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The interwiki map is used by the MediaWiki software to add, remove or update interwiki link prefixes (such as [[w:blah]] to "blah" on Wikipedia). Any Meta-Wiki administrator can edit the interwiki map at Interwiki map/list. It is synced to the Wikimedia cluster upon request through the completion of a Phabricator ticket. Please post comments to the appropriate section (Proposed additions, Proposed removals, Requests for updates, Troubleshooting, or Other discussions); read the boxes at the top of each for an explanation. Completed requests are moved to the archives.

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Proposed additions

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Latest comment: 11 hours ago33 comments15 people in discussion
The Interwiki Map exists to allow a more efficient syntax for linking between wikis, and thus promote the cooperation and proliferation of wikis and free content.

This section is for proposing a new interwiki link prefix. Interwiki prefixes should be reserved for websites that would be useful on a significant number of pages ({{LinkSummary}} can help). Websites useful only to a few pages should be linked to with the usual external link syntax. Please don't propose additions of sites with too few pages or that contain copyright infringing content, such as YouTube. As a guide, sites considered for inclusion would:

  1. be useful on a significant number of pages
  2. provide clear and relevant use to the Wikimedia projects, including the purpose of the site
  3. be trusted not to encourage spam links being added to the Wikimedia projects
  4. not contain malware
  5. be expected to remain working for a long time in the future and not suffer from link rot

Add new entries at the bottom of the section. When requesting a new prefix, please explain why it would be useful keeping the above in mind. Admins, please allow consensus to form (or at least no objections to be raised over a period of a few days) before adding new entries, as once added they are hard to remove from the many copies around the world. Before adding a new entry to the interwiki map, use this tool to check whether any existing page names conflict with the proposed prefix.

Requests for removal should be submitted on the talk page in the removals section and will be decided on by a Meta admin.

Fandom

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fandom.com

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Interwiki request: new

Status:    In progress

An interwiki for Fandom currently exists as wikia: and its alias wikiasite: (along with specific interwikis to certain Fandom-hosted wikis), but there is no alias named "Fandom". Since the site has been renamed, I suggest allowing the new terminology to be used in links as well, to avoid confusion. Thanks, EpicPupper (talk) 00:07, 4 April 2022 (UTC)Reply

@EpicPupper: that seems to be half a story.

I have not buried myself into the history of fandom/wikia ins and outs, so please take a step back and look to concisely re-explain what has happened, what it needing to be achieved, and any politics that are at play so the community can make an informed decision.  — billinghurst sDrewth 03:36, 24 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

@Billinghurst, sure, here is some more information about the rename. In 2016, Wikia, a wiki hosting platform founded by Jimmy Wales and Angela Beesley Starling, underwent a major rebranding effort and changed its name to Fandom powered by Wikia 1. The name change was announced in a blog post on the Wikia website, which stated that the new name better reflected the platform's focus on communities and fan-created content. In a series of later changes from 2019-2021, all wikis migrated from wikia.org domains to fandom.com domains, and the Wikia branding was stripped completely 2. These changes were mostly uncontroversial and there was little negative feedback from the Fandom community following them. (Most opposers softened their tone a couple of years after the transition). Even if the community largely did not support these changes, that is irrelevant in this situation as "Fandom" is ultimately the official name of the website. Hope that helps! I think this change is relatively minor as it is merely adding an alias to the existing link, not a completely new one. EpicPupper (talk) 06:20, 24 December 2022 (UTC)Reply
Fandom is a generic noun - could that be a problem? "fandomcom", "fandomdotcom" or "fandomwiki" would be more specific. whym (talk) 11:34, 30 May 2023 (UTC)Reply
Looking back, my comment above doesn't sound very meaningful. Let me try again. What I'm uneasy about is that this proposal is to replace a proper noun ("Wikia") to a generic noun which happens to be trademarked ("Fandom"). The change will increase ambiguity. It looks like when English Wikipedia moved the article, they added a disambiguation, probably because "fandom" is too ambiguous: en:Wikia→en:Fandom (website). whym (talk) 14:37, 16 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
I don't see the issue that you're trying to solve here and I don't see the ambiguity. If someone is making an interwiki link with the "fandom" prefix it's obvious that they're trying to link to the website containing a massive wiki farm, they're not going to be trying to link to a music album, a documentary or the abstract concept of "a group of fans". 192.76.8.66 16:31, 16 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Concur with 192. I would oppose FandomSite or any alternatives as I believe that they are unnecessary. Frostly (talk) 23:47, 22 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
  • wikia • global-search <= high level of usage, still pertinent link
  • wikiasite • global-search <= high level of usage, still pertinent link
  • fandom • global-search <- noting that existing use may indicate that this is a namespace name, not that such perturb us

