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Does this word really exist? There are no other entries in the other versions of Wiktionary. I have checked Genius (6th edition), OLEX (2nd edition) and Progressive (4th edition), these are one of the most popular English dictionaries in my locality, but I cannot find such word. If possible, I think this entry should be protected to prevent future creations. MathXplore (talk) 10:57, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- Deleted. Minorax (talk) 11:00, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
- The article has been created again with no improvements and references. I believe this entry must be protected. MathXplore (talk) 09:09, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- Done.--Brett (talk) 10:38, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- Looks like full-protection is needed. MathXplore (talk) 09:45, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- You made it edit-protected and move-protected, but it needs to be create-protected. Lights and freedom (talk) 17:30, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- That's right. In addition, I think the creator should be blocked. He's not here to build Wiktionary. MathXplore (talk) 08:10, 18 March 2023 (UTC)
- You made it edit-protected and move-protected, but it needs to be create-protected. Lights and freedom (talk) 17:30, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- Looks like full-protection is needed. MathXplore (talk) 09:45, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
- Done.--Brett (talk) 10:38, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- The article has been created again with no improvements and references. I believe this entry must be protected. MathXplore (talk) 09:09, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
Global ban proposal for Piermark/House of Yahweh/HoY
[change]There is an on-going discussion about a proposal that Piermark/House of Yahweh/HoY be globally banned from editing all Wikimedia projects. You are invited to participate at Requests for comment/Global ban for Piermark on Meta-Wiki. Thank you! U.T. (talk) 12:36, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
New special page to fight spam
[change]Please help translate to your language
Hello, We are replacing most of the functionalities of MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist with a new special page called Special:BlockedExternalDomains. In this special page, admins can simply add a domain and notes on the block (usually reasoning and/or link to a discussion) and the added domain would automatically be blocked to be linked in Wikis anymore (including its subdomains). Content of this list is stored in MediaWiki:BlockedExternalDomains.json. You can see w:fa:Special:BlockedExternalDomains as an example. Check the phabricator ticket for more information.
This would make fighting spam easier and safer without needing to know regex or accidentally breaking wikis while also addressing the need to have some notes next to each domain on why it’s blocked. It would also make the list of blocked domains searchable and would make editing Wikis in general faster by optimizing matching links added against the blocked list in every edit (see phab:T337431#8936498 for some measurements).
If you want to migrate your entries in MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist, there is a python script in phab:P49299 that would produce contents of MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist and MediaWiki:BlockedExternalDomains.json for you automatically migrating off simple regex cases.
Note that this new feature doesn’t support regex (for complex cases) nor URL paths matching. Also it doesn’t support bypass by spam whitelist. For those, please either keep using MediaWiki:Spam-blacklist or switch to an abuse filter if possible. And adding a link to the list might take up to five minutes to be fully in effect (due to server-side caching, this is already the case with the old system) and admins and bots automatically bypass the blocked list.
Let me know if you have any questions or encounter any issues. Happy editing. Amir (talk) 09:41, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
This user is a vandal who has been indefinitely blocked on the Simple English Wikipedia. They have made two changes to this project so far. Both were vandalism. QuicoleJR (talk) 00:04, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
- Update: He was global locked. QuicoleJR (talk) 02:16, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
Imported category-related templates/modules from English Wiktionary
[change]I noticed that templates/modules aimed for enwikt categorization has been imported to here without attributions. I think they were made for enwikt but not for our project. Is there any way to use these things in our project? MathXplore (talk) 07:43, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
- Don't really see a need for these. Other stuff should be nuked as well. Minorax (talk) 10:47, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
- Agreed.--Brett (talk) 11:06, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
User who has been blocked from enwiki and simplewiki has recently joined here and seems to be doing the exactly same thing at our project. I think our admins should decide if they can continue to make changes at Simple English Wiktionary. MathXplore (talk) 01:28, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
- Blocked. Minorax (talk) 02:31, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
Vandalism-only account. --Leonidlednev (talk) 23:00, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
- Blocked. Minorax (talk) 01:40, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
