Wikidata:Property proposal/eligible award recipient

eligible recipient

Originally proposed at Wikidata:Property proposal/Generic

Done: eligible recipient (P8115) (Talk and documentation)

Data type	Item
Template parameter	similar, but not identical to Current champions in w:en:Template:Infobox football tournament
Domain	item; applies to sporting events, games, competitions, artistic awards, academic awards, etc.
Allowed values	classes of persons, groups, or things: athletes, sport teams, films, academics, etc.
Example 1	FIFA World Cup (Q19317) → national association football team (Q6979593)
Example 2	FIBA EuroBasket (Q193141) → national basketball team (Q46351685)
Example 3	Fields medal (Q28835) → human (Q5) with qualifier occupation (P106) = mathematician (Q170790)
Example 4	Academy Award for Best Picture (Q102427) → film (Q11424); (similarly for other Academy Awards: Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor (Q106291) → human (Q5) with qualifier occupation (P106) = film actor (Q10800557); and several more
Planned use	Show who can participate in a competition that gives awards, such as championships, award shows, academic contests, annual prizes, etc.

Motivation

My initial motivation was the infoboxes for sporting events in the Hebrew Wikipedia. They have a field similar to "Current Champion" in w:en:Template:Infobox football tournament. The infobox in general can be used for various kinds of events, but "Current Champion" could be named differently in different events, according to gender of "champion", "winning person", "winning team", etc. I also noticed that the Catalan Wikipedia, which uses Wikidata-driven infoboxes a lot, doesn't have such a field, and I suspect that the lack of such a property is at least part of the reason for this, but User:Amadalvarez can correct me if I'm wrong :)

More broadly, this can be used to define who the award is for, which sounds like relevant information that could be used for many things.

Somewhat similar properties:

category for recipients of this award (P2517): This one doesn't fit the need perfectly for two reasons:
1. It's too Wikipedia-centric, and it would be better to have something more generic.
2. It's for those who actually won the award and not for those who are eligible to win it or compete for it.
participant (P710): This one is for those who actually took part in something, even without winning, whereas I am looking for a property for someone who could take part.

I'm filing this under "generic" because it could be in several categories, such as "sports" and "creative work". --Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} talk 20:57, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion

Support - Seems useful. I'm just thinking if there is some other way of wording this so it could be used more broadly, for things that are not awards, but do have eligibility criteria. Maybe something like 'eligible recipient for this object'. Husky (talk) 21:04, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support I agree with Husky that a broader, more generic scope would be useful. I'm specifically thinking of stipends, grants, scholarships, etc. Moebeus (talk) 21:08, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment - Maybe we shouldn't make this more difficult than it is and simply call it 'eligible recipient'. Husky (talk) 22:14, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

+1. I have been bold, and made this change above. A synonym might be "eligible contender". Jheald (talk) 19:51, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Husky (talk) 09:40, 9 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support surely look like something useful that can help us a lot in some projects in Hebrew Wiki. בורה בורה (talk) 21:18, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Support Dear Amire80, thanks for your reference to our Infoboxes. However, our sport related infoboxes are really poor, not only by this useful property, but for some others that are not availabel yet. Salut ! Amadalvarez (talk) 22:37, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Notified participants of WikiProject Sports

Notified participants of WikiProject Award

Comment This proposal has some interest, but I'm not entirely convinced by the way things are combined, e.g.

in other properties, we differentiate between "competitions" and "awards". Naming this "eligible award recipient" and applying it to sports would blur that.
For sports competitions, we have some properties to define who can compete (e.g. competition class, minimum age), but maybe not everything is covered.
For many awards, I think main subject (P921) can do. If it's for a work in mathematics, it doesn't really matter if the recipient is a mathematician or generally seen as a physicist by mathematicians: eligible may be any human with meeting some other criteria (P27?)
The Academy Awards (Q19020) sample given above has another problem: it's for a class of film awards, not an individual award
maybe we should differentiate by hard participation criteria (e.g. as does right to vote (P2964) or age of candidacy (P2998), competition class (P2094)), qualities people involved generally have (e.g. has does sport (P641) or members have occupation (P3989) ), and the objective ("best film", "most points in competition", etc.)

--- Jura 10:34, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Comment When you say "It's for those who actually won the award and not for those who are eligible to win it or compete for it." you can´t use winner (P1346)? Thanks --Vanbasten 23 (talk) 10:37, 6 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I mean that category for recipients of this award (P2517) is for those who actually won the event. The new property that I am proposing is for the class of people, groups, or things that can participate, and not only for the winners. --Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} talk 06:41, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Useful for queries too, eg "What are all the awards we know about for actors". For science awards in particular specialties, eg E. Bright Wilson Award in Spectroscopy (Q3910497), we should encourage the particular area of specialism to be given with a field of work (P101) qualifier. Jheald (talk) 19:57, 8 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support 轻语者 (talk) 08:57, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support I like the idea of using a class like this, there are probably a number of other situations like this, I'll have to keep it in mind! ArthurPSmith (talk) 18:36, 10 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support.--Arbnos (talk) 19:31, 11 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Comment I removed "ready". The comment about the Academy Award sample hasn't been addressed. --- Jura 09:02, 13 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, Jura1: Individual award items can include it: Academy Award for Best Picture (Q102427), Academy Award for Best Supporting Actor (Q106291), etc. --Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} talk 12:20, 15 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- I think it should be removed from the class and the individual awards correctly defined. --- Jura 12:47, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
What do you mean by "it should be removed from the class"? Isn't it what I propose already? --Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} talk 12:54, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Jura, I'd love to know your answer :) --Amir E. Aharoni {{🌎🌍🌏}} talk 19:45, 28 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Amire80: Seems to be have been changed by now. My comments generally address the proposal in the state is when I write them. ;)
BTW Some awards are for specific works by recipients (as opposed to Fields medal (Q28835)). How is this specified (e.g. Oscars)? --- Jura 04:09, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@Amire80, Husky, בורה בורה, Amadalvarez, Jura1, Vanbasten 23: Jheald, 轻语者, ArthurPSmith, Arbnos: Done --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 18:29, 18 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- @Tinker Bell: why did you change the label back? --- Jura 04:09, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - @Jura1: I didn't noticed the link to create a ready proposal doesn't use the proposal's title, but the proposal's pagename. Anyway, I restored it. --Tinker Bell ★ ♥ 04:23, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]