 — billinghurst sDrewth 00:15, 11 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

@EricPupper: Why do you have namespace codes w:c: in the proposed prefix ? Can you please provide some sample landing targets? Thanks.  — billinghurst sDrewth 03:26, 16 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
[[w:c:wikiname:Pagename]] is how you link from one Fandom wiki to another.[1] MSMST1543 (talk) 01:11, 25 November 2023 (UTC)Reply
https://about.fandom.com/about says "over 40 million content pages in over 80 languages on 250,000 wikis". The page "The Joker" in the wiki "batman" is at https://batman.fandom.com/wiki/The_Joker. We cannot generate such a url directly with "batman" and "The Joker" in different places so we rely on redirects at Fandom. These both work currently:
I don't know whether both forms work for all Fandom wikis and will continue to work. Considering they ask their own users to write w:c: at [2], I guess it's safest to use that form. We already say https://community.fandom.com/wiki/w:c:$1 for both wikia:, WikiaSite: and Wikicity:, and I haven't heard complaints about broken links. The proposal is simply to add one more prefix for this. The site has been called Fandom and located at fandom.com for years so it seems reasonable. Four prefixes for the same site is a lot but considering their size and Fandom branding, I don't think we should worry about having a fourth prefix. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:15, 22 December 2023 (UTC)Reply
I'm still not sure if the new name is recognized well as a website name, without adding some sort of disambiguation. "Wikia" had 13 years (2006-2019), while "Fandom" had 8 years (2016-2014), according to en:Fandom (website). Maybe revisit in a few years? whym (talk) 10:08, 1 March 2024 (UTC)Reply
I should have written 2016-2024 instead of 2016-2014. Sorry if that was confusing. whym (talk) 10:26, 4 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
Interwiki.list is behind even the Fandom updates. I'll handle that, but any further changes here should probably be propogated there. * Pppery * it has begun 18:42, 26 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
This looks fine to add to me. I'll submit it though code review to update interwiki.list first, though. * Pppery * it has begun 19:22, 2 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
This was added to interwiki.list. Now fine to add to Meta as well. I agree "fandom" by itself is clear enough. * Pppery * it has begun 05:13, 4 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Miraheze

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miraheze.org

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Interwiki request: new

Status:    In progress

Previously discussed in 2019, 2022 and 2023. The major reason against it is it is run by John F. Lewis, a WMF-banned user; this is no longer true since control of Miraheze has beed handed to another US entity (and John has resigned in March 2023). So we may reconsider it.--GZWDer (talk) 05:04, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Is it being sufficiently used to be reconsidered? While the ban aspect may be a consideration, the primary consideration is that it is needed.  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:44, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
Based on LinkSearch I see enough uses. I won't add this myself since I'm a contributor to Miraheze, but an addition is warranted. * Pppery * it has begun 00:05, 29 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
But we definitely should wait until Miraheze decides whether to rename itself to WikiTide first, so we don't have to go through this process again if they decide to. * Pppery * it has begun 19:25, 2 May 2024 (UTC)Reply
It looks like the plan to rebrand has been "Indefinitely postponed", so this should be good to go. * Pppery * it has begun 17:52, 5 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wikimedia API Portal

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Interwiki request: new

Status:    On hold

The Wikimedia API Portal is a wiki that documents various APIs around Wikimedia projects. It seems to make sense to not display them as external links. — The preceding unsigned comment was added by Denny (talk) 18:45, 11 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

I suggest wmapi. Nardog (talk) 12:15, 12 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Would recommend waiting for the outcome of T358303 first. * Pppery * it has begun 00:06, 29 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

shoutwiki

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shoutwiki.com

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Included in default interwiki map as shoutwiki:. ShoutWiki is a wiki farm hosting over 13,000 wikis, most licensed under CC BY-SA. Top 40 Wikipedias have over 500 links to them. Any wiki can be reached using link http://www.shoutwiki.com/wiki/w:subdomain:page. 01miki10 (talk) 13:08, 16 May 2020 (UTC)Reply