This user does not seem to be here for joining the dictionary project. Should we send warnings or is there anything else to do? MathXplore (talk) 06:44, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
- Warned for now. Minorax (talk) 09:37, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
Dear admins, please have a look at their creations, names of languages or places should be OK, the question is for the others. They seem to be non-English terms, maybe out-of-scope materials, and similar to Wiktionary:Requests_for_deletion#Haoreima's_creations. On the other hand, the words come from regions where English is widely used, so maybe some of them can be counted as part of English. How should we do with these entries? MathXplore (talk) 03:04, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- Deleted some. Minorax (talk) 03:13, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for the reviews. MathXplore (talk) 03:24, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
Off-topic templates by Special:Contributions/Celeste369
[change]Dear admins, I have noticed that the changes from this user are just welcoming others or making off-topic templates (templates without direct connection to the dictionary project) no contributions to mainspace Wiktionary contents, how should we deal with this? Should we continue to allow template creations for a while, send warnings, or proceed to further actions? What would be the most reasonable option? MathXplore (talk) 02:51, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
- Nuked. Thanks for reporting. Minorax (talk) 04:02, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
Requests from last year are still remaining. I think these can be archived. MathXplore (talk) 13:28, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Done. Minorax (talk) 13:31, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
- Thank you for the reactions. MathXplore (talk) 03:59, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
Vandalism
[change]Anonymous user repeatedly placed image of penis on today's Foreign Word of the Day: غلغلستان CalevY (talk) 01:57, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- (non-admin comment) Welcome to Simple English Wiktionary, our admins cannot handle English Wiktionary incidents unless they have permissions to do that. Please use English Wiktionary noticeboards to report such cases. MathXplore (talk) 03:59, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
Suggestion of using AN edit notice to tell that this is NOT English Wiktionary
[change]The recent posts at our noticeboard (special:diff/515261, special:diff/515423) suggests that some editors may have thought that this is English Wiktionary's noticeboard. I think our noticeboard needs edit notice (or a reminder on page top) to tell this is NOT English Wiktionary. Similar reminders can be seen at simplewiki (w:WP:AN). What would our editors think about this? MathXplore (talk) 08:23, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- While I understand the call for a reminder about our noticeboard's non-identity, it does flirt with a Borgesian conundrum. If we start defining ourselves by what we are not, shall we also point out that we're not a bulletin for time travellers or a repository for Egyptian cookie recipes? The line between clarity and a labyrinth of non-identities is thin and easily crossed. :-)
- In truth, I don't think the issue is likely to recur. Brett (talk) 10:12, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
- Hello, I just wanted to suggest that we should simply mention that we are not English Wiktionary (just like the simplewiki counterpart says "This is not enwiki"), I had no intent to suggest the creation of a large-scale documentation. At the best of my knowledge, mistaking simplewikt as enwikt is not frequently happening in a long term, but since there were 2 errors in a short period, I thought that this kind of suggestion should be discussed. Thank you for the feedback. MathXplore (talk) 12:47, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
Can we archive 2021-22 AN posts?
[change]I think we can send these to the archives, what do others think about this? MathXplore (talk) 03:11, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
- sure. Brett (talk) 12:25, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
Possible spam-only account, please see their global contributions and w:special:Permalink/9286021#Nigerian/French_Artist_Accounts and w:en:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Tochi_Clement/Archive for editorial background. MathXplore (talk) 08:48, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- Already Done. SPI requested at enwiki, I will report this case to m:SRG if needed. MathXplore (talk) 12:36, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
- (Note) Reported to stewards. MathXplore (talk) 06:26, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
Remove permissions
[change]Hi there, I don't foresee needing the autopatrolled, rollbacker user permissions here. Would someone be able to remove those from my account here on simple Wiktionary? Much appreciated! Best, Maximillion Pegasus (talk) 05:46, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- Our admins are currently active so I guess they can handle it as soon as possible. MathXplore (talk) 06:25, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- Done Brett (talk) 11:44, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for the help! I noticed that only rollbacker was removed; I don't need autopatrolled either, as I don't expect to be creating new pages or monitoring new pages. As a former admin from long ago, still wishing much success for the project, though! Best, Maximillion Pegasus (talk) 17:41, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
