitch Landrieu said, "Well, I thought it was a bare-knuckled brawl," before adding: "They're right. The president started off slow, but then he came back."

Landrieu then pivoted to immediately attacking Trump, saying, "When Donald Trump was speaking, he was lying," blasting Trump for being "untethered from the truth."

Landrieu also criticized Trump for his defense of some Jan. 6 protesters and his celebration of the Supreme Court's decision to overrule Roe v. Wade.

Fact Check

Fact check: Did Trump lower the cost of insulin?

Trump claimed credit for lowering the cost of insulin for seniors.

Statement

"I am the one who got the insulin down for the seniors,” Trump said.

Verdict

Mostly false

Analysis

In 2020, Trump created a voluntary program under Medicare Part D. The program allowed Medicare Part D plans to offer some insulin products for no more than $35 per month. It was active from 2021 to 2023, with less than half of the plans participating each year.

In 2022, Biden signed the Inflation Reduction Act, which included a provision that lowered the out-of-pocket cost for people on Medicare to $35 a month and covered all insulin products. The cap did not apply to those with private insurance. However, after the law was implemented, insulin manufacturers voluntarily lowered the out-of-pocket cost to $35 a month for people with private insurance.

Verdict

Mostly false

Analysis

In 2020, Trump created a voluntary program under Medicare Part D. The program allowed Medicare Part D plans to offer some insulin products for no more than $35 per month. It was active from 2021 to 2023, with less than half of the plans participating each year.

In 2022, Biden signed the Inflation Reduction Act, which included a provision that lowered the out-of-pocket cost for people on Medicare to $35 a month and covered all insulin products. The cap did not apply to those with private insurance. However, after the law was implemented, insulin manufacturers voluntarily lowered the out-of-pocket cost to $35 a month for people with private insurance.

Democratic lawmaker deflects when asked about Biden's performance

Ali Vitali

Asked by NBC News about Biden's debate performance, a Democratic lawmaker said, "The best thing I can do to help Joe Biden is to pretend I didn’t get your text."

Fact Check

Fact check: Did Trump end catch and release?

"We ended catch and release," Trump said.

Verdict

False.

Analysis

Trump did not end "catch and release," a term used to describe the practice of releasing migrants into the country with court dates while they await court hearings. The U.S. does not have enough facilities to detain every migrant who crosses the border until they can see judges, no matter who is president, so Trump — like Obama before him and Biden after him — released many migrants back into the U.S.

Verdict

False.

Analysis

Trump did not end "catch and release," a term used to describe the practice of releasing migrants into the country with court dates while they await court hearings. The U.S. does not have enough facilities to detain every migrant who crosses the border until they can see judges, no matter who is president, so Trump — like Obama before him and Biden after him — released many migrants back into the U.S.

Trump calls Biden 'a complainer' during closing statement, says we're 'living in hell'

In closing statements, Trump called Biden "a complainer."

He argued that Biden "doesn't do anything" and attacked the president's handling of the southern border and foreign policy.

"For three-and-a-half years, we're living in hell," Trump said.

The former president also argued that the country is witnessing something many times worse than Charlottesville, referring to the white supremacist rally in Virginia that Biden has cited as his reason for launching his 2020 bid.

Biden homes in on taxes in closing argument

In his closing statement, Biden focused on taxes, blaming Trump for increasing taxes and inflation.

"I ask anyone out there in the audience or anyone out there watching this debate: Do you think the tax system is fair?" Biden asked.

He also referred to "the debacle" Trump left behind related to the economy.

Biden ended his statement touting his administration's work to lower drug prices and reduce the federal deficit.

"We're going to continue to fight to bring down inflation and give people a break," Biden concluded.

Biden supporters find a reason to cheer

Gabe Gutierrez

Gabe Gutierrez and Alex Seitz-Wald

At a Biden watch party in Atlanta, some supporters expressed concern about the president throughout the evening. But the party erupted in cheers when he told Trump, “You’re such a whiner." That led to a chant of “Let’s go, Joe!”

Arizona woman complains about Trump's question-dodging

Nicole Aguirre, an Arizona woman watching tonight's debate at a party in Phoenix, said she's been frustrated by Trump’s habit of attacking Biden’s record instead of answering the questions posed by the moderators.

When Trump gave a more direct response to one of the questions, she said: “Look, he finally answered a question!”

That response followed a question about taking a cognitive test.

Trump dodges questions about accepting election results

The moderators were forced to ask Trump multiple times whether he would accept the results of the coming election.

Instead of providing a straight answer, he reverted to a familiar refrain about accepting the results only if the election is "fair and legal."

Fact Check

Fact check: Did the Border Patrol union endorse Biden?

Statement

"By the way, the Border Patrol endorsed me, endorsed my position," Biden said.

Verdict

False

Analysis

The National Border Patrol Council, the labor union for U.S. Border Patrol agents and staff members, has endorsed Trump.

"The National Border Patrol Council has proudly endorsed Donald J. Trump for President of the United States,” the group's vice president, Hector Garza, said in a statement shared exclusively with NBC News.

The union posted on X, "to be clear, we never have and never will endorse Biden."

Biden may have been referring to a Senate immigration bill that he backed, which earned that union’s endorsement.

Verdict

False

Analysis

The National Border Patrol Council, the labor union for U.S. Border Patrol agents and staff members, has endorsed Trump.

"The National Border Patrol Council has proudly endorsed Donald J. Trump for President of the United States,” the group's vice president, Hector Garza, said in a statement shared exclusively with NBC News.

The union posted on X, "to be clear, we never have and never will endorse Biden."

Biden may have been referring to a Senate immigration bill that he backed, which earned that union’s endorsement.

Trump says U.S. is barreling toward World War III

Trump repeated his claim that Biden is driving the country toward World War III.

"We are very, very close to World War III, and he's driving us there," Trump said about Biden, arguing that authoritarian leaders like Kim Jong Un, Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin do not respect nor fear him.

Biden hit back, suggesting that Trump would let Putin "do what you want with NATO."

Biden has made support for Ukraine — and standing up to authoritarian leaders — a major foreign policy pillar of his campaign.

Biden calls Trump a 'whiner' as he taunts him over election loss

Biden said something "snapped in" Trump after losing the 2020 presidential election, leading him to embark on a meritless campaign to hold onto power. Biden continued to prod Trump, twice calling his Republican rival a “whiner.”

“Let’s see what your numbers are when this election is over,” Biden said. “You’re a whiner. When you lost the first time, you continued to appeal and appeal to courts all across the country.”

Were Trump to lose the race in 2024, “I doubt whether you’ll accept it because you’re such a whiner,” Biden jabbed. “You can’t stand the loss. Something snapped in you when you lost last time.”

Biden to Trump: 'Something in you snapped' after losing in 2020

Biden took some of his biggest shots at Trump after the former president refused to accept the results this fall regardless of who won. (Trump said he would only accept "if it's fair and legal and good.")

"You’re a whiner," Biden said. "When you lost the first time ... you appealed and appealed to courts all across the country. Not one single court in America said any of your claims had any merit, state or local, none. But you continue to promote this lie about somehow, there’s all this misrepresentation, all this stealing."

"There’s no evidence of that at all. And I tell you what, I doubt whether you’ll accept it, because you’re such a whiner, the idea if you lose again, you accepting anything. You can’t stand the loss. Something snapped in you when you lost last time," he added.

The moderators then cut to a commercial.

Biden tells Trump he'll golf 'if you carry your own bag'

Addressing questions about his age, Biden tried to mock Trump's fitness but stumbled through an answer criticizing Trump's height and weight.

"You can see he is 6-foot-5 and only 223 pounds or 235 pounds ... well, anyway," Biden said.

Later, he agreed to Trump's challenge of a golf match, on one condition: "If you carry your own bag" (a joke he made earlier this year, too).

Still, Biden's cheeky dig at Trump's golf game may do little to assuage the fears emerging among Democrats that Biden has done little in this debate to tamp down on concerns about his age and mental faculties.

Black voters 'disgusted' by Trump's and Biden's comments on race

Black voters are telling NBC News they’re disappointed in the way both candidates talked about Black people.

Most historically vote for Democrats and say they will vote for Biden despite what they see as a weak debate performance tonight, because they see Trump’s past comments and actions as “racist.”

That having been said, a Black voter in Pennsylvania who said he or she will likely vote for Biden told NBC News, “I’m honestly disgusted by the way both of them speak about the Black community."

"Biden has a better record with the Black community," the voter added. "In fairness, Trump did positive things for the Black community, and he’s strategic enough to appeal to Black voters now.”

It's also striking that Trump revived attacks on Biden and Democrats over the crime bill from the 1990s and some Democrats’ calling Black teens “super predators.” That line of attack was effective against Hilary Clinton in 2016, and it was reportedly a message that was amplified by Russia, which saw the comments as particularly effective in trying to have an impact on Black voters.

Black voters often pointed to Clinton’s statement as a reason for not voting her in 2016, even though she overwhelmingly won the votes of Black voters in that election.

Scores of protesters gather near debate site

Charlie Gile

Charlie Gile and Nnamdi Egwuonwu

About 60 protesters were gathered on 14th Street here in Atlanta, a few blocks from the debate site. 

Trump claims he took two cognitive tests

Trump, responding to a question from Bash about his age, claimed he took two cognitive tests and insisted he was in "very good shape." He also touted his golf game and said of Biden: "He can't hit a ball 50 yards."

The two candidates then briefly bickered about their respective golf handicaps.