Comment Comment - If we are making an interwiki for this, then we might use one for mw:Miraheze too. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by LightningComplexFire (talk) 18:19, 25 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
Miraheze is unlikely to be added per Talk:Interwiki_map/Archives/2019#Miraheze. —MarcoAurelio (talk) 14:33, 27 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
This section was archived on a request by:  — billinghurst sDrewth 10:07, 17 May 2021 (UTC)Reply
Restored from archive since this was archived without resolution. Either it should be removed from the default interwiki map or it should be added to the local one - it's bizarre for something to be in the default map but not the local one. No opinion on which. * Pppery * it has begun 19:35, 25 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Leaning toward "add here" since there seem to be hundreds to thousands of uses. * Pppery * it has begun 00:23, 13 July 2024 (UTC)Reply

dcwwiki.org

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dcwwiki.org

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Interwiki request: new

Status:    In progress

Revisiting this old request once again to propose the addition of :dcw to support Deoband Community Wikimedia. Our website uses MediaWiki software and the interwiki shortcut would make the link sharing very easier and much convenient. It currently has 51 links on Commons (many aren't shown due to a bug in LinksCard Extension), 8 on English Wiki, 426 on Meta, 39 on MediaWiki, and 14 on Wikidata according to this. We believe that having the interwiki shortcut would grow it more. Kind regards, signed, Aafi (DCW) (talk) 05:49, 17 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Notes to self for the future
Despite looking like one "dcw:" is not a valid ISO language code so we don't have to worry about collisions with a dcw.wikipedia.org
Previous discussion at Talk:Interwiki_map/Archives/2023#hour.dcwwiki.org
There don't appear to be any conflicting titles.
Thoughts from others on whether this is warranted would be welcome. * Pppery * it has begun 19:42, 17 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for adding the link of previous discussion. Pinging @Whym from there in case they have any input on this new request. signed, Aafi (DCW) (talk) 18:56, 29 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Proposed removals

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Latest comment: 5 days ago16 comments3 people in discussion
This section is for proposing that a prefix be disabled; please add new entries at the bottom of the section. Remember to explain why it should be disabled, particularly in view of the difficulty involved in correcting any use of the prefix (to generate a list of pages to fix: toollabs:pirsquared/iw.php). Please add {{Interwikicheck|interwiki code}} to top of the new section.

Interwiki map entries should generally be removed if the site (or the specific part of the site being linked to) is dead, broken, no longer hosts the content that was intended to be linked to. Legacy interwiki prefixes that never had any non-trivial uses at all can also be removed.

Interwikis that would otherwise be removed but had too many uses to clean up may be repointed to Interwiki map/discontinued.

When removing a prefix, also check if it's in interwiki.list (the default interwikis added by the installer when a new MediaWiki wiki is installed). That file is managed via Gerrit.

Completed requests are marked with {{done}} or {{not done}} and moved to the archives.

aquariumwiki

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Interwiki request: remove

Status:    In progress

This is a tricky one. The wiki it points to is overrun by spambots, but it does still have some useful content, and is used in a bunch of places. We could just take no action. * Pppery * it has begun 03:27, 23 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

git

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Interwiki request: remove

Status:    In progress

Conflicts with language code. See phab:T360792. Has 700 uses so cleanup would be a pain, and this is a very theoretical issue and probably not going to come up, so feel free to decline this, but putting it here for the record. * Pppery * it has begun 04:41, 29 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

I would be okay leaving it in place for now, but with the understanding that if a git language project materializes, developers are on the hook of migrating even more links in the future. Legoktm (talk) 04:31, 9 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
On the other hand it's better practice to link to "gerrit:" anyway now that Wikimedia Gitlab et. al are a thing.
Still, there's no urgency here (as you can see from the fact that I let this lapse for six months without action), and this was largely a procedural filing, so I'm fine with leaving as is for now. * Pppery * it has begun 04:27, 24 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

zum

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Interwiki request: remove

Status:    In progress
  • related Wikidata item:

Conflicts with language code. See phab:T360792. Has 100 uses so cleanup would be a pain, and this is a very theoretical issue and probably not going to come up, so feel free to decline this, but putting it here for the record. * Pppery * it has begun 04:44, 29 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

It's highly unlikely I will take the initiative here unless actual effort toward creating a Kumzari Wikipedia happens. If someone else does the cleanup they could convince me to remove. * Pppery * it has begun 22:36, 24 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

aew

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Interwiki request: remove

Status:    In progress
  • related Wikidata item:

Conflicts with language code. See phab:T360792. Relatively low use so not sure this meets the criteria for an interwiki anyway and may warrant total removal. * Pppery * it has begun 04:49, 29 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

This also conflicts with All Elite Wrestling shows (I fixed three different articles that intended to link to that) and the target site is largely dead. Now definitely in favor of removal, but ideally someone who speaks Arabic would to clean up the remaining uses first. * Pppery * it has begun 21:16, 1 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
I've cleaned up a bunch of uses on mainspace pages in Arabic Wikipedia with an edit summary pointing to this discussion. Will remove the next time I get around to doing interwiki map stuff unless there are any objections. * Pppery * it has begun 04:03, 24 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

twl

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Interwiki request: remove

Status:    In progress
  • related Wikidata item:

Conflicts with language code. See phab:T360792. Surprisingly few uses so suggest renaming to something longer. * Pppery * it has begun 04:49, 29 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

See Talk:The Wikipedia Library#Rename twl interwiki. * Pppery * it has begun 21:14, 1 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Pppery I don't mind this being updated to something else, it seems sensible to avoid language codes. Do you have any suggestions for a new prefix? wikipedialibrary: perhaps? Not sure if that would be too long. Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 13:28, 30 July 2024 (UTC)Reply
The English Wikipedia page en:Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Library lists the following shortcuts. w:WP:TWL, w:WP:LIB, w:WP:LIBRARY, w:WP:WIKILIB. "twl" is the current prefix. "Lib" has the same problem (w:Likum language). "Library" probably doesn't work because there are two other libraries on the interwiki map. That leaves only "wikilib" which is awkward and rarely used. Another possibility, in addition to that and the full name, is "wplibrary". * Pppery * it has begun 15:13, 2 August 2024 (UTC)Reply
@Pppery wplibrary sounds good to me :) Samwalton9 (WMF) (talk) 16:09, 23 September 2024 (UTC)Reply
I've added "wplibrary" as a prefix, while leaving "twl". I'll copy over all uses and remove it the next interwiki update cycle (which probably won't be for a while). * Pppery * it has begun 04:06, 24 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
Cleaned up a bunch of uses. Although now that I think about it it might make more sense to just leave both until a Shona Wikipedia actually approaches happening - incubator:wp/twl doesn't exist and the language isn't even enabled on translatewiki. * Pppery * it has begun 22:27, 24 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Requests for updates

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Latest comment: 6 days ago17 comments5 people in discussion
This section is for requesting update for an existing interwiki. This could be needed if your site's URL has changed. Please add new entries at the bottom of the section.

When updating a prefix, also check if it's in interwiki.list (the default interwikis added by the installer when a new MediaWiki wiki is installed). That file is managed via Gerrit.

HammondWiki

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www.dairiki.org/HammondWiki/

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HammondWiki • global-search

Current URL pattern

http://www.dairiki.org/HammondWiki/index.php3?$1

Proposed URL pattern

https://www.dairiki.org/HammondWiki/index.php3?$1

This site supports https, so it would probably be a good idea for the interwiki mapping to be updated to use it.

I do question whether this interwiki is actually worth keeping, according to Interwiki map/detailed table this interwiki had 4 uses in 2019, it's on a very niche topic and the project looks fairly dead - There have been no edits at all in the last 90 days. 192.76.8.66 18:29, 11 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

One use. Recommend removal.  — billinghurst sDrewth 23:30, 11 August 2023 (UTC)Reply
Also needs to be removed from interwiki.list. * Pppery * it has begun 19:35, 25 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Updated to HTTPS. I'm inclined to keep this for historical value, since it's been around since 2001 and is used on the Nostalagia Wikipedia (!), but could be convinced to remove it. * Pppery * it has begun 20:18, 28 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Updated further to https://www.dairiki.org/HammondWiki/$1. * Pppery * it has begun 01:13, 29 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