- @Brett: Can you handle the request? MathXplore (talk) 09:25, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
Sorry I missed that! Also Done. Brett (talk) 11:56, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the help! Maximillion Pegasus (talk) 14:03, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
Question about our revision deletion policy
[change]This question is open at Wiktionary_talk:Deletion#Where_is_our_revision_deletion_policy?. I'm looking forward to hearing from other admins. Your information is welcome. MathXplore (talk) 12:35, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
Please wait deletion of Hilary of Poitiers
[change]I have requested this biography to be imported into simplewiki, please wait the responses from simplewiki admins. MathXplore (talk) 01:48, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
- Already Done. MathXplore (talk) 01:57, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
Please wait for domino theory
[change]I have requested this encyclopedic entry to be imported to simplewiki, please wait for the responses from simplewiki admins. MathXplore (talk) 12:58, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- Already Done, please let me know if there is anything else to do. MathXplore (talk) 13:56, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
- I've redirected this to domino effect. Minorax (talk) 05:39, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- I didn't notice that page, thank you for redirecting. MathXplore (talk) 08:43, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
- I've redirected this to domino effect. Minorax (talk) 05:39, 6 February 2024 (UTC)
Suggestion to restore Category:Bodily fluids
[change]Per special:redirect/logid/15311, this category was deleted because it is "Too specific....Category:Biology works just fine for these pages". I generally agree with the importance of avoiding overcategorization, but I don't think this is too specific to understand. In addition, we don't have a category quick deletion criteria by specificity, and there seems to be no RFD for this deletion. Categorizing such pages as Category:Biology would be too vague. If there are no objections to restoration, I would like to bring back this category to our project. Please let me know if you have any opinions about this case. Thank you for your attention. MathXplore (talk) 14:13, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
At simplewiki, there is an ongoing RFD suggesting transwiki to our project. If there are no objections, I would like to handle this case. MathXplore (talk) 02:10, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- No objections --Min☠︎rax«¦talk¦» 03:41, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- No objections here and simplewiki, the import is Done. MathXplore (talk) 12:41, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
All IP edits blocked
[change]No IPs have edited here in the last 30 days. It seems that whenever an IP tries to edit, they are prevented by an abuse filter called "vandal". Is this intentional? Maybe it's a good idea, as this filter eliminates almost all vandalism. Maybe we won't need to be communist (talk) 23:47, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
- @Minorax: Can you explain details about this case? MathXplore (talk) 03:03, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
- Disabled, probably some errors in the filter. Will fix before re-enabling. --Min☠︎rax«¦talk¦» 03:13, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
Category:Sex and Category:Sexuality
[change]I wonder if Category:Sex and Category:Sexuality should be merged. They seem to cover the same things. Kk.urban (talk) 03:43, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- (Request of clarification for the suggested action) May I ask how should we merge these categories? Should we merge Category:Sex to Category:Sexuality, or vice versa? Should we leave (category) redirects when merging (I think it is OK to leave redirects, w:en:WP:REDIRECTSARECHEAP). MathXplore (talk) 06:02, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure which title is better, but I think a category redirect is a good idea. Kk.urban (talk) 06:03, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- If I had to choose, I'd think sexuality is a better title. Kk.urban (talk) 06:04, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- At Japanese Wiktionary, I remember that an editor told me that sexuality is not simpler than sex (ja:カテゴリ・トーク:性). As Simple English Wiktionary, we cannot ignore simplicity. In your opinion, how does category:sexuality become better than category:sex, do you mean simplicity or any other factors? MathXplore (talk) 06:14, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think "sex" might be a bit too ambiguous, and "sexuality" has a clearer meaning. However, we could wait for other users to reply. Kk.urban (talk) 06:27, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- I see, some Wikimedians may want category:sex as a category disambiguation rather than an actual category. I fully agree to wait for others, there are no ongoing bulk creations at here, it is important but not urgent. MathXplore (talk) 06:33, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- I think "sex" might be a bit too ambiguous, and "sexuality" has a clearer meaning. However, we could wait for other users to reply. Kk.urban (talk) 06:27, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- At Japanese Wiktionary, I remember that an editor told me that sexuality is not simpler than sex (ja:カテゴリ・トーク:性). As Simple English Wiktionary, we cannot ignore simplicity. In your opinion, how does category:sexuality become better than category:sex, do you mean simplicity or any other factors? MathXplore (talk) 06:14, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the