Trump invokes imprisoned WSJ reporter Evan Gershkovich

Asked about how he would help people in the throes of addiction, Trump at one point invoked Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich, who is imprisoned in Russia.

"Now we have a hostage, a Wall Street Journal reporter, I think a good guy, and he's over there because Putin is laughing at this guy probably asking for billions of dollars for the reporter," Trump said. "I will have him out very quickly as soon as I take office, before I take office."

There is no indication that Russian President Vladimir Putin would release Gershkovich on Trump's timeline.

Trump defends his tariffs as being tough on China

As Trump attacked Biden for a rising deficit, saying Biden "gets paid by China" and is "a Manchurian candidate," he also defended the tariffs on goods he imposed during his administration.

Those moves have been criticized by some as effectively increasing prices on everyday goods.

"You'll notice [Biden] never took out my tariffs, because we bring in so much money with the tariffs that I imposed on China. He never took them away. He can't, because it's too much money. It's tremendous," Trump said.

Trump and Biden finally go back and forth — over who's the worst president ever

The candidates finally found a subject they really wanted to argue back and forth about — which one is America's all-time worst president.

The moderators had been working to prevent them from having many extended exchanges with each other and have not given them much space to direct the debate themselves.

This was an exception.

After Trump went on an extended monologue about how he believed Biden was America's all-time worst president, Biden cited a ranking by more than 150 presidential historians who rated Trump to be the nation's worst president.

"This shouldn’t be a debate," Trump said as part of his lengthy response. "He is the worst president. He just said about me because I said it. But look, he’s the worst president in the history of our country. He’s destroyed our country."

Biden shot back, asking Trump to "look it up" online.

"Don’t hold me the exact number of presidential historians," he said. (It was 154.) "They’ve had meetings and they voted who’s the worst president in American history, one through best to worst. They said he was the worst in all of American history. That’s a fact. ... That’s not conjecture. He can argue they’re wrong, but that’s what they voted."

In his response, Trump insisted that "we have polling" and "we have other things" that rate Biden "the worst."

"Because what he’s done is so bad," he said. "And they rate me, I’ll show you, I will show you, and they rate me one of the best, OK? And if I’m given another four years, I will be the best. I think I’ll be the best."

Biden hits Trump on tariffs

Biden argued that tariffs serve as a tax on the middle class and criticized Trump's proposed 10% tariff on goods entering the U.S.

Citing economists, Biden said the tariffs would cost families in the U.S., who are "going to have to pay the difference in food."

Biden ally in Congress says it's 'time to talk about' open convention, new nominee

Hallie Jackson

A Democratic member of Congress who has been a solid Biden backer, responding to the president's performance tonight, said it's "time to talk about an open convention and a new Democratic nominee."

Nicholas Kristof calls on Biden to withdraw from race

Expect to hear a lot of concerns about Biden from Democrats and left-of-center thought leaders in coming days.

After watching the first half of the debate, liberal New York Times columnist Nicholas Kristof was ready to call it. "I wish Biden would reflect on this debate performance and then announce his decision to withdraw from the race, throwing the choice of Democratic nominee to the convention," he said on X.

He added that he thought another Democrat, like Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, Sen. Sherrod Brown of Ohio or Commerce Secretary Gina Raimondo, "could still jump in and beat Trump."

Double haters disappointed by both Biden and Trump

Shaquille Brewster

Emma Barnett and Shaquille Brewster

Seth Anderson-Oberman, who voted uncommitted during the Pennsylvania primary, is disappointed by both Biden’s and Trump’s answers to the question about the Israel-Hamas war.

Seth Anderson-Oberman side profile as he watches the debate
Seth Anderson-Oberman.Emma Barnett / NBC News

“I don’t think Biden helped himself with that answer in terms of, you know, attracting the support of younger voters, peace voters, folks who want to see a cease-fire,” he said.

William Latif Little, an undecided voter, is frustrated with the condition of the economy but said he liked Biden’s answer on the economy “because of the hope that he will do the right thing in the next four years.”

Trump can’t stop talking about the border

Whether it's abortion, the economy or firing staffers, Trump continues to bring up immigration and the border every chance he gets. He's repeatedly called Biden the worst president ever, in part, he says, because he has allowed "criminals" into the country.

Trump says Biden should've fired more people

Trump — who was once synonymous with the phrase "You're fired" as host of "The Apprentice" — attacked Biden for not firing more people in his administration.

He went on to say Biden should have fired the military leaders involved in the chaotic U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan, for instance.

"He never fired people," Trump said. "I’ve never seen him fire anybody. I did fire a lot. I fired [FBI Director James] Comey because he was no good. I fired a lot of the top people at the FBI, drained the swamp. They were no good — not easy to fire people."

Biden tried to rebut Trump's 'worst president' attack, but his mic was muted

Biden attempted to push back on Trump’s referring to him as the worst U.S. president, but his microphone was muted. Trump nonetheless acknowledged him and responded to what he said.

Referring to Biden as the "worst president" in American history is a frequent attack by Trump on the campaign trail.

Fact Check

Fact check: Trump says Biden didn't run for president due to 2017 Charlottesville rally

Statement

"He made up the Charlottesville story, and you'll see it's debunked all over the place. Every anchor has — every reasonable anchor has debunked it, and just the other day it came out where it was fully debunked. It's a nonsense story. He knows that, and he didn't run because of Charlottesville. He used that as an excuse to run," Trump said about Biden.

Verdict

False

Analysis

The "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, in 2017 featured torch-bearing white supremacists marching to protest the removal of a Robert E. Lee statue and chanting racist slogans like "You will not replace us." It turned deadly when a car plowed into a crowd.

In recent months, Trump has downplayed that violence, saying it was "nothing" compared to recent pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses.

Meanwhile, Biden has always pointed to Trump's 2017 comments as the primary reason he decided to seek the presidency in 2020, including in his campaign announcement video back in April 2019.

Verdict

False

Analysis

The "Unite the Right" rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, in 2017 featured torch-bearing white supremacists marching to protest the removal of a Robert E. Lee statue and chanting racist slogans like "You will not replace us." It turned deadly when a car plowed into a crowd.

In recent months, Trump has downplayed that violence, saying it was "nothing" compared to recent pro-Palestinian protests on university campuses.

Meanwhile, Biden has always pointed to Trump's 2017 comments as the primary reason he decided to seek the presidency in 2020, including in his campaign announcement video back in April 2019.

Trump fundraising email claims 'I'm kicking Biden's BUTT'

The Trump campaign sent a fundraising pitch shortly after 10 p.m. ET, around the first commercial break, with the subject line "I'm kicking Biden's BUTT."

"This is President Trump, I don’t have much time," the email read. The email continued in all caps, "Despite everything stacked against me, I'm winning."

Trump has leveraged his email fundraising list to fuel his campaign, helping him close the money gap with Biden in recent weeks. Donations have typically spiked around major events in his legal cases, including his recent conviction in the New York document-falsification case.

Biden’s response on Roe: A political miss?

Ali Vitali

Ben Kamisar and Ali Vitali

Biden and the Democrats have made abortion one of the fundamental issues in the 2024 race, noting the ways it’s energized voters in recent elections since the Supreme Court overturned Roe two years ago. But when it came up tonight, Biden spent more time ceding ground than defending the right to abortion access.

Biden reiterated his support for Roe v. Wade, which protected abortion access before viability. But in trying to explain the court's ruling, he put himself on the wrong side of where many in his coalition are.

It’s true that Roe allows states to restrict abortion after viability — a fact glossed over by those who use the tagline “Codify Roe” to call for Congress to pass constitutional abortion protections.

But in saying he backed Roe, Biden shifted the focus to the idea of “late term” abortions — an exceptionally rare practice that’s usually done when the woman’s life is in danger or if an abnormality makes the pregnancy nonviable. Abortion-rights advocates argue that backing restrictions on abortions that late in a pregnancy could hinder doctors' ability to provide care to those who badly need it while also opening the door to restricting abortion broadly.

“Roe v. Wade does not provide for that, that’s not the circumstance, only if a woman’s life is in danger, if she’s going to die. That’s the only circumstance in which that can happen. We are not for late-term abortion, period, period, period,” Biden said when he was pressed about late-term abortions.

“I supported Roe v Wade, which had three trimesters. First time is between the woman and the doctor. Second time is between the doctor and an extreme situation. The third time is between the doctor. I mean between the woman and the state.”

The moment underscores why advocates have whispered concerns about Biden’s being the party’s central messenger on an issue that could turn the election toward Democrats.

Trump says he wants 'absolutely clean air' despite having rolled back EPA rule on emissions as president

Trump was asked whether he planned to take any action as president to slow the climate crisis.

Trump responded, "I want absolutely immaculate, clean water, and I want absolutely clean air. And we had it."

Trump repeatedly tried to undo actions to curtail the effects of climate change during his administration.

In 2020, his administration rolled back an Obama-era rule that required the country's coal plants to reduce mercury and other harmful emissions, and in 2017, he notably pulled the U.S. out of the Paris Climate Agreement aimed at reducing emissions.

Fact Check

Fact check: Biden suggests no troops died under his watch

Statement

"The truth is, I'm the only president this century that doesn't have any this decade and any troops dying anywhere in the world like he did," Biden said

Verdict

False

Analysis

The Defense Department confirmed that 13 U.S. service members were killed in a suicide bombing attack at Abbey Gate at the Kabul airport by a member of ISIS-K as the U.S. was leaving Afghanistan. 