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 Interwiki.list was updated to HTTPS in gerrit:1026917. This can be resolved now unless we want to consider removal. * Pppery * it has begun 17:10, 3 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Baden

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Interwiki request: update

Status:    In progress

Update to https as it is supported. Again, I really do question whether we need an interwiki to a site that covers only one town - it doesn't seem like it would ever see much use. 192.76.8.66 15:32, 23 August 2023 (UTC)Reply

Updated. Has 15 total uses, most of which are files on Commons. Probably warrants removal. * Pppery * it has begun 23:43, 28 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
Cleaned up all significant uses. Will remove in the next cycle. * Pppery * it has begun 04:25, 24 October 2024 (UTC)Reply

Wikimedia Quality

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Interwiki request: Redirect..?

Status:    In progress
  • related Wikidata item: [[d:Special:EntityPage/{{{ITEM}}}|{{{ITEM}}}]]

I noticed this as an entry at w:Help:Interwiki linking#Interwiki linking from and within Wikimedia, it's a closed wiki, all it gives you is a page with a manual redirect. Whatever way the {{Interwiki request}} template parses sort-of-kinda-internal URLs, it hates this one.

It has a "longform" IW link - [[quality:]]

Following the most relevant option at the redirect you end up at Wikiquality/Portal (actually located here on meta-wiki), which is itself a vestigial page with the {{historical}} template applied.

So, obviously not important, but maybe the target should be changed to save people the extra click.

One cookie (talk) 20:14, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

Why would we need a shorthand to link to a closed wiki that has basically no content? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 20:25, 24 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
We don't, but that is what we have already. It exists, I'm not requesting that it be created.
There's basically no content at the Special:AllPages link for the wiki because "this wiki has been closed and its content has been moved to meta.wikimedia.org". Some of the content you're looking for is at the correct address for the shortcut's target, meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikiquality/Portal - but, since most of the content created for the project was as articles for a mailing list, the bulk of it is at listarchive:list/wikiquality-l@lists.wikimedia.org/latest.
The project was seen as important, enough so that it was given a shortcut link, and its link was used as one of the 29 examples of prefix codes included at w:Help:Interwiki linking, so what we currently do actually have is a shorthand link which: has been used, can be found on pages of projects which are not closed and which will be seen by users, was functional when it was used, is now broken and points to a dead page.
The shortcut should either be fixed or removed from that list, but removing it from that list won't remove it from anywhere anyone's ever used it, where it will remain an annoying broken link! One cookie (talk) 14:38, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply
"The shortcut should either be fixed or removed from that list". 100% agreed. I'd lean toward remove, as the quality wiki was closed a long time ago and I doubt there are any/many links, but that can be checked. Thorough response: thanks. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 17:54, 25 February 2024 (UTC)Reply

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 I've fixed the template above. Don't feel comfortable removing this because we currently have a convention that each Wikimedia project has an interwiki link, which I don't want to break. I.e aa: exists too despite pointing nowhere. * Pppery * it has begun 23:59, 28 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

dict, dictionary

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dict • global-search dictionary • global-search

Currently points to a third-party dictionary. I just cleaned up several uses on enwiki that clearly intended to point to Wiktionary instead, and I would suggest these interwikis be updated in the same way to reduce confusion. * Pppery * it has begun 02:21, 23 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Dictionary is also in the default interwiki map for new wikis (https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki/blob/master/maintenance/interwiki.list). * Pppery * it has begun 18:56, 25 April 2024 (UTC)Reply
I updated these to HTTPS in the mean time. * Pppery * it has begun 17:12, 3 May 2024 (UTC)Reply

Troubleshooting

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Latest comment: 6 months ago1 comment1 person in discussion
This section is for comments related to problems or corrections with the interwiki map (such as incorrect syntax or entries not functioning). This is not the section to request that a prefix be disabled (see Proposed removals above).

imdb

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Interwiki has diverged between the map here and interwiki.list. Interwiki.list currently has one "imdb" prefix going to http://www.imdb.com/find?q=$1&tt=on . Meta interwiki map currently has several (IMDbName, IMDbTitle, etc.). Presumably one of these should be updated to match the other one, but which? * Pppery * it has begun 19:35, 25 April 2024 (UTC)Reply

Other discussions

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