clarification. When suggesting merges, how and how not to merge will be the core of the discussion. In future merge requests, please try to provide clarification from the beginning, this may make things easier. MathXplore (talk) 06:08, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- If I had to choose, I'd think sexuality is a better title. Kk.urban (talk) 06:04, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'm not sure which title is better, but I think a category redirect is a good idea. Kk.urban (talk) 06:03, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- (Possible reason for categorization overlap) In my understanding, sex and sexuality are not the same. English Wiktionary refers to sex for sexual actions, while sexuality refers to sexual preferences. The range of categorization usually follows English Wiktionary (exceptions may exist, let me know if you see anything different). On the other hand, many versions of Wiktionaries add duplicate categories to single entries. This practice aims to make a word list for every level of the categorization scheme. I guess the categorization overlap of category:sex and category:sexuality comes from here. I think words specific to sexuality should go to the category:sexuality without being added to category:sex. However, we are the Simple English Wiktionary, and to make things simple, the category duplication practice must be re-considered in some cases (for example, science vs. pseudoscience, etc.). In the same manner, category merges may need to be discussed, to reduce confusion. What do our editors think about this? MathXplore (talk) 06:31, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- It seems to me that currently the "sex" category is mostly sex acts, while "sexuality" is mostly unused. The former does seem simpler as a word, and broader. The second would have to be limited to human sexuality; I don't think it makes much sense to talk about plant sexuality, for instance. Brett (talk) 09:51, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- I agree to limit Category:Sexuality for human sexuality. en:Category:Sexuality is managed in the same way, and it is easier to follow. Maybe non-human sexuality can be categorized in Category:Reproduction. MathXplore (talk) 11:56, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
- It seems to me that currently the "sex" category is mostly sex acts, while "sexuality" is mostly unused. The former does seem simpler as a word, and broader. The second would have to be limited to human sexuality; I don't think it makes much sense to talk about plant sexuality, for instance. Brett (talk) 09:51, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
Please close open requests at Wiktionary:Requests for permissions/Rollback
[change]There is one request that is open for more than a week, and there are no further comments here. Since I already left a comment, I would like to request other admins to close the request. Thank you for your attention. MathXplore (talk) 07:28, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
- Done. --Min☠︎rax«¦talk¦» 03:19, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
Abuse of the wiktionary page ফকিন্নি
[change]Please look into the user, who has made rude comments and spammed on the page for ফকিন্নি. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/103.7.249.34 , Personally i think this user deserves a ban as they’re clearly not here to help Wiktonary. Smartiphone7 (talk) 23:39, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
- This is the Simple English Wiktionary. In general, we have nothing to do with English Wiktionary editors (except xwiki cases). Please discuss your concerns with English Wiktionary editors. MathXplore (talk) 01:44, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
Request for adding in AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPage
[change]Hi, I am a NLP researcher. I recently had a discussion about bulk edits for Bangla in Beer parlor. Can anyone add me here,so that I can perform the bulk edits using AWB or JWB? Arundhatisgupta (talk) 14:30, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- This is Simple English Wiktionary, we have no advanced permissions in the English Wiktionary. Therefore, we cannot handle your request. MathXplore (talk) 15:10, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- @MathXplore Well, my request is nothing to do with English Wiktionary. I need permission to perform bulk edits for Bengali/Bangla. If you cannot handle my request then who is the right person or where should I contact? Arundhatisgupta (talk) 16:48, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- There is no Bengali/Bangla on this website, only English, so I'm afraid nobody here can help you. Brett (talk) 19:08, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- Please contact English Wiktionary admins. Only they can edit en:Wiktionary:AutoWikiBrowser/CheckPageJSON. You can send a request to the Beer Parlour, etc. MathXplore (talk) 23:30, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
- @MathXplore Well, my request is nothing to do with English Wiktionary. I need permission to perform bulk edits for Bengali/Bangla. If you cannot handle my request then who is the right person or where should I contact? Arundhatisgupta (talk) 16:48, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
This category was moved without redirect (special:redirect/logid/130898), but I noticed that the category is now being re-populated. How can we clear this maintenance category? MathXplore (talk) 08:01, 19 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Note) The category is cleared. MathXplore (talk) 10:59, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