Verdict

False

Analysis

The Defense Department confirmed that 13 U.S. service members were killed in a suicide bombing attack at Abbey Gate at the Kabul airport by a member of ISIS-K as the U.S. was leaving Afghanistan. 

Biden team betting on 'convicted felon' line

The president’s team hopes clips of strong Biden moments will reach a wider audience than the live one that watched the painful first 30 minutes of the debate as it happened.

They think Biden delivered several lines that will resonate with voters. One is: “Only one of us is a convicted felon, and I’m looking at him.”

They also liked the Jan. 6 part of the debate, saying it tested horribly for Trump and well for them, according to someone familiar with the Biden campaign’s internal polling dials, which they are doing in real time during debate.

Trump attacks Hunter Biden's felony conviction and ties his foreign business dealings to the president

After Biden called Trump a convicted felon, Trump took a swipe at Biden’s son Hunter Biden, who was convicted on felony gun charges this month. Hunter Biden has been indicted on tax charges, with a trial expected in September. It’s a strategy Trump’s Republican allies predicted.

“When he talks about a convicted felon, his son is a convicted felon at a very high level,” Trump said. “His son is convicted, going to be convicted probably numerous other times.”

Trump said Biden had escaped scrutiny for his record at the border and as vice president, when Trump falsely accused him of leveraging aid to Ukraine to benefit his son, who served on the board of a Ukrainian energy company. It is an argument Republicans have used as they try to tie Biden to his son's foreign business dealings. Biden has denied any wrongdoing or involvement in his son's business matters.

Trump was impeached in 2019 for pushing Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to investigate the Bidens.

Trump tries to turn Medicare and Medicaid on Biden

Trump hit Biden on Social Security issues, arguing that the president is "destroying Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid."

Trump pointed to migrants, asserting that they are "taking over our schools, our hospitals, and they're going to be taking over Social Security."

Biden said his plan to tackle Social Security was to raise taxes on the very wealthy.

Biden tested negative for Covid, sources say

Kelly O'Donnell

Two sources familiar with the situation told NBC News that "President Biden has a cold."

Biden was administered a Covid test, which was negative, three sources said.

Biden has sounded hoarse throughout the debate.

Biden, Trump spar over record among Black voters

Polls indicate that some groups of Black voters are undecided about whom they'll vote for, and both candidates are vying for their support on the debate stage.

Biden spoke at length about his efforts to eliminate federal student loan debt, provide tenant tax credits and stimulate job growth for Black families.

Trump, in his latest attempt to court Black voters, criticized Biden's record, saying: "He caused the inflation, and it's killing Black families and Hispanic families and just about everybody. It's killing people."

"I gave him a country with no, essentially no inflation. It was perfect. It was so good, all he had to do is leave it alone. He destroyed it," Trump added.

Notably, though inflation has risen under Biden, wages are also up and unemployment is down.

Biden touts 'most extensive' climate change action in history

Biden, defending his record on environmental issues, hailed his administration for achieving the "most extensive climate change legislation in history."

He was referring to the roughly $783 billion in energy and climate change investments that were part of the Inflation Reduction Act, a massive package that he signed into law in August 2022.

Fact Check

Fact check: Trump says Biden allowing 'millions' of criminals to enter U.S.

Statement

“I’d love to ask him … why he’s allowed millions of people to come in from prisons, jails, and mental institutions, to come into our country and destroy our country,” Trump said.

Verdict

There's no evidence of this.

Analysis

Venezuela doesn't share law enforcement information with U.S. authorities, making it very hard to verify criminal histories of immigrants coming to the U.S. But there's no evidence that Venezuela is purposefully sending "millions" of people from mental institutions and prisons to the U.S.

Verdict

There's no evidence of this.

Analysis

Venezuela doesn't share law enforcement information with U.S. authorities, making it very hard to verify criminal histories of immigrants coming to the U.S. But there's no evidence that Venezuela is purposefully sending "millions" of people from mental institutions and prisons to the U.S.

Biden echoes a campaign ad he released today

In his last answer before the first commercial break, Biden echoed a campaign ad he released today related to the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol.

"We saw with our own eyes. We saw what happened on Jan. 6. We saw the people breaking windows," Biden said onstage.

The ad features video from news organizations and security cameras of protesters breaking into the Capitol.

Trump invokes George Floyd protests, inaccurately claims he broke up protests

It’s been four years since protests broke out after the death of George Floyd in Minneapolis in May 2020. Tonight, Trump defended his response to the summer of unrest, including sending the National Guard and federal law enforcement officers to Portland, Oregon, Seattle and Minneapolis. 

“They saw them coming, and they left immediately,” Trump said inaccurately of the protesters. 

Protests continued in Portland for more than 100 days, sometimes dissolving into violence as demonstrators confronted federal police forces. And protesters set up an encampment in the middle of Seattle that remained in place for several weeks.

Muslim community leader: Biden 'seems ill,' is 'struggling'

One of the Muslim community leaders who met privately with Biden in a small group at the White House in April says Biden looks “physically weak and tired” and not as “sharp” as he did during the meeting in April.

The person told NBC News that Biden “seems ill right now."

"He’s struggling, it seems," the person said. "Biden seems more honest and sincere, but still I’m concerned. There is weakness in his voice."

"Trump is sharp, although calculated. He is on message,” the person continued.

The person also said that on Gaza, he or she is worried Trump’s comments mean Israel would kill more Palestinian civilians if he were re-elected. The person said Biden’s comments show he is consistent in the war, but it’s still unclear “what his true red line is when it comes to continuing to send aid to Israel.” The person believes Biden’s three-stage plan shows he is trying to end the war between Israel and Hamas.

Biden's zingers lack some zing

Biden has had difficulty sticking the landing on several familiar attacks on Trump. While Biden has perked up significantly since the first half-hour of the debate, his raspy voice and his tendency to trail off have led to some whiffs.

Trump: 'I didn't have sex with a porn star'

Trump pushed back on Biden's assertion, saying, "I didn't have sex with a porn star."

Biden had accused Trump of having the "morals of an alleycat" for allegedly having sex with a porn star while his wife, Melania Trump, was pregnant.  (Actually, Mrs. Trump had given birth to their son, Barron, four months before the alleged encounter.)

Fact Check

Fact check: Did Trump have 'the safest border in the history of our country'?

Statement

“We had the safest border in the history of our country," Trump said.

Verdict

False

Analysis

This is clear exaggeration. In 2019, the last year before the Covid-19 pandemic brought down border crossings, there were roughly 860,000 illegal border crossings, far more than in any year during the Obama administration.

Verdict

False

Analysis

This is clear exaggeration. In 2019, the last year before the Covid-19 pandemic brought down border crossings, there were roughly 860,000 illegal border crossings, far more than in any year during the Obama administration.

Biden starting to gain his footing

Biden got off to a slow start, but as the debate approaches its halfway point, he's steadying himself and speaking with more force and clarity. "I've never heard so much foolishness," he said in response to one of Trump's answers.

Biden also spoke with conviction about the idea that Trump, if elected, would seek vengeance against his political rivals.

"The idea that you have a right to seek retribution against any American just because you're president is wrong," Biden said.

His campaign was quick to respond to questions about his poor start.

"He has a cold," an aide said.

 

Biden shows fight when talking about Trump's trials

Biden showed arguably his most fight in responding to Trump’s allegations in talking about his criminal convictions and civil cases.

Biden said Trump has the "morals of an alley cat," referred to his felony conviction in his document-falsification trial in New York and the civil judgments against him and alluded to the pending cases against him.

Biden hits Trump on NATO

During an exchange about the war between Ukraine and Russia, Trump said, "I will have that war settled between Putin and Zelenskyy as president-elect. Before I take office on Jan. 20, I'll have that war settled."

Biden answered, "The fact is that Putin is a war criminal." He added: "He wants all of Ukraine. That's what he wants. And then you think he'll stop there? Do you think he'll stop when the, if he takes Ukraine? What do you think happens to Poland, Belarus? What do you think happens to those NATO countries?"

Biden's answer reinforced the notion that Trump frightens NATO leaders who've partnered with the U.S. to supply Ukraine with weapons over the last two years.

Trump said at a rally this year that he would encourage Russia to “do whatever the hell they want” to a NATO country that "didn't pay" enough for defense.

"At this point, our NATO allies have produced as much funding for Ukraine as we have. That's why, that's why we're strong," Biden said.

Biden to Trump: 'You have the morals of an alley cat'

In one of his most forceful moments of the debate so far, Biden accused Trump of poor personal character, referring to his alleged sexual relationship with pornographic film star Stormy Daniels — a story at the center of Trump's recent criminal trial in New York.

"You have the morals of an alley cat," Biden told Trump.

Fact Check

Fact check: Trump said there was 'no terror' during his tenure

Statement

“That’s why you had no terror, at all, during my administration. This place, the whole world, is blowing up under him," Trump said

Verdict

False

Analysis

There were two ISIS-inspired terrorist attacks while Trump was president. The first occurred in October 2017 when Sayfullo Saipov killed eight people and injured a dozen more in a vehicle ramming attack on the West Side Highway bike path in New York City. The second occurred in December 2017, when Akayed Ullah injured four people when he set off a bomb strapped to himself.

Verdict

False

Analysis

There were two ISIS-inspired terrorist attacks while Trump was president. The first occurred in October 2017 when Sayfullo Saipov killed eight people and injured a dozen more in a vehicle ramming attack on the West Side Highway bike path in New York City. The second occurred in December 2017, when Akayed Ullah injured four people when he set off a bomb strapped to himself.

Immigration section devolves into mudslinging

Biden and Trump both claimed to have done a better job at securing the border.

“We found ourselves in a situation where, when he was president, he was separating babies from their mothers, put them in cages, making sure their families were separated,” Biden said of Trump. “That’s not the right way to go.”

The Biden administration has reversed many of Trump’s immigration policies, but he recently made it more difficult for people to claim asylum even as border crossings continue to increase. 

Meanwhile, Trump claimed to have created “the safest border in the history of our country” and accused Biden of allowing criminals and terrorists into the U.S., echoing a familiar refrain from his presidency. 

In attacking Biden’s policies, Trump evoked the death of a 12-year-old girl in Texas. Two migrants from Venezuela were charged with capital murder after authorities found her body; she had been strangled.

Fact Check

Fact check: Trump skipped World War I cemetery visit because the soldiers who died were 'losers'

Statement

Trump "refused to go to" a World War 1 cemetery ... "He was standing with his four-star general" who said Trump said, "I don't want to go in there, because they're a bunch of losers and suckers," Biden said about Trump.

Verdict

True

Analysis

In 2018, during a trip to France, Trump canceled a visit to an American cemetery near Paris, blaming weather for the decision.

But in September 2020, The Atlantic reported that Trump had axed the visit because he felt that those who'd lost their lives and been buried there were "losers." The magazine cited "four people with firsthand knowledge of those discussions."

According to The Atlantic, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In another conversation, The Atlantic reported, Trump said the 1,800 American marines who died were "suckers."

Several media outlets confirmed the remarks, and Trump's former White House Chief of Staff John Kelly also said those specific comments were true.

Verdict

True

Analysis

In 2018, during a trip to France, Trump canceled a visit to an American cemetery near Paris, blaming weather for the decision.

But in September 2020, The Atlantic reported that Trump had axed the visit because he felt that those who'd lost their lives and been buried there were "losers." The magazine cited "four people with firsthand knowledge of those discussions."

According to The Atlantic, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In another conversation, The Atlantic reported, Trump said the 1,800 American marines who died were "suckers."

Several media outlets confirmed the remarks, and Trump's former White House Chief of Staff John Kelly also said those specific comments were true.

Trump deflects responsibility for Jan. 6

Trump was asked about what he would say to voters concerned about Jan. 6.

Trump said that "we were respected" around the world on that date in 2021, which was the day of the attack on the Capitol. He deflected responsibility, pointing to other politicians and officials in office.

Trump also pointed to his words in a speech that day asking protesters to make their voices heard "peacefully and patriotically."

Trump is the first to bring up his own criminal indictments

Trump just briefly referred to his legal issues in baselessly accusing Biden of weaponizing the justice system against a political opponent, a frequent talking point at his rallies and in his post-court remarks.

So far, Biden has not alluded to Trump's conviction in the New York trial related to a hush money payment or the other criminal indictments against him.

Roughly 40 minutes in, Biden still holding his fire on Trump conviction

Biden's advisers said he was prepared to trigger Trump in the debate.

But 40 minutes in, there has been nary a word about Trump’s felony conviction last month, which is central to the case Biden is making against Trump with voters who are wary about Trump's ability to defend democracy if elected.

First mention of Hunter Biden comes from Trump

Trump mentioned Hunter Biden, the president's son who was recently convicted on gun charges in Delaware, during his pushback on Biden's allegations that Trump disparaged soldiers and veterans.

"Fifty-one intelligence agents said that [Hunter's] laptop was Russia disinformation. It wasn't. That came from his son Hunter. It wasn't Russia disinformation," Trump said onstage.

His reference to Hunter Biden and the laptop, which was seized by federal agents and presented as evidence in Hunter's trial, didn't elicit any visible response from the president.

Reproductive rights group leader pushes back on Trump's claim he would support abortion pill

A leader of a reproductive rights group is reacting to Trump's saying he would protect medication abortion.

The person told me: “Trump’s allies at Project 2025 have outlined a plan to revoke approval for medication abortion. His appointed judge in Texas let this case move forward without standing. Trump’s statements have been full of lies and inaccuracies. Voters cannot trust Trump on abortion.”

The person added, “Leaving the issue to the states means letting abortion bans like Texas and Idaho in place with devastating consequences.”

Trump says he can settle war in Ukraine, criticizes Zelenskyy

Trump said Russian President Vladimir Putin's terms to end the grinding war in Ukraine — keeping Ukrainian territory seized by Moscow as Kyiv drops its bid to join NATO — are not acceptable to him.

He went on to say that he would have the conflict "settled" if he wins in November.

Trump then took a shot at Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, deriding him as a "salesman" who he said has taken too much U.S. military aid.

Trump: The world would have been calmer if I were president

Trump is employing a familiar argument when it comes to foreign policy. He's saying Russia would never have invaded Ukraine if he had been president. That's impossible to prove either way, of course.

John Bolton, one of Trump's White House national security advisers, predicted that Trump would trot out this argument.

In an interview before the debate, Bolton said: "Trump’s answer on almost any foreign policy question with respect to something bad that’s happened is that it wouldn’t have happened if he were president."

Fact Check

Fact check: Did Virginia’s former governor support infanticide?

Statement

“They will take the life of a child in the eighth month, the ninth month and even after birth. After birth. If you look at the former governor of Virginia, he was willing to do so, and we'll determine what we do with the baby. Meaning we’ll kill the baby. ... So that means he can take the life of the baby in the ninth month and even after birth. Because some states, Democrat-run, take it after birth. Again, the governor, the former Virginia governor, put the baby down so that we decide what to do with it. He’s willing to, as we say, rip the baby out of the womb in the ninth month and kill the baby. Nobody wants that to happen, Democrat or Republican; nobody wants it to happen," Trump said.

Verdict

False

Analysis

While some Democrats support broad access to abortion regardless of gestation age, infanticide is illegal, and no Democrats advocate for it. Just 1% of abortions are performed after 21 weeks’ gestation, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Trump first made the claim in 2019, after Virginia’s governor at the time, Ralph Northam, made controversial remarks in discussing an abortion bill. NBC News debunked the claim then, reporting that Northam’s remarks were about resuscitating infants with severe deformities or nonviable pregnancies.

Asked on a radio program what happens when a woman who is going into labor desires a third-trimester abortion, Northam noted that such procedures occur only in cases of severe deformities or nonviable pregnancies. He said that in those scenarios, “the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”

Verdict

False

Analysis

While some Democrats support broad access to abortion regardless of gestation age, infanticide is illegal, and no Democrats advocate for it. Just 1% of abortions are performed after 21 weeks’ gestation, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

Trump first made the claim in 2019, after Virginia’s governor at the time, Ralph Northam, made controversial remarks in discussing an abortion bill. NBC News debunked the claim then, reporting that Northam’s remarks were about resuscitating infants with severe deformities or nonviable pregnancies.

Asked on a radio program what happens when a woman who is going into labor desires a third-trimester abortion, Northam noted that such procedures occur only in cases of severe deformities or nonviable pregnancies. He said that in those scenarios, “the infant would be resuscitated if that’s what the mother and the family desired, and then a discussion would ensue between the physicians and the mother.”

Biden calls Trump a 'sucker' and a 'loser'

Four years ago, The Atlantic reported that Trump had derided Americans who died in war as "suckers" and "losers" — comments that Trump and his allies have vehemently denied. Biden referred to those reported remarks in defending his record on veterans affairs, heatedly telling Trump that his late son Beau, who served in Iraq, was not "a sucker and a loser."

"You're a sucker. You're a loser," Biden told Trump.

NBC News' Monica Alba reported ahead of the debate that Biden might use the word "loser" to provoke Trump to lash out.

Trump has called the quote "fake news," but his former chief of staff John Kelly last year confirmed the story was true.

Fact Check

Fact check: Did Biden lower the cost of insulin to $15 a shot?

Statement

"We brought down the price of prescription drugs, which is a major issue for many people, to $15 for an insulin shot — as opposed to $400," Biden said.

Verdict

False

Analysis

Biden capped the cost of insulin to $35 a month under Medicare, not $15 a shot, and some drug companies have matched that cap. The price cap doesn't apply to everyone, however.

What's more, Biden’s also significantly overstating how much insulin cost before this change. A 2022 report by the Department of Health and Human Services found that patients using insulin spent an average of $434 annually on insulin in 2019 — not $400 a shot.

Verdict

False

Analysis

Biden capped the cost of insulin to $35 a month under Medicare, not $15 a shot, and some drug companies have matched that cap. The price cap doesn't apply to everyone, however.

What's more, Biden’s also significantly overstating how much insulin cost before this change. A 2022 report by the Department of Health and Human Services found that patients using insulin spent an average of $434 annually on insulin in 2019 — not $400 a shot.

Trump mocks Biden: 'I don’t know what he said'

Trump has begun mocking Biden's verbal stumbles, beginning a reply to one Biden statement by saying, "I don’t know what he said, and I don't think he knows what he said, either."

Democratic strategist: 'Biden sounds and looks terrible'

A Democratic strategist told NBC News that "Biden sounds and looks terrible."

The source, who was granted anonymity to speak freely, said they think "this is the worst start in presidential debate history for an incumbent."

Incumbents historically underperform in their first debates.

A Biden aide told NBC News that he "just needed to warm up."

So far, it's a disciplined Trump who's shown up.