In this thread, there is a suggestion about changing the destination of the newsletters that we receive. Can an uninvolved admin have a look here to see if there is any consensus on the suggested change? MathXplore (talk) 12:42, 21 June 2024 (UTC)
- (Note) Already Done MathXplore (talk) 10:59, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
weeaboo
[change]Can another admin take a look at the page and protect it if necessary. Thanks. --Min☠︎rax«¦talk¦» 23:34, 4 July 2024 (UTC)
- (Note) Re-protected for 3 months. Special:Contributions/2804:D51:4400:0:0:0:0:0/40 is blocked for 1 month but will be extended if issues continue. Please also see en:Special:Contributions/2804:D51:4400:0:0:0:0:0/40, w:en:Special:Contributions/2804:D51:4400:0:0:0:0:0/40, and w:en:Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Luis Sousao (enwiki SPI page for the estimated master account). MathXplore (talk) 11:38, 9 August 2024 (UTC)
More template/module imports from English Wiktionary without attribution and other issues
[change]@Minorax, Brett: This is similar to Special:Diff/504836 because the same user (Special:Contributions/BoldLuis) is also involved here. Wiktionary:Entry layout explained is changed without discussion (special:diff/531898), and more templates/modules have been imported from the English Wiktionary without attribution. Do they have usage here? Should they be deleted as well as before, and should we still allow the user to join this project? MathXplore (talk) 11:08, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- I believe they should. I've already reverted the changes to Entry layout explained. Brett (talk) 11:14, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- I guided the user in joining the discussion and explaining. If there are no further comments, I will delete the templates/modules. MathXplore (talk) 11:32, 6 August 2024 (UTC)
- This may not be relevant, but this user also ran for ArbCom on enwiki in 2022, but didn't answer any of the questions. 67.188.203.40 (talk) 19:56, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for the information. MathXplore (talk) 23:04, 7 August 2024 (UTC)
- All templates/modules are now deleted. The author is notified about the deletion. Based on local behavior and presented xwiki evidence, "only warning" is sent. MathXplore (talk) 10:59, 13 August 2024 (UTC)
Would it be OK to import this dicdef from simplewiki? MathXplore (talk) 00:17, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- (Note) The simplewiki article is discussed at w:Wikipedia:Requests for deletion/Requests/2024/Vato. MathXplore (talk) 00:18, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- Seems a tad out of our scope for being a Spanish slang. --Min☠︎rax«¦talk¦» 07:23, 8 September 2024 (UTC)
Recent template creations by Special:Contributions/153.125.23.17
[change]@Brett, Minorax: I would like to note the templates made by this IP user. For example, Template:Infobox film is unrelated to a dictionary and has already been deleted from the English Wiktionary. I'm not sure if Template:Aka has a use here. Should these be kept or deleted? MathXplore (talk) 11:04, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
- deleted. Thanks! 142.214.120.139 (talk) 12:00, 6 September 2024 (UTC)
Report
[change]special:redirect/logid/134066 - Obvious username issue.-FusionSub (talk) 09:24, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- Done MathXplore (talk) 09:36, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- (Note) When reporting serious username issues, please consider reporting in this way. MathXplore (talk) 09:47, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
- I'll try to remember that, thanks.-FusionSub (talk) 09:54, 10 September 2024 (UTC)
Please block, revdel. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:57, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
Wiktionary:Newsletters archiving
[change]Can Wiktionary:Newsletters be set up to be automatically archived? It's not a problem yet, but eventually it will get too long. Batrachoseps (talk) 18:00, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- And also: we need a way to see the archives of Wiktionary:Requests for deletion. I looked at the history and saw that they were archived, but I don't know where to find the archives. Batrachoseps (talk) 18:02, 23 September 2024 (UTC)
- (Note) RFD archives can be found in Wiktionary:Requests for deletion/archive. MathXplore (talk) 04:43, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- (Note) As explained in the block reason, this account has been blocked with respect to enwiki CU results and Special:Diff/533868. The user is welcome to rejoin as Special:Contributions/Kk.urban, and they can appeal this decision at User_talk:Lights_and_freedom by logging in to this account and explaining the reason for using many accounts in this project. MathXplore (talk) 04:41, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Minorax: Would you like to handle automated archiving for Wiktionary:Newsletters? MathXplore (talk) 04:42, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
- I don't think there's a need to get a bot up to archive this automatically as we're ultimately a small wiki. --Min☠︎rax«¦talk¦» 04:47, 17 October 2024 (UTC)
Please revdel and block. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:26, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
]': —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:06, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
Do we allow this kind of redirect? MathXplore (talk) 14:27, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- Also, should we capitalize Bay horse? If this is a normal noun it should not, but a specific type of horse may be a proper noun. MathXplore (talk) 14:32, 11 October 2024 (UTC)
- Deleted as G7. --Min☠︎rax«¦talk¦» 23:14, 11 October 2024 (UTC)