Reporting from Washington

Heading into tonight, a key question was which Donald Trump would show up. Would it be a disciplined Trump or the Trump we've seen on the campaign trail who goes off on angry tangents?

So far, Trump has been fairly composed in his answers. He's stayed on topic and largely avoided interruptions — helped in part by the muted mic. He's been tough on Biden but hasn't indulged in the personal taunts and insults that are a staple of his campaign rallies.

Trump tries to take credit for the coronavirus vaccine — even as he swipes at Biden for mandating the jab

Trump, whose administration surged resources via public-private partnerships to bring a variety of Covid vaccines and therapeutics to market, has struggled to find a consistent message on the issue as vaccine skepticism spread.

The jab became a potent attack line during the Republican primaries when Florida Gov. Ron De Santis used it to compare his response to the pandemic to Trump's.

Facing off against Biden, Trump took credit for developing the vaccine even as he attacked Biden for what he billed as government overreach that pushed to mandate vaccine uptake.

“I gave him an unbelievable situation with all of the therapeutics and all of the things that we came up with,” Trump said of his administration’s Covid response. “But he had far more people dying in his administration, who did the mandate, which is a disaster, mandating it.”

Trump dips into immigration issue during abortion response

Trump gave a preview of his response to questions about immigration while responding to questions about whether he supports abortion in certain cases.

"We have a border that’s the most dangerous place anywhere in the world, considered the most dangerous place anywhere in the world, and he opened it up, and these killers are coming into our country, and they are raping and killing women, and it’s a terrible thing," he said.

Trump runs into muted mic during abortion exchange

Trump was attempting to respond to Biden's points about abortion rights when his microphone was muted.

Trump's claims about abortion clash with current GOP platform

Trump’s claim that “everybody” wanted abortion to be decided by states clashes with the current GOP party platform, which was crafted in 2016 and re-adopted in 2020 amid the Covid pandemic. That platform calls on Congress to enact a federal ban on abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy.

Trump is doubling down on the messaging that he wants abortion to be back to the states, and he is now saying he would not block access to the abortion pill. But the Biden campaign’s strategy is to tell voters that Trump should not be trusted and that if given the opportunity it would ban abortion nationwide.

Trump says he supports access to abortion pill

The second question came from Bash, directed to Trump: "As president, would you want abortion medication?"

"First of all, the Supreme Court just approved the abortion bill, and I agree with their decision to have done that," Trump said.

He said he also believes in exceptions for abortion.

"I believe in the exceptions for rape, incest and the life of the mother. I think it’s very important," Trump said.

But the Supreme Court didn’t approve the abortion pill. It said the people who sued didn’t have standing, and so it dismissed the case. That doesn’t mean the court condones the pill or will dismiss a future lawsuit.

In fact, not “everybody” wanted to send the issue of abortion access back to the states, as Trump claimed, as evidenced by the ways Democrats have tried — and failed because of congressional realities — to codify Roe at the federal level.

Biden stumbles while speaking about his work on health care

As he was hitting Trump for his administration's tax cuts and arguing that taxing billionaires would eliminate the deficit and fund "child care [and] elder care," Biden stumbled, saying, "Making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person eligible for what I was able to do with the Covid — excuse me — with dealing with everything we have to do with — look — if we finally beat Medicare."

After the question was redirected to Trump, the former president instantly picked up on Biden's stumble, saying, "He's right. He did beat Medicare. He beat it to death, and he's destroying Medicare."

Fact Check

Fact check: Biden did not inherit 9% inflation

Statement

"He also said he inherited 9% inflation. Now, he inherited almost no inflation, and it stayed that way for 14 months, and then it blew up under his leadership," Trump said about Biden.

Verdict

False

Analysis

The inflation rate when Biden took office in January 2021 was not 9%. It was 1.4%. It has risen on his watch, peaking at about 9.1% in June 2022, but by last month had come down to 3.3%. Pandemic-related stimulus policies put in place by both Trump and Biden were blamed, in part, for the rise in the inflation rate.

Blog Post Citations

  1. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Verdict

False

Analysis

The inflation rate when Biden took office in January 2021 was not 9%. It was 1.4%. It has risen on his watch, peaking at about 9.1% in June 2022, but by last month had come down to 3.3%. Pandemic-related stimulus policies put in place by both Trump and Biden were blamed, in part, for the rise in the inflation rate.

Blog Post Citations

  1. Bureau of Labor Statistics

Double hater: 'This is going to be hilarious'

As Biden and Trump walked on the stage, Seth Anderson-Oberman said, “It’s insane that these are our two candidates.”

William Latif Little, who voted for Biden in 2020 and is not sure whom he is voting this time around, said, “This is going to be hilarious”

William Latif Little sits and watches
William Latif Little.Emma Barnett / NBC News

Why is Biden's voice so hoarse?

Washington

Biden has been off the campaign trail and out of public view for days. He’s had a chance to conserve his speaking voice while sequestered at Camp David, prepping for tonight.

So it’s a bit surprising to hear how hoarse he sounds tonight. Whatever points he makes could get lost if viewers have trouble hearing them.

Double hater buries her head in her hands as Biden stumbles over answer

Reporting from a debate watch party in Phoenix

As Biden stumbled while talking about Medicare, Denise Lewis, a double hater from Scottsdale, Arizona, buried her head in her hands.

Denise Lewis puts a hand over her face
Denise Lewis from Scottsdale, Ariz.Alex Tabet / NBC News

Biden skates over Kabul bombing in claim about military deaths

Biden tried to attack Trump on national security by claiming he was the only president in recent history "that doesn't have any troops dying anywhere in the world, like [Trump] did."

Not only is that not true, but it tries to sidestep a potentially significant political weakness for Biden: his administration's oversight of the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

"When he was president, they were still killing people in Afghanistan. He didn't do anything about that," Biden said.

"The truth is, I'm the only president this century that doesn't have any, this this decade, that doesn't [have] any troops dying anywhere in the world like he did."

That's not true. But even if accidents and other non-wartime deaths aren't included, Defense Department statistics show 13 deaths by hostile action in 2021 — the 13 killed in the August 2021 attack at the Kabul International Airport. It's true that the Trump administration set in motion the withdrawal from Afghanistan, but that attack happened during Biden's presidency.

Not only was this a dark period in the Biden White House, the Afghanistan withdrawal was a politically difficult period for Biden, as polling showed his post-inauguration honeymoon ending amid criticism of the handling of the withdrawal.

Candidates go toe-to-toe on inflation

When Trump was asked whether a tariff he proposed would raise costs, he said no. He then turned on Biden, saying he inherited nearly no inflation.

Moments earlier, Biden hit Trump for job loss during his term, reiterating one of his go-to campaign trail lines by comparing him to Great Depression-era President Herbert Hoover.

When Biden took office in January 2021, the Bureau of Labor Statistics found, all items increased by 1.4% before seasonal adjustment.

Biden's voice is noticeably hoarse

The president sounded like he needed a drink of water almost as soon as he started speaking, setting a subdued mood during his opening remarks in a debate at which many had anticipated yelling.

First question goes to Biden on the economy

The first question came from Tapper, directed to Biden: "Since you took office, the price of essentials has increased. For example, a basket of groceries that cost $100 then now costs more than $120, and typical home prices have jumped more than 30%. What do you say to voters who feel they are worse off under your presidency than they were under President Trump?"

Biden answered by hitting Trump's leadership during Covid and the economic downturn that came as a result of the virus.

Biden and Trump don't shake hands

Biden and Trump did not shake hands, bucking the traditional way candidates have opened debates. As Trump walked onstage, after Biden, he barely looked at his opponent.

They did not shake hands in 2020 because of Covid concerns.

Undecided Black Pennsylvania voters say they want economy addressed in debate

Nikki Haley voters ponder their options

Ali Vitali

Nikki Haley voters may be struggling with their options tonight.

So many of them — in Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and beyond — told NBC News the moment they could no longer support Trump was his actions on and around Jan. 6, 2021, be they the election denialism that led to the riot or his hours of inaction as it unfolded.

Many said they would never vote for him again after, in some cases, having voted for him twice, in 2016 and 2020. To those voters, Biden’s focus on democracy is important and could help them make a pick. 

But that doesn’t mean it assuages their concerns about Biden, either, particularly given many of their other ideological differences. It’s a paradox voters have grappled with for months — and it's coming to a head as the general election nears.

Black voters in Philadelphia sound off on what they're hoping to hear tonight

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Anthony Terrell

Shaquille Brewster, Emma Barnett and Anthony Terrell

Reporting from From a debate watch party in Philadelphia

Both Biden and Trump are looking to win over Black voters in Philadelphia to secure their paths to victory. NBC News is watching the debate with a group of Black voters at The Cigar Code in Philadelphia.

All three of the voters cast their ballots for Biden in 2020. This time around, only one of them is currently supporting the president.

William Latif Little is one of those undecided voters who says this debate could be a deciding factor for him. The issue at the front of his mind is the economy — specifically, housing and gas prices.

Cherron Perry-Thomas plans to vote for Biden in November. She said, “There aren’t that many other choices for this [election].”

Perry-Thomas made it clear that Trump is “not an option,” adding she is concerned about some of the think groups supporting him.

Seth Anderson-Oberman voted uncommitted in the Pennsylvania primary and is disappointed with how Biden is handling the Israel-Hamas war.

“[Biden] is not using his full power to push for a cease-fire and peace, and I really need to see that,” Anderson-Oberman said.

The economy is also at the top of his mind.

"I need Biden and the Democratic Party to acknowledge that the economy is not great for working people,” he said. Anderson-Oberman said he feels “gaslit by Democratic Party, who is telling us the economy is great and there are no problems.”

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Lara Trump on her father-in-law's veep pick: 'He's told some people'

Republican National Committee co-chair Lara Trump toyed with the prospect of her father-in-law's vice presidential running mate pick shortly before the debate, telling NBC News: "He's told some people."

Asked by NBC News' Tom Llamas on NBC News NOW's debate pre-show whether she knew whom her father-in-law would pick, Trump responded: "Maybe, maybe not. We play it pretty close in the Trump family."

When Llamas replied by asking, "He's already told people, then?" Lara Trump replied: "He's told some people, yeah."

Biden mocks Trump's baseless claims about drugs

Biden took a swipe at Trump's baseless allegations that the president may be on drugs during the debate.

"I don’t know what they’ve got in these performance enhancers, but I’m feeling pretty jacked up," Biden said in a post on X with pictures of him holding a branded can of water. "Try it yourselves, folks."

A close up of a hand holding a can of water that says "Zero malarkey. Biden. Dark Brandon's secret sauce. Get real, Jack. It's just water."
A can of President Joe Biden-branded water.Joe Biden / X

The Biden campaign is now selling the water cans labeled as "Dark Brandon's Secret Sauce," nodding at the meme embraced by the campaign.

"The secret to a good debate performance? Staying hydrated," the campaign's website says. "Get yourself the same performance enhancers Joe Biden took before going on stage. 100% water, zero malarkey."

How Biden could counter Trump on inflation

Inflation is slowing down, now around a 3.3% annual rate after having reached more than 9% in 2022. Still, grocery prices and shelter costs are more than 20% higher since December 2019, right before the pandemic hit. And Biden has paid a price in the polls, in which voters have regularly given Trump an overwhelming edge. So expect Trump to unload on Biden when it comes to inflation.

But Biden is likely to counter that a second Trump term could pour more gasoline on a so-far subsiding inflation fire. This week, 16 Nobel Prize-winning economists warned that Trump's goals — such as lower taxes on corporations, jacked-up tariffs on imported goods from trade partners and a Federal Reserve chair who favors low interest rates — would create more affordability problems for Americans.

Indeed, the Biden campaign has already seized on the economists' missive this week: "Top economists, Nobel Prize winners, and business leaders all know America can’t afford Trump’s dangerous economic agenda."

More inflation data is due tomorrow morning, by the way. The personal consumption expenditures price index, the Federal Reserve's preferred measure of inflation, hits at 8:30 a.m. ET.

Double hater: Trump and Biden haven't addressed homelessness

Reporting from a debate watch party in Phoenix

Jillian Wilson, 30, who hates both candidates and worries tonight’s debate will be a “hot mess,” said she hopes Biden and Trump discuss the issues affecting her community in Phoenix.

Jillian Wilson.
Jillian Wilson.Alex Tabet / NBC News

“I hope they talk about the cost of living and homelessness,” Wilson said.

“Here in Phoenix, you see people laying on the ground in front of the buildings, in front of businesses, at the train stop, at the bus stops. It’s too hot for people to just be on the streets out here,” she said on a 106-degree day in the Arizona capital.

Wilson is disgruntled that she hasn’t heard from Biden and Trump about their plans to tackle the homelessness crisis.

“I don’t think they talk about it at all,” she said.

Corey Lewandowski: Trump won’t let Biden trigger him

Reporting from the debate in Atlanta

Longtime adviser Corey Lewandowski, who flew with Trump to the debate, said moments before it began that the ex-president won’t let Biden get inside his head and provoke him, as NBC News has reported he will try to do.

“It reminds me of Tom Brady at the Super Bowl," Lewandowski told NBC News. "The other teams always think they’re going to get in his head — they’re going to do some trick play and they’re going to get to him — but the greats always play great. And tonight is a night that’s a big game night, and Donald Trump is ready for it."

“I don’t think there’s anything that Joe Biden could do or say there’s going to throw Donald Trump off his game," he added.

Elise Stefanik posts photo with some rumored running mate contenders — with one notable exception

House GOP Conference Chair Elise Stefanik, R-N.Y., posted a photo on her X account moments ago, showing a gaggle of close Trump allies and potential vice presidential running mate contenders gathered in Atlanta ahead of tonight’s debate. 

Visible toward the center of the group is former GOP Sen. Kelly Loeffler of Georgia, who is hosting a watch party fundraiser tonight.

One notable absence from the picture: Burgum. The governor is however expected to be in the spin room tonight on behalf of the Trump campaign. 

Expect Black unemployment to come up tonight

Atlanta is a bastion of Black entrepreneurship and culture, so expect Trump to use his economic pitch to keep up his attempts to pick off Black voters, who traditionally vote overwhelmingly for Democrats.

Under Trump, the Black unemployment rate fell from 7.5% when he took office in January 2017 to 5.3% in the late summer of 2019, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. That was months before Covid forced millions out of work — disproportionately affecting Black workers.

Biden, meanwhile, can point to the fact that Black unemployment fell to an all-time low of 4.8% in April 2023 after having been as high as 10.2% in April 2021, according to the BLS. The rate has since ticked up, however, to 6.1% last month.

Biden could claim another win, as well. During his administration, as he has routinely pushed for good-paying union jobs, Black union membership rose to 2.26 million as of 2023, according to the BLS. The figure stood at 2.21 million during Trump's first year in office, 2017, and fell during his tenure to 2.06 million in 2020.

Vivek Ramaswamy: Trump ‘has not asked me to be his vice president’

Former Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy said tonight that Trump has not asked him be his running mate.

"We’ve had a lot of conversations about the future. He has not asked me to be his vice president," Ramaswamy said. "Whoever he asks is going to have, I think, a remarkable ability to serve this country and taking that America First agenda even further."

Double hater: Trump's a 'loudmouth' and Biden won't realize if his mic's off

Reporting from a debate watch party in Phoenix

Denise Lewis, 57, is a double hater from Scottsdale, Arizona, who’s leaning toward writing her own name in come November.

Denise Lewis sits
Denise Lewis from Scottsdale, Ariz.Alex Tabet / NBC News

Lewis doesn’t believe CNN’s mute button will have any effect on the outcome of the debate.

“He’s [a] loudmouth. You’ll be able to hear him,” Lewis said of Trump.

“You never know. He might walk over and go to Biden’s mic,” she said.

As for Biden, Lewis thinks he might not even realize his mic has been cut.

“Biden’s not going to realize that his mic is turned off, and then he has to stop talking,” she said.

“I think it’s going to be just awful,” she predicted pessimistically.

Former Nikki Haley voters hoping for 'substance' in tonight's debate

The New Hampshire Primary helped solidify Trump’s path to the Republican nomination while also making it clear that many Republican and independent voters were looking for an alternative in Nikki Haley. So what are those New Hampshire Haley voters watching for during the debate tonight?

Eric Garland, of Ebson, says he wants to see “substance, not theatrics.” He added, "If this becomes a circus, like four years ago, pretty sure Haley voters will turn it off."

Garland, who is leaning toward not voting for either Biden or Trump, made it clear he believes Trump could lose the election if he upsets Haley voters this evening. Garland agrees with Trump’s policies but not his character, and he is debating whether to “vote for the lesser of two evils or write in another in protest [vote]."

Dawn Brockett, of Hampton, says she is “looking for one of them to wow me with intelligence, decorum and substance.”

She plans to write someone in. Asked whether Trump or Biden can do anything to change her mind tonight, she said: “My mind is made up. I don’t like either candidate. The debate, for me, is an opportunity for one of them to talk to me and change my mind. I am doubtful that will happen.”

ChatGPT and Microsoft’s Copilot repeat false debate claim

Two of the most popular generative AI products, OpenAI’s ChatGPT and Microsoft’s Copilot, regurgitated false information about tonight's debate just hours after it first appeared online and was debunked.

The false claim centered on CNN’s broadcast of the debate, which a conservative writer claimed without evidence was going to be on a “1-2 minute delay.” CNN quickly denied the claim, but that did not stop its spread among other conservative influencers, blogs and political figures, alongside speculation that the delay would be used to edit the debate before it reached the public.

Read the full story here.

Biden campaign tops best hour of fundraising — one hour later

The 6-to-7 p.m. hour was the Biden campaign's best grassroots fundraising hour of the 2024 campaign — besting the 5-to-6 p.m. hour, which had been the record hour for grassroots fundraising, according to a campaign official.

The hour-by-hour fundraising updates from the Biden campaign come as Trump's campaign has experienced a windfall of grassroots donations recently, particularly since Trump was convicted on 34 felony counts in New York last month.

The Gavin Newsom show arrives

Reporting from the debate in Atlanta

Gavin Newsom speaks to a reporter
California Gov. Gavin Newsom during an interview in the spin room before the presidential debate on June 27, 2024.John Bazemore / AP

California Gov. Gavin Newsom, a top Biden surrogate, held court in the spin room before tonight’s debate, chasing away disparagements of Biden and unleashing a series of criticisms of Trump.

“This has an impact around the globe. This is about electing the leader of the free world. America matters. It’s about our moral authority, not just our formal authority,” Newsom said.

“You got someone that brings a moral voice in the work as president and someone that did just the opposite and has no moral compass whatsoever,” he added.

Newsom answered questions for so long that his spokeswoman tried to cut the Q&A session off five times. Finally, on the sixth warning, Newsom walked away.

Top Biden official explains why campaign bucked bipartisan debate committee

Michael Tyler, the Biden campaign's communications director, told NBC News that the campaign had a number of "issues" with the bipartisan Commission on Presidential Debate, explaining why it agreed to pull out of the compact, which has hosted every presidential debate since 1988.

Tyler told NBC News Now that the main grievances included that Americans wouldn't have "the opportunity to hear from the candidates before they actually cast their ballots," because the CPD debates didn't begin until after early voting windows opened in some states.

Tyler also panned previous debates as "spectacles," specifically accusing Trump of showing up to the first debate in 2020 "with Covid, trying to interrupt the president [Biden], trying to use these like a spectacle."

Trump revealed shortly after the first debate in 2020 that he had tested positive for Covid. Former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows wrote in his book that Trump tested positive three days before the debate but subsequently tested negative, which Trump called "fake news" in a 2021 statement.

Biden and Trump agreed to two debates this cycle, pulling the rug out from under the bipartisan CPD and making tonight's debate the first general election presidential debate not to be conducted by the body in 40 years.

Why Kennedy isn’t on the stage tonight

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. is spending debate night doing his own thing on X (formerly known as Twitter) instead of onstage with Trump and Biden.

Why? Because the independent presidential hopeful fell short of the criteria CNN established for the event, which mainly required candidates to prove they had ballot access in enough states to mathematically win the presidency and to hit 15% in at least four polls recognized by the network.

Kennedy fell one poll and more than 100 electoral votes short, although he could have a better chance to make ABC's debate in September if he doesn't suffer any ballot access setbacks and can secure enough support in the polls. (Other candidates were even further from making the debate than Kennedy was.)

While Kennedy has cried foul and sought to petition the Federal Election Commission to intervene, he finds himself on the outside looking in tonight.

Biden campaign has its best hour of fundraising

Reporting from the debate in Atlanta

The 5-to-6 p.m. hour before the start of the debate was the “best fundraising hour of the entire campaign,” a Biden campaign official told NBC News.

It raised more money during that hour than any other, including during its launch, Biden’s State of the Union speech this year and the Trump verdict, the official said.

The source argued that it validates the campaign’s belief that many voters, including likely Biden supporters, have yet to fully engage with the campaign.

Biden campaign communications director to accompany him on the trail

Kelly O'Donnell

The Biden campaign's communications director, Michael Tyler, will travel on Air Force One alongside the president as he hits the campaign trail after the debate, the campaign told NBC News.

By deploying campaign staffers to travel with Biden, the Biden-Harris team expects to fill an information gap because “as we get closer to the election, more and more daily conversation is around the election and the politics of the campaign.” 

According to Biden campaign aides, this updated communications strategy will happen with a “regular cadence” but not a set schedule, “as the president is doing more political travel and when it makes sense.” A “rotation” of campaign communicators will participate.

Under a law known as the Hatch Act, federal employees are not permitted to carry out campaign work, including discussing the politics of the election. White House press secretary Karine Jean-Pierre, who typically flies with Biden on Air Force One and Marine One, is barred from discussing campaign issues as a federal worker. Having Tyler travel with Biden will allow the campaign to answer questions directly while Jean-Pierre handles matters involving the administration's official business.

Costs for the use of Air Force One, such as airfare, meals and expenses in using government-owned aircraft, will be paid by the Biden-Harris campaign to relieve taxpayers, campaign officials said.

Biden has the chance to be the first Democrat to confront Trump over Jan. 6

Trump is likely to be confronted for the first time by an elected Democrat over the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol and his role in it when he squares off with Biden.

It wouldn't be the first time he has been pressed about the matter, given that he has dealt with questions from reporters. But Trump hasn't had to deal with a political opponent confronting him face to face on the subject.

Given that Jan. 6 and Trump's effort to overturn the 2020 election are at the center of Biden's campaign messaging, it's likely the president will raise the issue early and often.

Trump avoided an earlier potential direct confrontation over Jan. 6 when he defied a subpoena issued by the House Jan. 6 committee. He has been indicted by special counsel Jack Smith over his role in the efforts to overturn the 2020 election that culminated in the Jan. 6 attack; he pleaded not guilty, but that case has yet to go to trial.

No Biden signs in spin room

Gabe Gutierrez

The Biden campaign plans to forgo the typical postdebate spin room free-for-all by ditching the traditional cardboard signs used to identify surrogates and by also cutting down on their speaking time.

A campaign official says the plan is to send in a team of its top surrogates to deliver brief statements and take just a few questions before they leave. They’ll stand as a group and speak one at a time. 

The goal is to focus on substance and not spectacle, the official said.

'Double hater' predicts ‘hot mess’

Reporting from a debate watch party in Phoenix

A Phoenix woman who could be considered a “double hater” because of her frustration with both major-party choices in the presidential election predicted “a hot mess” at tonight’s debate, telling NBC News she hopes the candidates stick to issues rather than lean into personal attacks. 

“Like, what about what you’re doing for the people? I don’t care about you guys as gossips between each other,” Jillian Wilson, 30, said.

Wilson also described Biden as “tired” and “not being all the way there” and Trump as “off the wall,” anticipating that he would be “basically saying a whole bunch of nothing.”

Tonight's debate the first in 40 years not sponsored by Commission on Presidential Debates

Why is tonight different from all other nights? For starters, this will be the first presidential general election debate since the 1984 presidential cycle not sponsored by the bipartisan Commission on Presidential Debates.

While the first televised presidential debate took place during the 1960 election, there were none during the next three presidential races. So after three more cycles when debate negotiations were left up to the campaigns themselves, the CPD took the reins of the debate process in 1988, according to a history published by the group. The goal was to take the negotiations out of the hands of the campaigns, guaranteeing the American people would see debates and farming out the discussion about the rules and criteria to the commission.

But both the Biden and Trump camps soured on the CPD after the last cycle — the Republican National Committee withdrew from the debates in 2022 and accused it of bias, and the two sides ultimately agreed to debates this cycle not sanctioned by the CPD.

The CPD has defended its role in the process, and it initially announced it would move forward with its plans to hold four debates as planned. But Monday, the CPD said it would release the four college campuses that were picked to hold its debates from their contracts.

Here's whom the Biden campaign will host in the postdebate spin room

The Biden campaign is planning for more than a dozen campaign officials and surrogates to represent the president's re-election bid in the spin room after the debate.

Biden surrogates in the spin room will include Rep. Jasmine Crockett, D-Texas; Sen. Raphael Warnock, D-Ga.; and California Gov. Gavin Newsom.

"Not only are these leaders some of the most effective, trusted voices on the President’s agenda, they also represent our broad, diverse coalition — and will help make sure our message gets to the voters who will decide this election," said Biden communications director Michael Tyler in a statement.

Mary Trump, the former president’s niece, will also be in the spin room. She has forcefully denounced her uncle, saying he “cannot be trusted.”

In a first, the campaign will also host a handful of content creators and influencers.

Top Biden campaign officials will be in the spin room, including Tyler, Quentin Fulks and Rob Flaherty.

Biden posts pictures with supporters ahead of debate

The president posted photos on X of him meeting with supporters before tonight's debate.

Suspect in Arizona election center theft is also a suspect in a burglary at the Arizona State Capitol

The Arizona Department of Public Safety said the temporary election worker connected to the theft of a key and a fob from a Maricopa County tabulation and election center is also the suspect in a burglary at the Arizona State Capitol. The suspect, Walter Alphonso Jamel Ringfield Jr., was arrested June 21.

At a news conference Tuesday, county Board of Supervisors member Bill Gates and Sheriff Russ Skinner provided new details about the alleged theft of a key and a fob from a ballot tabulation center last week. 

The new conference laid out the timeline: The key, the fob and a lanyard were taken from the tabulation center on June 20, and Ringfield was arrested after it became clear that the key and the fob had disappeared and security camera video was examined. 

They said Tuesday that they had yet to identify a motive and that while there’s no evidence the theft was politically motivated, they’re not ruling it out. No one other than Ringfield has been identified in connection with the case. 

In a response to NBC News’ question Tuesday about the potential for the theft to spur a new wave of Maricopa County election-related conspiracies, Gates responded: “We have been subjected to many conspiracy theories over the past few years, which had been debunked time and time again. I certainly hope that people don’t take this incident to spin up new conspiracy theories.” 

Mary Trump: Biden is 'the best president of my lifetime'

The former president's niece, Mary Trump, told NBC News that she believes Biden is "the best president of my lifetime" when she was asked why she is attending the debate.

Mary Trump is joining the Biden campaign in the postdebate spin room.

Biden "had to do so much just to make up for all the egregious assaults on America that my uncle committed, and Donald Trump should never be allowed near the levers of power ever again," she said. "And I just want to do my part.”

Trump exits plane with plenty of advisers but no family

Trump got off his plane around 5:36 p.m. ET, walking down the steps to cheers from his supporters on the ground. He pointed and pumped his fist and then walked to his car — not stopping to make remarks or take questions from reporters.

No other people walked off the plane’s front steps behind Trump. Exiting by the back steps were 2016 campaign manager Corey Lewandowski, longtime adviser Dan Scavino, adviser and RNC official Chris LaCivita, senior campaign adviser Susie Wile, campaign adviser Jason Miller, communications aide Margo Martin, Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida, spokesman Steven Cheung, political director James Blair and deputy campaign manager David Bossie.

NBC News did not spot any of Trump's family members or rumored running mate contenders getting off the plane with him. The motorcade started rolling at 5:38 p.m. ET.

Trump lands in Georgia, briefly greets supporters

Trump exited his plane shortly after 5:30 p.m. ET to the cheers of supporters.

He pumped his fist a few times as supporters chanted his name.

The former president then entered his motorcade.

Steven Cheung, Jason Miller, Susie Wiles, Chris LaCivita and other senior officials exited the plane. Trump's 2016 campaign manager Corey Lewandowski and Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., were also seen getting off the plane.

Will Biden call Trump a felon onstage? Top campaign official says: 'If the shoe fits'

Biden may refer to Trump as a "convicted felon" onstage tonight, Cedric Richmond, a co-chair of Biden’s re-election campaign, told Hallie Jackson in an interview on "NBC Nightly News."

"I don’t think he’s going to gratuitously throw it out there," Richmond said. "He’s called Donald Trump a felon before, so I don’t think that he wouldn’t do it. And if the shoe fits, you wear it, and former President Trump is a convicted felon."

Tune in to NBC Nightly News at 6:30 p.m. ET / 5:30 p.m. CT for more (or check local listings).

Debate spin room to include top VP contenders for Trump

Some of the top contenders to join Trump on the GOP ticket this fall will be in the spin room after tonight's debate: Burgum, Rubio, Vance and Scott.

NBC News has reported that Trump is focused on Burgum, Vance and Rubio as a potential running mate.

Others in the spin room for Trump will include campaign senior advisers Chris LaCivita and Susie Wiles, as well as Stephen Miller, a White House adviser during the Trump administration.

Trump arrives in Atlanta ahead of the debate

Trump's plane has touched down in Atlanta. His plane was greeted by cheering fans decked out in MAGA gear.

Melania Trump's former chief of staff says it would be 'very surprising' if she doesn't attend

It's unclear whether former first lady Melania Trump will attend the debate.

Her former New Jersey chief of staff, Stephanie Grisham, told NBC News today that it would be "very surprising if she didn't attend."

"While Melania can be scarce for regular campaign events, she knows the importance (and significance) of being supportive as a spouse by attending events such as a presidential debate," Grisham said in a text message.

Kristen Welker: 5 things to watch for in the first 2024 presidential debate

The first 2024 debate between Biden and Trump will provide plenty of moments of opportunity and potential peril for both candidates. As the moderator of Biden and Trump’s last debate, I will be watching for some particular exchanges that could sway the small group of undecided voters who will be decisive in the election.

I’ll also be looking for how the rules of tonight’s debate affect how their performances appear to voters and whether that setup introduces new opportunities or perils for them. The decision to completely mute the candidates’ microphones when the other is talking, for instance, is a shift from the first 2020 debate, when insults and interruptions dominated.

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Partygoers near debate hall rally to 'Make America DRUNK Again'

Reporting from Atlanta

The Biden-Trump debate hall is right next to a frat house, where they are partying under a sign that reads “Make America DRUNK Again.”

People can be seen partying in a house under a banner that says "Make America DRUNK Again"
Partygoers at the Kappa Sigma fraternity house at Georgia Tech in Atlanta.Sahil Kapur / NBC News

Trump's niece says 'he must be stopped'

The former president's niece, Mary Trump, slammed her uncle in a statement, saying she has seen his "narcissism and cruelty" her whole life.

"I’m in Atlanta tonight to remind everyone who Donald is as a person and how he would rule as a president because the stakes are far too high for us to get this wrong: We cannot afford to allow Donald Trump anywhere near the levers of power again," she said.

Mary Trump will join the Biden campaign in the spin room after the debate.

She said Trump is "desperate for power" and wants to regain it "purely for his own benefit."

"He must be stopped," she said.

Jill Biden lands in Georgia ahead of debate

Sydney CarruthSydney Carruth is a digital assistant for NBC News.

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First lady Jill Biden touched down at Dobbins Air Force Base in Marietta this afternoon less than five hours before her husband is scheduled to debate Trump in Atlanta. She was greeted in Marietta by a group that included Fulton County Board of Commissioners Chair Robb Pitts; Atlanta Mayor Andre Dickens; former state Sen. Jason Carter, the grandson of former President Jimmy Carter; and Cobb County of Commissioners Chair Lisa Cupid.

House Republicans advance contempt resolution for Biden's ghostwriter

The House Judiciary Committee voted this afternoon in support of a resolution that would hold Biden's ghostwriter in contempt of Congress for refusing to hand over documents and other materials tied to his work on the president's memoirs.

The GOP-led panel advanced the measure targeting Mark Zwonitzer in a party-line vote. The next step would be the House floor, where it must be approved before it can be sent to the Justice Department for further action.

The committee said it had first requested documents and communications related to Biden’s memoirs — “Promise Me, Dad” and “Promises to Keep” — in February, days after special counsel Robert Hur released his report declining to recommend charges against Biden over his handling of classified documents. The committee in March issued a subpoena that the panel said was challenged by Zwonitzer’s attorney.

Fact Check

Fact-check: Is there a lengthy delay on tonight’s debate?

On social media and right-wing blogs, the claim that tonight’s debate will be broadcast on a “1-2 minute delay” has been viewed millions of times and shared among influential conservative accounts, including by the former president's oldest son, Donald Trump Jr. The claim has been accompanied by conspiracy theories that the broadcast would be edited to the advantage or disadvantage of one candidate.

Statement

“BREAKING: CNN will implement a 1-2 minute delay for tonight’s presidential debate instead of the standard 7-second delay, potentially allowing time to edit parts of the broadcast,” conservative X personality Patrick Webb wrote in a viral post that has over 1 million views.

Post on X

Verdict

False

Analysis

CNN spokesperson Emily Kuhn said no intentional delay will be programmed into the tonight’s debate.

Delays are sometimes intentionally introduced to programming that’s billed as “live,” such as some award-shows, but there is no consistent standard practice across network. A “7-second delay” is common on live TV programming, but CNN insists none will be used in this debate.

Verdict

False

Analysis

CNN spokesperson Emily Kuhn said no intentional delay will be programmed into the tonight’s debate.

Delays are sometimes intentionally introduced to programming that’s billed as “live,” such as some award-shows, but there is no consistent standard practice across network. A “7-second delay” is common on live TV programming, but CNN insists none will be used in this debate.

Trump criticizes CNN ahead of the debate

Trump criticized CNN yesterday afternoon when he was asked during a roundtable event whether he thought he would get a fair shot from debate moderators tonight.

"Well, I think you’re looking good for them if they did it. I think probably not," Trump said, adding, "So, am I going to get a fair — probably not — but it would be very good for CNN."

He said he thought "it’d be very good for CNN, actually, in terms of its credibility.”

He called into the roundtable, which his campaign hosted in Atlanta.

Biden, Trump campaigns recruiting rappers to support them

Both major presidential campaigns are recruiting rappers to support them. As first reported by The Shade Room, rappers Fat Joe and E-40 will join Biden and first lady Jill Biden at their postdebate campaign rally in Raleigh, North Carolina, tomorrow.

The Trump campaign, meanwhile, has been enlisting rappers to attend its events in battleground states as it seeks to win over more Black voters.

Biden greets supporters in Atlanta

Biden has arrived in Atlanta for tonight's debate. He stopped outside and shook hands with supporters who were gathered on an Atlanta street outside the hotel where he is staying.

Trump skips traditional debate preparations

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Gabe Gutierrez

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With just hours left until he faces Biden on the debate stage, sources close to Trump told NBC News he remains “confident and relaxed” and expects to emerge victorious this evening so long as "CNN doesn't put their thumb on the scale."

Rather than stage mock debate rehearsals, like the ones Biden has been holding at Camp David, Maryland, for the last week, Trump advisers have said he prefers to prepare in informal settings with aides.

They said Trump frequently makes his case at rallies, fundraisers and other events on the campaign trail. He prefers not to test out his best lines even in informal settings, to avoid sounding rote on the debate stage, sources said.

Trump echoed that sentiment in a Newsmax interview this week, saying, “I think I’ve been preparing for it for my whole life, if you want to know the truth, and I’m not sure you can lock yourself into a room for two weeks or one week or two days and really learn what you have to know.”

Trump's mystery running mate expected to attend the debate, but unclear if Melania Trump will be there

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Gabe Gutierrez

Sydney Carruth, Hallie Jackson, Vaughn Hillyard and Gabe Gutierrez

At a campaign stop in Philadelphia on Saturday, Trump told NBC News he has already decided on his vice presidential running mate pick. That person will be at the debate in Atlanta tonight, according to Trump.

Sources close to some of Trump’s top vice presidential contenders — North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgum and Sens. JD Vance of Ohio and Marco Rubio of Florida — have confirmed they will attend the debate, but none has been spotted at the debate campus in Atlanta as of this afternoon.

It remains unclear whether Trump’s wife, Melania Trump, will be there. The former first lady has not campaigned alongside her husband yet this year.

First lady Jill Biden, who has been a consistent presence on the Biden campaign trail this season, will greet her husband onstage once the debate concludes.

Donald Trump Jr. will not attend because of a family commitment involving his oldest daughter, according to a source familiar with his plans. Eric Trump is not expected to be in Atlanta for the debate, but his wife, Lara Trump, will attend in her official capacity as Republican National Committee co-chair. 

The RNC is hosting a watch party fundraiser in Atlanta because the debate is being held in a closed studio.